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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 23:17:35 GMT -5
The match quality for the most part was good to great but the outcomes of both hiac matches put a huge damper on the whole event for me. Dean needed the win to finally get his revenge for Seth putting him through hell for 6 months and did t get it. Orton/lesnar would have been something new yet we are now getting cena/brock 5 (going back to 2003) and cena looks to be the one to defeat the one. The thing is I almost reupped my network subscription after letting it expire a month ago though I had a feeling the wwe wouldn't give us the payoff we wanted. Glad I held off on reupping for now. The "payoff we wanted" meaning Cena/Rollins and Ambrose left with nothing? Makes sense.
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Post by Planktung on Oct 26, 2014 23:20:46 GMT -5
What another horrible halt to a superstar on a roll by WWE. But they've done this before. Tonight was Ambrose's night. Now what happens? He gets put in a midcard feud with Bray Wyatt? Bray Wyatt belongs on Smackdown or Superstars, is a 3rd-tier guy, and should not be anywhere near Rollins and Ambrose. Midcard feuds aren't usually established at the conclusion of a PPV.
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 26, 2014 23:21:08 GMT -5
The match quality for the most part was good to great but the outcomes of both hiac matches put a huge damper on the whole event for me. Dean needed the win to finally get his revenge for Seth putting him through hell for 6 months and did t get it. Orton/lesnar would have been something new yet we are now getting cena/brock 5 (going back to 2003) and cena looks to be the one to defeat the one. The thing is I almost reupped my network subscription after letting it expire a month ago though I had a feeling the wwe wouldn't give us the payoff we wanted. Glad I held off on reupping for now. The "payoff we wanted" meaning Cena/Rollins and Ambrose left with nothing? Makes sense. Ambrose wins, gains some much needed credibility, and then moves on to Wyatt. It wouldn't have hurt Rollins to take the loss. He's been beating dean for the last 6 months. Dean hasn't been able to get a clean win over any top names since the shield split. Him loosing hurts the little credibility he has and now he's moving to a feud with another guy who has no credibility. And because Wyatt is returning after much hype from the wwe, logic says dean is gonna lose that feud too.
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Post by Chief on Oct 26, 2014 23:24:36 GMT -5
After RAW tomorrow we will have some sense of the direction they are going in.
If they have Ambrose let Seth off the hook to go after Wyatt, then we know this was prob the end. If Ambrose puts Seth at the back of the line to take out Bray first then we know they will come back to it. And if they just decide to do an Ambrose/Rollins rematch on RAW, then we know our Network subs don't mean that much.
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Post by torriefan4life on Oct 26, 2014 23:26:55 GMT -5
I did not like the main event's ending. It should have had a clean finish one way or the other. I loved the match, but the ending ruined it for me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 23:34:50 GMT -5
The "payoff we wanted" meaning Cena/Rollins and Ambrose left with nothing? Makes sense. Ambrose wins, gains some much needed credibility, and then moves on to Wyatt. It wouldn't have hurt Rollins to take the loss. He's been beating dean for the last 6 months. Dean hasn't been able to get a clean win over any top names since the shield split. Him loosing hurts the little credibility he has and now he's moving to a feud with another guy who has no credibility. And because Wyatt is returning after much hype from the wwe, logic says dean is gonna lose that feud too. There's a difference between losing a feud and losing momentum. The Rollins/Ambrose feud clearly isn't over, and if Wyatt were to win a hard fought battle against Ambrose (or vice versa) would boost both guys, if built up properly. A clean finish tonight ends that feud, but obviously, that's not what they want to do. Edit: Honestly, it's clear now they're FINALLY building for the future, and have their top stars in sight. These four (include Reigns) are their future, and that's MUCH better than just ONE top guy. WWE is headed in a fantastic direction.
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Post by cordless2016 on Oct 26, 2014 23:43:28 GMT -5
Ambrose wins, gains some much needed credibility, and then moves on to Wyatt. It wouldn't have hurt Rollins to take the loss. He's been beating dean for the last 6 months. Dean hasn't been able to get a clean win over any top names since the shield split. Him loosing hurts the little credibility he has and now he's moving to a feud with another guy who has no credibility. And because Wyatt is returning after much hype from the wwe, logic says dean is gonna lose that feud too. There's a difference between losing a feud and losing momentum. The Rollins/Ambrose feud clearly isn't over, and if Wyatt were to win a hard fought battle against Ambrose (or vice versa) would boost both guys, if built up properly. A clean finish tonight ends that feud, but obviously, that's not what they want to do. Edit: Honestly, it's clear now they're FINALLY building for the future, and have their top stars in sight. These four (include Reigns) are their future, and that's MUCH better than just ONE top guy. WWE is headed in a fantastic direction. Going be wwe's logic you can't say that for sure. For all we know the wwe could be done with this feud and having dean simply move onto Wyatt. Seeing how the wwe has treated Wyatt and dean for the past 6 months I wouldn't be surprised if this is the route they take. I'm excited for reigns and Rollins getting pushed to the top, but I don't see how you can be excited for bray and dean when they've both been misused all year. I hope they become top players but at this point my hopes arnt high. Wyatt could have been THE HEEL of the wwe for years but the cena feud hurt him a ton. Who knows if he will ever truly recover from it. Dean has the fans behind him but the constant losing will slowly kill his support. He isn't beloved by the masses like Bryan so if the wwe isn't fully behind him I don't feel the fans will force their hand like we did with Bryan.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 23:45:51 GMT -5
There's a difference between losing a feud and losing momentum. The Rollins/Ambrose feud clearly isn't over, and if Wyatt were to win a hard fought battle against Ambrose (or vice versa) would boost both guys, if built up properly. A clean finish tonight ends that feud, but obviously, that's not what they want to do. Edit: Honestly, it's clear now they're FINALLY building for the future, and have their top stars in sight. These four (include Reigns) are their future, and that's MUCH better than just ONE top guy. WWE is headed in a fantastic direction. Going be wwe's logic you can't say that for sure. For all we know the wwe could be done with this feud and having dean simply move onto Wyatt. Seeing how the wwe has treated Wyatt and dean for the past 6 months I wouldn't be surprised if this is the route they take. I'm excited for reigns and Rollins getting pushed to the top, but I don't see how you can be excited for bray and dean when they've both been misused all year. I hope they become top players but at this point my hopes arnt high. Wyatt could have been THE HEEL of the wwe for years but the cena feud hurt him a ton. Who knows if he will ever truly recover from it. Dean has the fans behind him but the constant losing will slowly kill his support. He isn't beloved by the masses like Bryan so if the wwe isn't fully behind him I don't feel the fans will force their hand like we did with Bryan. I definitely see where you're coming from with Bray, but I don't see the same for Ambrose. He gets the biggest pops every week and is over so huge right now. Honestly, I see Ambrose/Wyatt lifting both guys. I don't think the losing will hurt him, because he's not losing clean. I'd bet he wins an incredibly close feud with Wyatt and goes on to finish Rollins at Wrestlemania.
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Post by RybackV1 on Oct 27, 2014 0:10:44 GMT -5
That Ambrose Rollins match was one of the best HIAC matches of the last decade. Let's stop nitpicking and be grateful we got to see it. Ambrose Rollins and Wyatt are the future. And I'm very happy we saw a glimpse of that tonight.
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Post by Chief on Oct 27, 2014 0:20:04 GMT -5
That Ambrose Rollins match was one of the best HIAC matches of the last decade. Let's stop nitpicking and be grateful we got to see it. Ambrose Rollins and Wyatt are the future. And I'm very happy we saw a glimpse of that tonight. You can like something a lot and still constructively criticize it.
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Post by mrbiggs on Oct 27, 2014 0:49:22 GMT -5
I renewed my subscription to the Network about 2 hours before HIAC and thought it was... ok. I really like Wyatt, so I think a feud between him and Ambrose would be good.
How many times did Michael Cole get Ambrose and Rollins mixed up tonight?! lol
I suppose we are getting a stop to the Ambrose / Rollins feud so Orton and Rollins can start theirs and get that "Orton face turn" we have heard so much about.
Who thinks Cena and Lesnar ends with Rollins cashing in and taking out the winner, and then Orton going after Rollins, who will then really be the face of the Authority?
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Oct 27, 2014 0:58:15 GMT -5
I seriously can't believe people are still overly optimistic that Ambrose will eventually continue his feud with Rollins and earn a win out of it. What in the world would make you think that given this company's track record? Go back and check the individual win-loss records of everybody in The Shield since the group broke up. You'll see that Ambrose has been handed the most losses, and I'm pretty sure he's the only one who's even lost several matches cleanly, too. Seth Rollins losing cleanly for the first time in six months to Ambrose wouldn't have killed his career.
It's just awful booking. It's become clear that no matter how over Ambrose is and how much better he is than everyone else in the company, he's still always going to be reaching for that nonexistent brass ring the same way Punk and Bryan did. The only way he's going to get any sort of a main event push is because the company will eventually feel obligated to appease the fans after realizing 6 months too late how over Ambrose is.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 1:00:03 GMT -5
I seriously can't believe people are still overly optimistic that Ambrose will eventually continue his feud with Rollins and earn a win out of it. What in the world would make you think that given this company's track record? Go back and check the individual win-loss records of everybody in The Shield since the group broke up. You'll see that Ambrose has been handed the most losses, and I'm pretty sure he's the only one who's even lost several matches cleanly, too. Seth Rollins losing cleanly for the first time in six months to Ambrose wouldn't have killed his career. It's just awful booking. It's become clear that no matter how over Ambrose is and how much better he is than everyone else in the company, he's still always going to be reaching for that nonexistent brass ring the same way Punk and Bryan did. The only way he's going to get any sort of a main event push is because the company will eventually feel obligated to appease the fans after realizing 6 months too late how over Ambrose is. Bro, Ambrose is my favorite "new" wrestler..I haven't liked someone this much since Punk in 2006. I'm just trying to stay positive I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 1:03:59 GMT -5
I seriously can't believe people are still overly optimistic that Ambrose will eventually continue his feud with Rollins and earn a win out of it. What in the world would make you think that given this company's track record? Go back and check the individual win-loss records of everybody in The Shield since the group broke up. You'll see that Ambrose has been handed the most losses, and I'm pretty sure he's the only one who's even lost several matches cleanly, too. Seth Rollins losing cleanly for the first time in six months to Ambrose wouldn't have killed his career. It's just awful booking. It's become clear that no matter how over Ambrose is and how much better he is than everyone else in the company, he's still always going to be reaching for that nonexistent brass ring the same way Punk and Bryan did. The only way he's going to get any sort of a main event push is because the company will eventually feel obligated to appease the fans after realizing 6 months too late how over Ambrose is. Cleanly...Ambrose hasn't lost cleanly to Rollins. The booking is absolutely fine with Ambrose/Rollins. Thinking otherwise is just being pessimistic and assuming the worst. Ambrose literally has not lost cleaning since the early half of this year. He's in fine shape.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 1:08:02 GMT -5
Vince: "JOHN CENA IS GOING TO WIN BECAUSE I WANT IT!!" I can't stand this CENSORED company!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 1:15:01 GMT -5
Vince: "JOHN CENA IS GOING TO WIN BECAUSE I WANT IT!!" I can't stand this CENSORED company! Would you honestly rather Rollins vs Cena? I wouldn't.
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Post by DTP. on Oct 27, 2014 1:36:34 GMT -5
Happy with the direction. However if Rollins/Ambrose is truly concluded after tonight, then this means Ambrose really needs a strong win in his next feud - which looks like Bray Wyatt: who has eaten losses to John Cena, Chris Jericho and the Big Show in programs this year. Wyatt needs establishing as a credible threat in his new 'lone entity' role, however Ambrose needs the luxury of winning a feud. Creative must be careful in how they book this one out.
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Post by BØRNS on Oct 27, 2014 1:45:54 GMT -5
Damnit this is cool but all i wanted was a epic war between the two with a clean finish ... and it would have totally been if WWE didn't screw it up with interference. Damn! Why did they have to ruin the freshest match in years?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 1:46:37 GMT -5
Decent show until the f*ck finish.
Cena also winning was a downer.
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Post by Joey Cush on Oct 27, 2014 1:58:59 GMT -5
Just finished watching the PPV. I really enjoyed some things and the things I didnt care for I seemingly skipped.
Annoyed Ziggler beat Cesaro in 2 falls, but was cool because it never happens. Just such a big fan of Cesaro. Makes Ziggler look like a stud but lets see if they can continue it.
Tag match was what is was, two great teams having another really good match. Uso's are money,They should never be broken up.
Bella match was slow but then picked up, Brie doing a suicide Dive was pretty sick. Not too into the feud but it helps separate the two girls.
Cena/Orton wasnt too bad. Better than past matches. Some spots were predictable but thats okay. Thought Cena/Lesnar needed to happen given Rollins DQ at the last PPV so I felt Cena winning was unnecessary but oh well.
Skipped Miz/Sheamus, Rusev/Big Slow, and most of Divas title match.
The Main Event was hot and loud. Awesome booking. Paying homage to Undertaker/Mankind was cool and definitely something refreshing. This match needed to go on last. The entire time I was thinking, who the hell booked this awesome match when everything else the last few weeks/months has been absolute garbage? These guys are the absolute sh*t and can put on a great match no matter the stipulation. They're young, hungry and are willing to lay it all on the line. Ending was what it was, would have liked to see a clean finish but reintroducing Wyatt was cool after he started so hot and has done really nothing as of late. Will be very interested to see where this goes from here.
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