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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 9:08:43 GMT -5
people are expecting an awful lot from Civil War.....I expect the Civil War to be no more than a falling out between IM and Cap......and I'm 100% ok with that. If they wanna put Spidey in here that's ok with me(I want Spidey in the MCU BADLY) but they better get the story ironed out straight. I honestly think they have to tread very carefully if Spidey is introduced in the MCU, if it's a new one, then he's just going to be there for no reason, with no background, and the SM franchise in such a mess right now with Garfield. The only way to even go is to bring in Tobey... I agree they have to tread carefully. However I don't want Tobey back. Loved the guy as Spidey but his time has passed in this role I'm afraid.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Dec 18, 2014 9:19:59 GMT -5
people are expecting an awful lot from Civil War.....I expect the Civil War to be no more than a falling out between IM and Cap......and I'm 100% ok with that. If they wanna put Spidey in here that's ok with me(I want Spidey in the MCU BADLY) but they better get the story ironed out straight. Honestly i could see some combo of Widow/Hulk/Hawkeye in there no doubt. Maybe even SW and QS.
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Post by Word™ on Dec 18, 2014 9:38:15 GMT -5
I would geek out for Tobey. It would be so easy to connect him to the MCU.. Make him some sort of forgotten legend that disappeared after Harry died, then he starts showing up again during Civil War because of ensuing chaos.. Then make Spider-Man 4 with Sam Raimi. Then make Spidey only an Avengers character. I can dream, I can wish.. But this won't happen. They'd be using an established universe outside of MCU that would hinder future Spider-Man solo movies. They wouldn't be able to use Green Goblin, Venom, Doc Ock, Gwen Stacey, Harry Osbourne. ! Tobey coming back would be so epic tho!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 9:39:17 GMT -5
people are expecting an awful lot from Civil War.....I expect the Civil War to be no more than a falling out between IM and Cap......and I'm 100% ok with that. If they wanna put Spidey in here that's ok with me(I want Spidey in the MCU BADLY) but they better get the story ironed out straight. Honestly i could see some combo of Widow/Hulk/Hawkeye in there no doubt. Maybe even SW and QS. I could see Hawkeye and Widow in there too man(on opposite sides).....it makes sense given their government type roles. And perhaps Falcon. However they need to be careful about overloading this one. QS, SW & Hulk I can do without here to be honest. If they are in here too they may as well call it Avengers 3.....I also reckon there is an internal policy withing MS/Disney to save Hulk for Avengers movies.....and IMO? its a smart policy. The Russo's proved themselves MORE than capable with TWS but I don't want them or Disney overloading this picture and getting away from the story since it seems to be pivotal to the evolution of the MCU.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Dec 18, 2014 9:41:18 GMT -5
Honestly i could see some combo of Widow/Hulk/Hawkeye in there no doubt. Maybe even SW and QS. I could see Hawkeye and Widow in there too man(on opposite sides).....it makes sense given their government type roles. And perhaps Falcon. However they need to be careful about overloading this one. QS, SW & Hulk I can do without here to be honest. If they are in here too they may as well call it Avengers 3.....I also reckon there is an internal policy withing MS/Disney to save Hulk for Avengers movies.....and IMO? its a smart policy. The Russo's proved themselves MORE than capable with TWS but I don't want them or Disney overloading this picture and getting away from the story since it seems to be pivotal to the evolution of the MCU. Forgot about Falcon. We need more of him in general and i agree with you about Hulk.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 9:42:29 GMT -5
I would geek out for Tobey. It would be so easy to connect him to the MCU.. Make him some sort of forgotten legend that disappeared after Harry died, then he starts showing up again during Civil War because of ensuing chaos.. Then make Spider-Man 4 with Sam Raimi. Then make Spidey only an Avengers character. I can dream, I can wish.. But this won't happen. They'd be using an established universe outside of MCU that would hinder future Spider-Man solo movies. They wouldn't be able to use Green Goblin, Venom, Doc Ock, Gwen Stacey, Harry Osbourne. ! Tobey coming back would be so epic tho! I would prefer Raimi be finished with Spidey. His sympathetic villain crutch got to be a real block for me. A hero is only as good as his villains and Raimi's versions of Spidey's rogues were wishy washy at best. He turned Doc Ock into basically a nice guy after all.....that hurt Spider Man 2 for me then and continues to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 9:44:12 GMT -5
I could see Hawkeye and Widow in there too man(on opposite sides).....it makes sense given their government type roles. And perhaps Falcon. However they need to be careful about overloading this one. QS, SW & Hulk I can do without here to be honest. If they are in here too they may as well call it Avengers 3.....I also reckon there is an internal policy withing MS/Disney to save Hulk for Avengers movies.....and IMO? its a smart policy. The Russo's proved themselves MORE than capable with TWS but I don't want them or Disney overloading this picture and getting away from the story since it seems to be pivotal to the evolution of the MCU. Forgot about Falcon. We need more of him in general and i agree with you about Hulk. I see it through the eyes of the(non geek) lads I work with......they are all marking like f*ck for A2 because they get to see the Hulk "smash" again......yknow what I mean?
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Post by marino13 on Dec 18, 2014 10:15:44 GMT -5
I'm perfectly okay with Logan Lerman playing Spider Man. I loved Garfield, but if he has to be sacrificed to get Spidey back to Marvel, then so be it. But unlike others I think Marvel should do a origin story first. Even an abbreviated one would suffice. Cause IMO even though the other Spider Man movies have been good, none have been perfect. We need to get Spider Man back to the top of the Marvel food chain.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 10:19:44 GMT -5
I would geek out for Tobey. It would be so easy to connect him to the MCU.. Make him some sort of forgotten legend that disappeared after Harry died, then he starts showing up again during Civil War because of ensuing chaos.. Then make Spider-Man 4 with Sam Raimi. Then make Spidey only an Avengers character. I can dream, I can wish.. But this won't happen. They'd be using an established universe outside of MCU that would hinder future Spider-Man solo movies. They wouldn't be able to use Green Goblin, Venom, Doc Ock, Gwen Stacey, Harry Osbourne. ! Tobey coming back would be so epic tho! I would prefer Raimi be finished with Spidey. His sympathetic villain crutch got to be a real block for me. A hero is only as good as his villains and Raimi's versions of Spidey's rogues were wishy washy at best. He turned Doc Ock into basically a nice guy after all.....that hurt Spider Man 2 for me then and continues to do so. That could be why I prefer Spidey 1 to Spidey 2. Some of Spidey's villains aren't pure evil (like Lizard and Eddie Brock), but he didn't need to put that spin on Doc Ock or Sandman. The films are still amazing, and leaps and bounds better than the ASM films, and I'd welcome Tobey back, he'd fit really well with Evans, Downey and the rest of the cast.
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Post by Word™ on Dec 18, 2014 11:15:00 GMT -5
I would geek out for Tobey. It would be so easy to connect him to the MCU.. Make him some sort of forgotten legend that disappeared after Harry died, then he starts showing up again during Civil War because of ensuing chaos.. Then make Spider-Man 4 with Sam Raimi. Then make Spidey only an Avengers character. I can dream, I can wish.. But this won't happen. They'd be using an established universe outside of MCU that would hinder future Spider-Man solo movies. They wouldn't be able to use Green Goblin, Venom, Doc Ock, Gwen Stacey, Harry Osbourne. ! Tobey coming back would be so epic tho! I would prefer Raimi be finished with Spidey. His sympathetic villain crutch got to be a real block for me. A hero is only as good as his villains and Raimi's versions of Spidey's rogues were wishy washy at best. He turned Doc Ock into basically a nice guy after all.....that hurt Spider Man 2 for me then and continues to do so. I enjoyed Doc Ock in Spider-Man 2.. And I was very excited to see what Spider-Man 3 would have been like before the studio pissed Raimi off. He clearly made Spider 3 as a big " you" to Sony.. I refuse to watch it ever again. Raimi finished the trilogy but he didn't get to finish it the way he envisioned it. Spider-Man 3 is like X3 for me.. They feel inferior, talking about them, seeing their DVD covers.. It all looks and feels like an inferior product.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Dec 18, 2014 11:30:54 GMT -5
If this whole hacking thing leaves Sony bankrupt will Spidey go back to MS? I read somewhere that Marvel has the option of suing Sony for mishandling their property or something like that.. Because even though Sony owns the rights, they do not own Spider-Man.. It's still 100% a Marvel property, and if Sony is making decisions or has had something happen that is not only painting Sony in a bad light, but is detrimental to the existence of the Spider-Man brand.. They can take them straight to court, and win. But I'm assuming that's last straw type scenario. MCU probably wants to handle this in a civilized fashion before they call in the dogs.. Sony is getting ready to lose a TON of money.. I'm anxious to see how this plays out over the next month or so. I do believe the Spider-Man rights will go back to Marvel in 2015. Sounds like they have a good case against FOX and the upcoming F4 movie. Mishandling that franchise is an under-statement. Anyway, I hope you're right about Spidey.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 12:26:40 GMT -5
I read somewhere that Marvel has the option of suing Sony for mishandling their property or something like that.. Because even though Sony owns the rights, they do not own Spider-Man.. It's still 100% a Marvel property, and if Sony is making decisions or has had something happen that is not only painting Sony in a bad light, but is detrimental to the existence of the Spider-Man brand.. They can take them straight to court, and win. But I'm assuming that's last straw type scenario. MCU probably wants to handle this in a civilized fashion before they call in the dogs.. Sony is getting ready to lose a TON of money.. I'm anxious to see how this plays out over the next month or so. I do believe the Spider-Man rights will go back to Marvel in 2015. Sounds like they have a good case against FOX and the upcoming F4 movie. . Sounds like......I have often wondered would Marvel be able to block Fox from mutilating their property with some legal finagling. I mean this "Doom" they have isn't Dr Doom at all.....and that's only the start of it.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Dec 18, 2014 13:20:08 GMT -5
Sounds like they have a good case against FOX and the upcoming F4 movie. . Sounds like......I have often wondered would Marvel be able to block Fox from mutilating their property with some legal finagling. I mean this "Doom" they have isn't Dr Doom at all.....and that's only the start of it. Yeah, they gotta do something. Is it true they won't be producing any F4 material in the future because of this movie? That's the wrong way to go about it, they need to fight to get their property back. I mean first FOX butchered Galactus, but now they're straight up slaughtering the whole F4 franchise with the new movie. Also I feel like Jamie Bell deserves to be punched in the face for accepting the role for the Thing. The whole casting choice sucks but his is the absolute worst. Whoever chose him to play the role really and truly does deserve to get fired. I'll stop now, every time go into a rant over this piece of sh* t I get the strongest urge to punch babies and kick puppies.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 13:39:41 GMT -5
I would prefer Raimi be finished with Spidey. His sympathetic villain crutch got to be a real block for me. A hero is only as good as his villains and Raimi's versions of Spidey's rogues were wishy washy at best. He turned Doc Ock into basically a nice guy after all.....that hurt Spider Man 2 for me then and continues to do so. I enjoyed Doc Ock in Spider-Man 2.. And I was very excited to see what Spider-Man 3 would have been like before the studio pissed Raimi off. He clearly made Spider 3 as a big " you" to Sony.. I refuse to watch it ever again. Raimi finished the trilogy but he didn't get to finish it the way he envisioned it. Spider-Man 3 is like X3 for me.. They feel inferior, talking about them, seeing their DVD covers.. It all looks and feels like an inferior product. Spiderman 3, although no where near as good as the first two, I don't consider it to be as bad as some of the X-Men films for example, or as bad the ASM film I saw (first one). It could have been handled a lot better, but it's not bad. It's mediocre, I think because the first two were A* films, it makes the 3rd seem worse than it really is. There are certain films I feel are unjustly hated because it's cool to do so. Spiderman 3, Ghostbusters 2 and the SW prequels are perfect examples. I'd kill to get Tobey as Spiderman, and Wesley as Blade into the MCU.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 13:58:33 GMT -5
Snipes looked great in Expendables 3 but I doubt he will be Blade again(I wouldn't object).....I often wonder what MS/Disney will do with Blade & GR now that they have the rights back.....questions I feel will go a long way to be answered when Derrickson opens the door to "Marvel Mystic" with Dr Strange
Cage and his "attempts" @ GR were f*cking dreadful. a talented director with some age appropriate casting(looking straight at you Cage) could do some serious damage here.
Ryan Kwanten for Johnny Blaze maybe?
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Post by marino13 on Dec 18, 2014 14:59:10 GMT -5
James Gunn just released this image...
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Dec 18, 2014 15:50:34 GMT -5
I'd mark the out if Quill's Dad was Kevin Bacon.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 15:55:29 GMT -5
I'd mark the out if Quill's Dad was Kevin Bacon.
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Post by el torro on Dec 22, 2014 14:00:07 GMT -5
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Post by RAC on Dec 22, 2014 16:13:27 GMT -5
Mike Colter officially cast as Luke Cage, we'll get 5-6 episodes of Cage in Jessica Jones. They'll start announcing castings and start filming early next year.
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