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Post by iamkrang on Sept 12, 2014 9:47:40 GMT -5
Probaby means next to nothing storyline was, but thought it would be interesting to note that John Cena and Seth Rollins are going to start working together one-on-one on the house show circuit in street fights post Night of Champions.
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 12, 2014 10:01:23 GMT -5
... I think it means plenty. We are going to see a cash-in attempt soon and I truly believe Brock is going to be off TV no later than by HIAC. I'm expecting Cena to find a way to win the title against Brock at HIAC and then for Rollins to cash-in as soon as it's over, potentially with Ambrose and Reigns watching from the outside of the Cell. At which point, we'll see Rollins vs Cena over the title. This is likely the warm-up act to that match if you ask me. Plus, Rollins is the top full-time heel and Cena is the top babyface. With no title, it makes sense to give the house show fans that match. I've been saying this for months though and I think we're going to see Rollins take the title for at least a couple of months here during the down part of the year with the Authority around him. This could come as quickly as NOCs but I agree that Brock vs Cena in HIAC is something that WWE won't pass up if it's possible.
To me, the smart business is to have Reigns take the title from Rollins, positioning two new young stars in the WWE Title match at Mania. If we get Rock vs Brock as a main attraction match, then it takes the pressure off the young guys, and it's a spot where they can be elevated, so a youth movement version of what they did at WM28. I'm in favor of inserting Ambrose into that match as well, as I think the triple threat with the Shield members is a money idea. Cena can essentially do anything at Mania and it's a main attraction match, so I don't think it's a big deal where he lands come Mania time.
Give me:
Brock vs Rock
Ambrose vs Rollins(c) vs Reigns - WWE Title
Cena vs Rusev (USA Theme)
Sting vs Taker
Pretty damn good Mania card if you ask me. Just my two cents.
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Post by Chip on Sept 12, 2014 10:01:33 GMT -5
I would actually LOVE to see a Rollins/Cena feud over the WWE title Cena has proven time and time again he can absolutely "go" with guys like Rollins. And with Rollins as the Authority guy, Cena as the company guy....the storytelling is there for the taking. But instead we get a part timer who's not on the weekly show (yet thats supposed to make each time he IS there more exciting....yah.) and he's just going to be fed main eventers until Roman Reigns.  this. |
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Post by marino13 on Sept 12, 2014 10:23:14 GMT -5
Maybe at NOC, Cena hits Lesnar with a high impact move but before he can make the pin, Rollins cashes in on Lesnar mid match? Lesnar leaves, & Cena goes for revenge?
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 12, 2014 10:58:29 GMT -5
Maybe at NOC, Cena hits Lesnar with a high impact move but before he can make the pin, Rollins cashes in on Lesnar mid match? Lesnar leaves, & Cena goes for revenge? Mm, I'm not really seeing where it makes sense for Rollins to cash-in on Lesnar. The Authority, mainly HHH, made it clear they support Lesnar being champion. Rollins is plan B. It only makes sense to utilize plan B when plan A fails. Plus, the heat comes for Rollins when he cashes in on a babyface. If Rollins is going to become champion out of a Lesnar vs Cena match, I just see Brock smashing Cena after a match where he drops the title to Cena. Brock is a mercenary so him losing the title is secondary, even irrelevant, to him after making money and inflicting pain. The Authority would have the title if Rollins wins, and thus Brock accomplished what he was paid to do as a mercenary, keep the title from Cena. Just kind of how I see it. |
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Sept 12, 2014 11:01:48 GMT -5
I don't see Rollins cashing in until Reigns has the belt.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 11:12:10 GMT -5
yippee another young and upcoming talent.With momentum feuding with Cena because that worked out well for. Bray Wyatt, Wade Barret, Ryback, Doliph Ziggler, and Damien Sandow.
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 12, 2014 11:22:22 GMT -5
I don't see Rollins cashing in until Reigns has the belt. That doesn't make sense to me either. That only gives Rollins about a 3 month window of opportunity to actually cash-in for the title. Why, if "we" truly believe Reigns is the next number one guy, would you cut off his first title run prematurely just to squeeze in a Rollins cash-in? Unless of course Rollins is going to cash-in against Reigns and fail but then you hurt having made both stars at the same time. This is Rollins' chance to be champion. There is absolutely no pressure on the champion from HIAC to Royal Rumble. It's the best time to do it, by a mile, imo. If they are committed to making Reigns, which they seem to be, he needs to be champion from at least Mania to SummerSlam to give it a real shot, which is the same thing I said for Daniel Bryan around Mania 30. If you want someone to be the man, you have to hand them the ball and let them run. |
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Post by becks007 on Sept 12, 2014 11:32:06 GMT -5
It has been confirmed that it will be Rollins vs Cena in a street fight match in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia on October 10th and 11th... And I will be there!
Something tells me either one of them will be champion.. A Rollin's cash in at NOC on Cena is pretty possible....
My scenario for NOC: Cena beats Brock. Cena is champion but is pretty much weak after the match... Seth comes out, cashes in his briefcase, pins Cena and wins the title. Seth is off to Malaysia as champion and will clash with Cena in a street fight for the title which in some way, Seth will win...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 11:41:34 GMT -5
Poor Rollins.
And I like Cena.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Sept 12, 2014 11:45:44 GMT -5
... I think it means plenty. We are going to see a cash-in attempt soon and I truly believe Brock is going to be off TV no later than by HIAC. I'm expecting Cena to find a way to win the title against Brock at HIAC and then for Rollins to cash-in as soon as it's over, potentially with Ambrose and Reigns watching from the outside of the Cell. At which point, we'll see Rollins vs Cena over the title. This is likely the warm-up act to that match if you ask me. Plus, Rollins is the top full-time heel and Cena is the top babyface. With no title, it makes sense to give the house show fans that match. I've been saying this for months though and I think we're going to see Rollins take the title for at least a couple of months here during the down part of the year with the Authority around him. This could come as quickly as NOCs but I agree that Brock vs Cena in HIAC is something that WWE won't pass up if it's possible. To me, the smart business is to have Reigns take the title from Rollins, positioning two new young stars in the WWE Title match at Mania. If we get Rock vs Brock as a main attraction match, then it takes the pressure off the young guys, and it's a spot where they can be elevated, so a youth movement version of what they did at WM28. I'm in favor of inserting Ambrose into that match as well, as I think the triple threat with the Shield members is a money idea. Cena can essentially do anything at Mania and it's a main attraction match, so I don't think it's a big deal where he lands come Mania time. Give me: Brock vs Rock Ambrose vs Rollins(c) vs Reigns - WWE Title Cena vs Rusev (USA Theme) Sting vs Taker Pretty damn good Mania card if you ask me. Just my two cents. I don't need Rock vs. Lesnar again. That title match, no chance in hell. I like it, but no way it'll happen. Cena vs. Rusev? Blegh. Sting vs. Undertaker? That's probably the most likely match on your card. |
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Post by marino13 on Sept 12, 2014 11:47:05 GMT -5
Maybe at NOC, Cena hits Lesnar with a high impact move but before he can make the pin, Rollins cashes in on Lesnar mid match? Lesnar leaves, & Cena goes for revenge? Mm, I'm not really seeing where it makes sense for Rollins to cash-in on Lesnar. The Authority, mainly HHH, made it clear they support Lesnar being champion. Rollins is plan B. It only makes sense to utilize plan B when plan A fails. Plus, the heat comes for Rollins when he cashes in on a babyface. If Rollins is going to become champion out of a Lesnar vs Cena match, I just see Brock smashing Cena after a match where he drops the title to Cena. Brock is a mercenary so him losing the title is secondary, even irrelevant, to him after making money and inflicting pain. The Authority would have the title if Rollins wins, and thus Brock accomplished what he was paid to do as a mercenary, keep the title from Cena. Just kind of how I see it. Fair enough. |
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 12, 2014 11:49:57 GMT -5
... I think it means plenty. We are going to see a cash-in attempt soon and I truly believe Brock is going to be off TV no later than by HIAC. I'm expecting Cena to find a way to win the title against Brock at HIAC and then for Rollins to cash-in as soon as it's over, potentially with Ambrose and Reigns watching from the outside of the Cell. At which point, we'll see Rollins vs Cena over the title. This is likely the warm-up act to that match if you ask me. Plus, Rollins is the top full-time heel and Cena is the top babyface. With no title, it makes sense to give the house show fans that match. I've been saying this for months though and I think we're going to see Rollins take the title for at least a couple of months here during the down part of the year with the Authority around him. This could come as quickly as NOCs but I agree that Brock vs Cena in HIAC is something that WWE won't pass up if it's possible. To me, the smart business is to have Reigns take the title from Rollins, positioning two new young stars in the WWE Title match at Mania. If we get Rock vs Brock as a main attraction match, then it takes the pressure off the young guys, and it's a spot where they can be elevated, so a youth movement version of what they did at WM28. I'm in favor of inserting Ambrose into that match as well, as I think the triple threat with the Shield members is a money idea. Cena can essentially do anything at Mania and it's a main attraction match, so I don't think it's a big deal where he lands come Mania time. Give me: Brock vs Rock Ambrose vs Rollins(c) vs Reigns - WWE Title Cena vs Rusev (USA Theme) Sting vs Taker Pretty damn good Mania card if you ask me. Just my two cents. That title match, no chance in hell. I like it, but no way it'll happen. Cena vs. Rusev? Blegh. Sting vs. Undertaker? That's probably the most likely match on your card. Yeah, except WWE likes money and it's seemingly the biggest possible match they have available to them right now. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean they aren't going to do it. I didn't want to see Cena vs Rock twice but that didn't stop it from happening. |
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Sept 12, 2014 12:18:04 GMT -5
I don't see Rollins cashing in until Reigns has the belt. That doesn't make sense to me either. That only gives Rollins about a 3 month window of opportunity to actually cash-in for the title. Why, if "we" truly believe Reigns is the next number one guy, would you cut off his first title run prematurely just to squeeze in a Rollins cash-in? Unless of course Rollins is going to cash-in against Reigns and fail but then you hurt having made both stars at the same time. This is Rollins' chance to be champion. There is absolutely no pressure on the champion from HIAC to Royal Rumble. It's the best time to do it, by a mile, imo. If they are committed to making Reigns, which they seem to be, he needs to be champion from at least Mania to SummerSlam to give it a real shot, which is the same thing I said for Daniel Bryan around Mania 30. If you want someone to be the man, you have to hand them the ball and let them run. Austin's first few title reigns were only 3 months long. It'd be sort like if Bryan vs the Authority continue (minus Kane) as let's be honest, Reigns is going to have an easier time in the hunt than afterward. |
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Post by Evil Abed on Sept 12, 2014 12:35:29 GMT -5
I don't see Rollins cashing in until Reigns has the belt. And I don't think he should until then tbh. Rollins has the best MITB reign going since Edge imo. Rollins shouldn't cash in just to shake things up, he should cash in on Reigns a few months after Mania and let the Shield fight over the title next Summer. Give me: Brock vs Rock Ambrose vs Rollins(c) vs Reigns - WWE Title Cena vs Rusev (USA Theme) Sting vs Taker Pretty damn good Mania card if you ask me. Just my two cents. Yea I gotta be honest not really feeling your card. I seriously doubt Rollins/Ambrose will be in the title picture of the main event of Mania by next March. Not that they don't deserve it, I just don't see it happening. Brock vs. Rock looks great on paper for everyone but I think it would be an absolute suckfest of a match. I seriously hope they don't try to bring back that magic from 2002. They tried to do it with Taker/Brock and look what that got us at Wrestlemania 30. Cena vs. Rusev would be great for a Survivor Series match or a C level PPV. I don't think Rusev deserves to be thrust that quickly into the spotlight though to take on Cena at Mania 31. Sting vs. Taker as crazy as it sounds is probably the most realistic match on your card, from a fans perspective since its the match everyone has been dying to see for decades. |
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Post by Yambag Jones on Sept 12, 2014 13:03:19 GMT -5
I'm fully expecting that towards the end of Cena/Brock III at NoC, both men will be down and Rollins will cash in.
Knowing he'd likely hold the title until WM31 if he successfully cashes in, I'd be fine with Cena vs Rollins for two-three months.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 12, 2014 13:19:24 GMT -5
I guess they're testing Cena/Rollins in the house shows to see how a possible feud between the two will work out. I don't see (or really want in all honesty) Rollins cashing in on either Cena or Lesnar cause I don't see Cena going near that title until possibly after Wrestlemania and why would Rollins cash in on Lesnar? I know he could always cash in after the match, but realistically, Rollins will still get his ass kicked by Lesnar even after Lesnar fought Cena in an even one on one match and even if they use the excuse of Lesnar not being at 100% during the cash in, I believe it would still make Lesnar weak being beat by Rollins. At least if he faces Reigns, WWE would have pushed Reigns as someone who could finally take down Lesnar. I honestly don't see Rollins even winning the title via cash in. I see him being the third person to unsuccessfully cash in the briefcase, but I see some of kind of way, Rollins doesn't lose the cash in cleanly. Not sure how, but I don't see Rollins losing clean like Sandow.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 12, 2014 13:42:22 GMT -5
It could mean something or it could mean nothing. WWE has four top heels: Kane, Orton, Rollins and Wyatt. And Cena has already done a million matches on the road against the three of them that aren't Rollins. So it might indicate a title change, or it might just be that it's the only fresh singles live event main that they have, regardless of the title. Give me: Brock vs Rock Ambrose vs Rollins(c) vs Reigns - WWE Title Cena vs Rusev (USA Theme) Sting vs Taker Pretty damn good Mania card if you ask me. Just my two cents. I could see this card happening, and I'd love to see it. But of course it depends on The Rock, because if he's not wrestling, then what does Brock do? And while the Shield triple threat could be great, I think it'd be better placed main-eventing Extreme Rules, Payback etc after WrestleMania... Mania itself should probably have Reigns winning the title one on one from a really hated bad guy -- either Batista or Lesnar, who tends to get fairly babyface reactions now but if he squashed Bryan at the Rumble or something, that might not be the case. Reigns winning the title from Cena is another option for Mania, but I'd prefer to hold that one off and have Reigns defend it against Cena at SummerSlam.... Although maybe Reigns should defend it against Lesnar at SummerSlam, as the "look at what happened to the guy who defended it against me this time last year" story is easily told. They have quite a few solid options for Mania. |
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Post by rustyy on Sept 12, 2014 13:51:43 GMT -5
Please, I don't even like Rollins that much but keep him away from that cancer.
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 12, 2014 15:18:29 GMT -5
It could mean something or it could mean nothing. WWE has four top heels: Kane, Orton, Rollins and Wyatt. And Cena has already done a million matches on the road against the three of them that aren't Rollins. So it might indicate a title change, or it might just be that it's the only fresh singles live event main that they have, regardless of the title. Give me: Brock vs Rock Ambrose vs Rollins(c) vs Reigns - WWE Title Cena vs Rusev (USA Theme) Sting vs Taker Pretty damn good Mania card if you ask me. Just my two cents. I could see this card happening, and I'd love to see it. But of course it depends on The Rock, because if he's not wrestling, then what does Brock do? And while the Shield triple threat could be great, I think it'd be better placed main-eventing Extreme Rules, Payback etc after WrestleMania... Mania itself should probably have Reigns winning the title one on one from a really hated bad guy -- either Batista or Lesnar, who tends to get fairly babyface reactions now but if he squashed Bryan at the Rumble or something, that might not be the case. Reigns winning the title from Cena is another option for Mania, but I'd prefer to hold that one off and have Reigns defend it against Cena at SummerSlam.... Although maybe Reigns should defend it against Lesnar at SummerSlam, as the "look at what happened to the guy who defended it against me this time last year" story is easily told. They have quite a few solid options for Mania. Batista to me is a total wildcard. I could see that going any number of ways. It's a weird spot where it makes sense to have him be heel against a babyface Reigns, but with Guardians will he be able to come back heel and have it work? Probably but I still think people will be inclined to cheer. Plus, I think he kind of left as a babyface, of sorts, when he walked out on Evolution. He makes sense to me as someone who could be babyface and take the title from Rollins, but then it makes sense for him to turn around and be heel heading into Mania haha. So I'm definitely interested to see what they do when he returns. |
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