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Post by rustyy on Oct 17, 2014 21:27:30 GMT -5
I mean drawing ppv buys. But Merch and ticket sales are fine without him, so he's not that important either. I'm sure his merch has taken quite a hit, but if I remember he was at one point number 2 (albeit a distant number 2). Bryan could still be a huge draw when he returns, which does matter in WWE. The only time I can say drawing didn't make a difference in push is when Ryder took off. That's the thing, Vince doesn't care if you draw anymore. He's too focused on his own agenda to give a damn. No competition means no threat, which means he can go back to his style of pro wrestling. Cartoony with one top baby face over all. They tried to sabotage Bryan from the start of his reign, first feud with Kane? Dude was doomed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 21:29:57 GMT -5
I'm sure his merch has taken quite a hit, but if I remember he was at one point number 2 (albeit a distant number 2). Bryan could still be a huge draw when he returns, which does matter in WWE. The only time I can say drawing didn't make a difference in push is when Ryder took off. That's the thing, Vince doesn't care if you draw anymore. He's too focused on his own agenda to give a damn. No competition means no threat, which means he can go back to his style of pro wrestling. Cartoony with one top baby face over all. They tried to sabotage Bryan from the start of his reign, first feud with Kane? Dude was doomed. He wasn't doomed at all. He still was getting a huge reaction. The worst thing about that feud was the exact same angle that killed Ryder. Which...really was nearly the exact same angle. Were they TRYING to sabotage him? I doubt it. Were they trying to build Kane as another loose psychopath again? I'd go with that one. If he didn't get hurt, he probably wouldn't have been champion much longer, but I think his reign could have produced some great matches. I think unfortunately they missed Bryan/Lesnar.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 21:43:58 GMT -5
The WWE might do something stupid to make the male fans cheer for Cena. Even if it means having an affair with Brie Bella! They still won't buy it! Cena is never turning heel as long as Vince keeps jacking off to Cena's looks!
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Post by jayrod2009 on Oct 17, 2014 21:48:36 GMT -5
Everyone needs to remember, WWE is a buisness. Daniel Bryan sells tickets, Daniel Bryan sells merchandise, Daniel Bryan gets a crowd rowdy, Daniel Bryan is best for buisness. WWE knows this. They know when he returns, that the roof will blow off the building. I feel the best way to do this, is by letting him return unannounced. Let it be a treat foe thise that ordered the PPV, and a gift for those who get the Network to go back and watch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 21:51:26 GMT -5
WWE won't have a choice but to book him as a main eventer. They will relize this when he returns and gets the biggest pop since HHH returned in 2002.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Oct 17, 2014 22:18:45 GMT -5
If anybody thinks the WWE lost faith in Daniel Bryan, you need to lay off that bad alcohol.
As mentioned in prior posts, Bryan is one of the biggest draws for the company. If Bryan plans on being back at WrestleMania XXXI, he better get his surgery now. If he waits till December, there isn't a chance he would be wrestling at 'Mania XXXI.
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Post by jacktunney on Oct 17, 2014 22:27:42 GMT -5
Bryan feuding with Kane directly after is no worse than austin feuding with Dude freaking Love after he won his first title. That wasn't the Foley we would come to know as a main eventer yet
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 1:40:07 GMT -5
Yeah, remember how they lost faith in Austin after he was out with a broken neck? Well Austin kept them in business, and things are going fine without Bryan who they didn't want to push anyway. Vince doesn't care about what is best for the company anymore, he cares about what he wants. Austin wasn't keeping them in business when he broke his neck; he was the IC champ they saw potential in. They put him on the fast track to the title when he came back because of how much the fans loved him. Whether or not they'll put that same faith in Bryan is unforeseen, but saying the reason Austin was still pushed when he got back because he was keeping the company afloat was just wrong. Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and the Undertaker were doing that.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Oct 18, 2014 2:02:51 GMT -5
I think if he comes back healthy and the the crowd takes to him (which I'd expect them to) I think he'll be ok. He will just need a worth-while feud to get him going.
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Post by sitruC on Oct 18, 2014 5:29:36 GMT -5
They'll keep him in the main event, just won't put him in matches that are dangerous I'd assume since they'd owe him a higher duty of care.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 5:34:07 GMT -5
They'll keep him in the main event, just won't put him in matches that are dangerous I'd assume since they'd owe him a higher duty of care. Yeah, I don't think we will be seeing him in any extreme rules, MITB etc..
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Oct 18, 2014 5:38:29 GMT -5
I think he'll be a main eventer again when he returns. However, I don't see him getting the title again for at least a year or two after he comes back. He'll have big feuds and if he manages to not get injured again, they'll give him the title again. Also, do not be surprised that when he returns to action, that he does not use the Diving Headbutt and some of the high impact moves that looks like he could really injure his neck again. The WWE will no doubt make him change some parts of his moveset to avoid him getting injured again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 6:52:48 GMT -5
Well Austin kept them in business, and things are going fine without Bryan who they didn't want to push anyway. Vince doesn't care about what is best for the company anymore, he cares about what he wants. Austin wasn't keeping them in business when he broke his neck; he was the IC champ they saw potential in. They put him on the fast track to the title when he came back because of how much the fans loved him. Whether or not they'll put that same faith in Bryan is unforeseen, but saying the reason Austin was still pushed when he got back because he was keeping the company afloat was just wrong. Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and the Undertaker were doing that. Have to respectfully disagree Ben. Austin vs The Harts was THE hottest thing in WWF 1997.....HBK threw tantrum after tantrum in 1997 and was hardly there for the big events.....and UTs reign on top was terribly forgettable.
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Post by Slim on Oct 18, 2014 6:55:06 GMT -5
Daniel Bryan will probably become champion again, but in a long time, as WWE want Roman Reigns to become the new champion and the new Cena. Don't forget that there's Cesaro, Devitt, Steen, KENTA, Zayn, Neville,... etc who have to become champion.
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Post by robl7up on Oct 18, 2014 8:22:55 GMT -5
Yeah, remember how they lost faith in Austin after he was out with a broken neck? gotta just say,love your sig!..funny chit!
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Post by marino13 on Oct 18, 2014 9:23:23 GMT -5
Vince hates everything. He hates you. He hates me. He hate Linda. He hate Shane & Stephanie. He hates foreigners. He hates Wrestlemania. He hates money. He hates injuries. And he most certainly Hates Bryan. He only works to screw you over. If you want Bryan to win, he won't. If you hope for a nice sunny day at the beach, Vince will make it rain. Vince is the devil. Vince is the antichrist. That being said... If Bryan can return I'm sure he'll be in a high profiled spot. He'll win some and lose some. And if it proves to be best for business, I'm sure Bryan will get another run. Which is exactly how he should be booked.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Oct 18, 2014 9:41:02 GMT -5
Vince hates everything. He hates you. He hates me. He hate Linda. He hate Shane & Stephanie. He hates foreigners. He hates Wrestlemania. He hates money. He hates injuries. And he most certainly Hates Bryan. He only works to screw you over. If you want Bryan to win, he won't. If you hope for a nice sunny day at the beach, Vince will make it rain. Vince is the devil. Vince is the antichrist. That being said... If Bryan can return I'm sure he'll be in a high profiled spot. He'll win some and lose some. And if it proves to be best for business, I'm sure Bryan will get another run. Which is exactly how he should be booked. I mean, he did wrestle God live on Pay-Per-View...
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Post by marino13 on Oct 18, 2014 9:42:30 GMT -5
Vince hates everything. He hates you. He hates me. He hate Linda. He hate Shane & Stephanie. He hates foreigners. He hates Wrestlemania. He hates money. He hates injuries. And he most certainly Hates Bryan. He only works to screw you over. If you want Bryan to win, he won't. If you hope for a nice sunny day at the beach, Vince will make it rain. Vince is the devil. Vince is the antichrist. That being said... If Bryan can return I'm sure he'll be in a high profiled spot. He'll win some and lose some. And if it proves to be best for business, I'm sure Bryan will get another run. Which is exactly how he should be booked. I mean, he did wrestle God live on Pay-Per-View... He hated that PPV too.
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Post by Rob on Oct 18, 2014 10:19:14 GMT -5
Like someone else said, WWE is a business. WWE has no cash cows other than Cena. You can bet your ass WWE is going to hotshot Bryan back into the spotlight when he returns. He is the only established top face next to Cena.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 10:28:22 GMT -5
I would genuinely be more worried about Bryan making it back at all......then we can all get our shorts in a knot over how he is or isn't being used properly.
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