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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 14:39:42 GMT -5
Yes. I'd have to say it does.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 19:14:43 GMT -5
I love Kanye, so nope!
He's like the Hulk Hogan of music.
Big fans of both regardless of their personal actions or beliefs.
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Post by Brad on Aug 22, 2014 20:04:58 GMT -5
Honestly not really
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 22, 2014 20:09:23 GMT -5
Yeah, it does. I have a very strict policy against those who are bigoted, phony and/or violent.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 22, 2014 20:30:06 GMT -5
I will never buy any Chris Brown CD after what he did to Rhianna
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Post by Jimmy on Aug 22, 2014 20:46:42 GMT -5
but if they identify themselves as Nazi or racist... I won't buy their music but those are all of the best ones
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Post by The Silent Flute (joepetree) on Aug 22, 2014 21:06:56 GMT -5
I Usually Feel a better connection with the artist and there music by there views and opinions as well as points of view expressed in there lyrics , For Me Music is not only for enjoyment but i kinda use it as a therapy and it helps me with my anger and stress and other emotions as well
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Post by Angel Beast on Aug 23, 2014 0:01:05 GMT -5
I will never buy any Chris Brown CD after what he did to Rhianna Yeah I stopped listening to him for the same reason
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 23, 2014 7:58:48 GMT -5
I will never buy any Chris Brown CD after what he did to Rhianna Yeah I stopped listening to him for the same reason Everytime he comes on the radio or MusicChoice channel, I turn him off
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Post by Angel Beast on Aug 23, 2014 10:11:07 GMT -5
Yeah I stopped listening to him for the same reason Everytime he comes on the radio or MusicChoice channel, I turn him off I change the radio station if he comes on. Same with Robin Thicke and his rapey song "Blurred Lines".
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Aug 23, 2014 11:35:44 GMT -5
As a whole? No not really. That is to say I don't mind being aware of their stance on issues. It's when they parade their ideals around like a nutjob trying to be a crusader for or against something they have no business being involved in (ala Neil Young Vs Alberta Oil Sands) that makes no artistic sense that I start to be a little chapped by it.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 23, 2014 12:00:19 GMT -5
Everytime he comes on the radio or MusicChoice channel, I turn him off I change the radio station if he comes on. Same with Robin Thicke and his rapey song "Blurred Lines". Same here with Robin Thicke. I was in my Aunts car when I was in Chicago last month and I was appalled to see a Robin Thicke CD,
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Post by Hitman Bono on Aug 23, 2014 12:17:24 GMT -5
REM in 2004 really tested the waters for me. They were always my second favorite group, after U2 (who famously endorsed Bill Clinton, but stayed mum during the 2004 elections). They played a bunch of benefit concerts and were very outspoken against Bush, but at the end of the day I felt bad for them... It wasn't so much that they wanted Kerry to win (woulda been DISASTROUS!) as much as they wanted Bush to lose, which made them come across as petty little wanna-be's to me. So, in a way I pitied them more for their actions than hate on them for it. I never once had a problem listening to REM then or since.
This is why U2/Bono is so great. Non partisan subjects are so much easier to stomach from artists. I mean, how could someone get mad at Bono for trying to relief third world debt and getting AIDS medication to the poorest countries out there. F*ck, Bono made Jesse Helms cry, spoke with President Bush countless times, and never once picked a side when it came down to "red vs blue" subjects. One of the only times Bono spoke out about the '00's Middle East ordeal was saying that the only problem he had was that we went in without the U.N.'s full support.
That's the difference between hate mongers like Kanye West and people like Bono. Kanye's 2005 comments did more to hurt the effort than to help, while U2 released charity singles and threw their full support behind Music Rising, which brought instruments and things of that matter back to the area.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 23, 2014 12:25:32 GMT -5
REM in 2004 really tested the waters for me. They were always my second favorite group, after U2 (who famously endorsed Bill Clinton, but stayed mum during the 2004 elections). They played a bunch of benefit concerts and were very outspoken against Bush, but at the end of the day I felt bad for them... It wasn't so much that they wanted Kerry to win (woulda been DISASTROUS!) as much as they wanted Bush to lose, which made them come across as petty little wanna-be's to me. So, in a way I pitied them more for their actions than hate on them for it. I never once had a problem listening to REM then or since. This is why U2/Bono is so great. Non partisan subjects are so much easier to stomach from artists. I mean, how could someone get mad at Bono for trying to relief third world debt and getting AIDS medication to the poorest countries out there. F*ck, Bono made Jesse Helms cry, spoke with President Bush countless times, and never once picked a side when it came down to "red vs blue" subjects. One of the only times Bono spoke out about the '00's Middle East ordeal was saying that the only problem he had was that we went in without the U.N.'s full support. That's the difference between hate mongers like Kanye West and people like Bono. Kanye's 2005 comments did more to hurt the effort than to help, while U2 released charity singles and threw their full support behind Music Rising, which brought instruments and things of that matter back to the area. Wasn't Kanye's 2005 comments from that relief aid telethon for Hurricane Katrina?
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Post by Hitman Bono on Aug 23, 2014 12:33:46 GMT -5
REM in 2004 really tested the waters for me. They were always my second favorite group, after U2 (who famously endorsed Bill Clinton, but stayed mum during the 2004 elections). They played a bunch of benefit concerts and were very outspoken against Bush, but at the end of the day I felt bad for them... It wasn't so much that they wanted Kerry to win (woulda been DISASTROUS!) as much as they wanted Bush to lose, which made them come across as petty little wanna-be's to me. So, in a way I pitied them more for their actions than hate on them for it. I never once had a problem listening to REM then or since. This is why U2/Bono is so great. Non partisan subjects are so much easier to stomach from artists. I mean, how could someone get mad at Bono for trying to relief third world debt and getting AIDS medication to the poorest countries out there. F*ck, Bono made Jesse Helms cry, spoke with President Bush countless times, and never once picked a side when it came down to "red vs blue" subjects. One of the only times Bono spoke out about the '00's Middle East ordeal was saying that the only problem he had was that we went in without the U.N.'s full support. That's the difference between hate mongers like Kanye West and people like Bono. Kanye's 2005 comments did more to hurt the effort than to help, while U2 released charity singles and threw their full support behind Music Rising, which brought instruments and things of that matter back to the area. Wasn't Kanye's 2005 comments from that relief aid telethon for Hurricane Katrina? I saw that you replied right after me, so I'm unblocking you... Just please, don't do what you did to me earlier this year and go around harassing me on here ok? I don't wanna get into a whole big thing, but man, back in April you were RUTHLESSLY going around arguing with me about everything I said, then I got confused and went off on another user, which netted me a 2 week ban and a 99% warning that I'm still dealing with. People change JC, and I'm giving you the benefit of unblocking and responding to you here... Anywho! Yes, it was. And Mike Myer's reaction was priceless. Also, as much as I loathe Kanye West, he did have a good sense of humor about it and spoofed the ordeal with Myers on either an episode of SNL or some SNL special. It's worth looking up if you can find it.
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Post by SE4NY on Aug 23, 2014 12:34:09 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 23, 2014 12:37:00 GMT -5
Wasn't Kanye's 2005 comments from that relief aid telethon for Hurricane Katrina? I saw that you replied right after me, so I'm unblocking you... Just please, don't do what you did to me earlier this year and go around harassing me on here ok? I don't wanna get into a whole big thing, but man, back in April you were RUTHLESSLY going around arguing with me about everything I said, then I got confused and went off on another user, which netted me a 2 week ban and a 99% warning that I'm still dealing with. People change JC, and I'm giving you the benefit of unblocking and responding to you here... Anywho! Yes, it was. And Mike Myer's reaction was priceless. Also, as much as I loathe Kanye West, he did have a good sense of humor about it and spoofed the ordeal with Myers on either an episode of SNL or some SNL special. It's worth looking up if you can find it. I remember seeing that clip where Kanye says George W. Bush doesn't care about Black people on YouTube. I like how South Park made fun of Kanye West's ego, they pretty much nailed it head on
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Aug 23, 2014 12:39:50 GMT -5
I try to keep things separate, and usually can, though there have been some that have frustrated me so much that I can't. Racism and antigay beliefs being the biggest deal breakers. Even then I can often keep it separate as long as it's not something they go after. Like if someone has made one stupid statement. But if they harp on it (or worse, donate money to discriminatory causes), then that ruins it. Kevin Sorbo has been sticking his foot in it lately, so hopefully I can still enjoy Hercules, though I don't watch it much these days anyway. I always liked Xena more
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 23, 2014 13:09:43 GMT -5
Not usually, no. Chick-Fil-A and Orson Scott Card are two perfect examples. I can separate the man from the art every single time. It's sort of like not caring about a wrestler/athlete/actor being an assh*le in real life. I mean look at Chris Benoit too. I don't ever forget what Benoit did, but I can still watch his matches and enjoy them. I don't know, that's just how I am.
I will say, that if I already don't like someone, them doing something stupid is just fuel to the fire.
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Post by Angel Beast on Aug 23, 2014 14:13:42 GMT -5
Not usually, no. Chick-Fil-A and Orson Scott Card are two perfect examples. I can separate the man from the art every single time. It's sort of like not caring about a wrestler/athlete/actor being an assh*le in real life. I mean look at Chris Benoit too. I don't ever forget what Benoit did, but I can still watch his matches and enjoy them. I don't know, that's just how I am. I will say, that if I already don't like someone, them doing something stupid is just fuel to the fire. I'll watch a Beniot match if I'm watching a full show on the network but I won't seek his matches out like I do for others.
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