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Post by rustyy on Sept 23, 2014 16:46:59 GMT -5
If said psychopath is a big guy than yeah, you book him unstoppable. Ambrose is not a big guy and Austin was not booked like a psychopath (though I'm sure you'll try to argue he was). Ambrose doesn't need to lay out Rollins constantly. The storyline is that he's got Rollins' number but the Authority is always there to bail Rollins out. This way, when Ambrose finally gets a fair shot at Rollins, he'll win and prove that he's the better man. It's like booking 101 Except after it's over Ambrose has no where to go but down. Rollins has MitB so he's a guaranteed world champ. Wish I could say the same about Dean.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 23, 2014 16:49:29 GMT -5
Except after it's over Ambrose has no where to go but down. Rollins has MitB so he's a guaranteed world champ. Wish I could say the same about Dean. Really? There is literally no where higher that he can go?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 16:52:56 GMT -5
There are plenty of places he can go from here. If you want specific examples, then you have to wait until the storyline actually plays out and go from there. With a guy like Ambrose, the sky is the limit.
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Post by rustyy on Sept 23, 2014 16:53:45 GMT -5
Except after it's over Ambrose has no where to go but down. Rollins has MitB so he's a guaranteed world champ. Wish I could say the same about Dean. Really? There is literally no where higher that he can go? With the way he's booked now, losing all the time, no. He can't beat Cena, no Punk, no Bryan, no way he goes near Lesnar, and no way he goes near Roman. So yeah, down. Same thing that happened to Wyatt.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 16:54:23 GMT -5
But what if you don't care about the storyline and just want your favourites to win all the time otherwise they're being buried? What then? ReignsWinsLOL
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 16:56:10 GMT -5
Really? There is literally no where higher that he can go? With the way he's booked now, losing all the time, no. He can't beat Cena, no Punk, no Bryan, no way he goes near Lesnar, and no way he goes near Roman. So yeah, down. Same thing that happened to Wyatt. Fun fact: Ambrose hasn't been pinned clean since July, and early June before that. So "losing all the time" is wrong. EDIT: He's lost 5 times via pinfall this year. What a jobber.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 23, 2014 17:02:02 GMT -5
With the way he's booked now, losing all the time, no. He can't beat Cena, no Punk, no Bryan, no way he goes near Lesnar, and no way he goes near Roman. So yeah, down. Same thing that happened to Wyatt. Fun fact: Ambrose hasn't been pinned clean since July, and early June before that. So "losing all the time" is wrong. EDIT: He's lost 5 times via pinfall this year. What a jobber. This.
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Post by rustyy on Sept 23, 2014 17:02:31 GMT -5
With the way he's booked now, losing all the time, no. He can't beat Cena, no Punk, no Bryan, no way he goes near Lesnar, and no way he goes near Roman. So yeah, down. Same thing that happened to Wyatt. Fun fact: Ambrose hasn't been pinned clean since July, and early June before that. So "losing all the time" is wrong. EDIT: He's lost 5 times via pinfall this year. What a jobber. A DQ is still a loss. Fun fact. And you didn't prove me wrong about no where to go but down.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 17:02:44 GMT -5
With the way he's booked now, losing all the time, no. He can't beat Cena, no Punk, no Bryan, no way he goes near Lesnar, and no way he goes near Roman. So yeah, down. Same thing that happened to Wyatt. Fun fact: Ambrose hasn't been pinned clean since July, and early June before that. So "losing all the time" is wrong. EDIT: He's lost 5 times via pinfall this year. What a jobber. WOW MAN. HEY TRIPLE H YOU FOR HAVING HIM LOSE FIVE MATCHES WHEN YOU HAVEN'T LOST FIVE MATCHES IN THE LAST DECADE. WAIT, TRIPLE H ISN'T BOOKING? HEY VINCE, YOU FOR NOT HAVING DEAN AMBROSE WIN EVERY MATCH OVER EVERYONE. HE SHOULD BE SQUASHING ROMAN REIGNS WHILE CO-HOLDING EVERY TITLE WITH WADE BARRETT AND BRAY WYATT THIS IS WHY THE WWE NETWORK ONLY HAS LIKE 670,000 SUBSCRIBERS YOU SHOULD TOTALLY LISTEN TO ME I KNOW BEST. AMBROSE + ZIGGLER + IRON MAN MATCH = WM 31 MAIN EVENT BOOK IT EVEN THOUGH IF ONE OF THEM LOSES THEY'RE BURIED/A JOBBER.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 17:06:17 GMT -5
Fun fact: Ambrose hasn't been pinned clean since July, and early June before that. So "losing all the time" is wrong. EDIT: He's lost 5 times via pinfall this year. What a jobber. A DQ is still a loss. Fun fact. And you didn't prove me wrong about no where to go but down. You don't seem to understand how momentum works in wrestling, and yes, I will tell you that you don't understand that. A DQ loss, like when Ambrose hit Cesaro with a chair, helps build his character and momentum. The entire storyline is based around Ambrose and Rollins interfering in each other's matches and DQ finishes are left and right. Jobbers don't lose by DQ, they lose clean, they lose often. Why do I have to prove there's a place to go from here? The storyline is STILL going on. Wanna know where it's gonna go? Wait for this one to finish.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Sept 23, 2014 17:08:36 GMT -5
EDIT: He's lost 5 times via pinfall this year. What a jobber. Yeah but he should have lost 0 times by any means this year. 5 pinfall losses, he's clearly a jobber. If he wasn't a buried jobber, he would have won every match clean by pinfall. Although then he'd be an overpushed superman, and I wouldn't be happy then either. And you didn't prove me wrong about no where to go but down. You know who has nowhere to go but down? The guys at the top. Like Dean Ambrose, who has been in the final segment of many wrestling broadcasts this year, both before and since the Shield split.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 17:15:53 GMT -5
Also should mention Ambrose lost by DQ against Cesaro in July, and by Count-out (chasing Rollins) against Barrett in June. Man, this guy is getting the shaft.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 23, 2014 17:18:08 GMT -5
A DQ is still a loss. Fun fact. And you didn't prove me wrong about no where to go but down. You don't seem to understand how momentum works in wrestling, and yes, I will tell you that you don't understand that. A DQ loss, like when Ambrose hit Cesaro with a chair, helps build his character and momentum. The entire storyline is based around Ambrose and Rollins interfering in each other's matches and DQ finishes are left and right. Jobbers don't lose by DQ, they lose clean, they lose often. Why do I have to prove there's a place to go from here? The storyline is STILL going on. Wanna know where it's gonna go? Wait for this one to finish. You get it. I mean, John Cena has been pinned three times this year and Ambrose 5. That's impressive.
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Post by Gazza on Sept 23, 2014 17:44:02 GMT -5
No, he's not. Do you even watch the show? He's SO far away from that. Yeah, I've been watching lately. It's very obvious with the way he's treated he's not going to go anywhere after this Rollins feud is over. I mean, Reigns already did the job Ambrose couldn't so I don't even know why they bother to keep it going. I mean, Kane has beaten Ambrose, and Kane is nothing but a jobber to the stars now. That should tell you exactly how they feel about him. WWE learned from DB you can't outright bury someone, it has to be subtle. After this feud I honestly believe he goes no where. I'm not wrong, all my favorites are buried. Or close too it. The only favorite I've had recently that has done anything is Punk, and we all know how that is going at the moment. Sorry but do you ever make a post that isn't bitching?
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Post by Self-Savior on Sept 23, 2014 18:21:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I've been watching lately. It's very obvious with the way he's treated he's not going to go anywhere after this Rollins feud is over. I mean, Reigns already did the job Ambrose couldn't so I don't even know why they bother to keep it going. I mean, Kane has beaten Ambrose, and Kane is nothing but a jobber to the stars now. That should tell you exactly how they feel about him. WWE learned from DB you can't outright bury someone, it has to be subtle. After this feud I honestly believe he goes no where. I'm not wrong, all my favorites are buried. Or close too it. The only favorite I've had recently that has done anything is Punk, and we all know how that is going at the moment. Sorry but do you ever make a post that isn't bitching? That's a
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Post by Arthur Speaks on Sept 23, 2014 18:40:15 GMT -5
If Ambrose ends up feuding with Cena and doesn't win, it's going to be the creative team's fault because they don't know what to do with talent after that. It's really not Cena's fault. WWE's writing team just gets their brain cells killed after Cena does anything with anybody. Still, I'm fine not seeing that now. I think an uneasy alliance is the route they're going to go. Go listen to Chris Jericho's podcast with Edge as his guest and. They talk about the main event of summer slam from 2010. and then still see if you can blame the writing team. Yeah, because one and only documented incident of Cena affecting a match's outcome is proof he buries talent, especially considering the fact that Nexus could have gotten all their heat back more than a month later at Hell in a Cell. This Cena kid is a menace, we need to stop him! The writing team has to take the blame for some of it. It's not Cena's fault that Sandow is doing all this costume BS or that Bray Wyatt isn't as interesting as he was a couple months back. Even if he does bury talent, who cares? Triple H did the same thing and nobody even bats an eye anymore.
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Post by BØRNS on Sept 23, 2014 19:57:45 GMT -5
Yeah I'd like that, but of course Cena would squash him. No he wouldn't. Cena never actually squashes anybody. ...ok
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Post by Gazza on Sept 24, 2014 1:20:55 GMT -5
No he wouldn't. Cena never actually squashes anybody. ...ok If you think so, you clearly don't know what a squash is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 8:07:50 GMT -5
Go listen to Chris Jericho's podcast with Edge as his guest and. They talk about the main event of summer slam from 2010. and then still see if you can blame the writing team. Yeah, because one and only documented incident of Cena affecting a match's outcome is proof he buries talent, especially considering the fact that Nexus could have gotten all their heat back more than a month later at Hell in a Cell. This Cena kid is a menace, we need to stop him! The writing team has to take the blame for some of it. It's not Cena's fault that Sandow is doing all this costume BS or that Bray Wyatt isn't as interesting as he was a couple months back. Even if he does bury talent, who cares? Triple H did the same thing and nobody even bats an eye anymore. You can blame the writing team all you want. But how am i supposed to buy into Bray Wyatt as a monster when the only match he won was thanks to a singing kid. Let's be real if you don't think Cena as the face of the company.Can't speak up when the writing team comes to him with the finish of a match.And say this is stupid than you need to think again.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Sept 25, 2014 15:31:02 GMT -5
I don't think "leech" is the right term, but I see what you're saying. It's no coincidence that every time a babyface with an Indies background starts to get over with the crowd and gain some Vince immediately feels the need to get either Cena or Triple H involved into it somehow, and it usually ruins everything.
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