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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 7:37:14 GMT -5
Small request: Please stop calling them rubber. They are plastic. Give us cloth.
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Post by poindizzle on Oct 25, 2014 9:20:21 GMT -5
Cloth and Rubber have their obvious pros, but the cons are there in both.
Cloth: not always fitted right, with shirt-tails too long (see E21 Randy Orton and E19 Daniel Bryan).
Many colors stain, even black if left on too long. Usually stains under the pits and across the shoulder tops where they are stretched tightest and in closest contact.
No design on the back.
No hemming at the bottom nor on sleeves = potential ravelling.
Rubber shirts: The sleeved ones prevent shoulder movement.
The sleeved ones look ridiculous on someone with small shoulders (see BOPPV Miz).
The neck holes are small on many to the point of scuffing eyebrows when you put them on (Happened to E12 Orton).
The old pegs were hard to clasp shut.
End of day? I like the looks of cloth but rubber won't stain. That's a HUGE deal to me. If the budget is less restricted by not using cloth, well, that's cool too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 9:56:00 GMT -5
I pretty much always HAAAAAAATE soft goods accessories in this scale. Poor tailoring is almost always a factor, while plastic gear pretty much always fits exactly as it should.
Moreso, small cloth accessories look bizarre because while the overall garment has been scaled down to 1/12, the threads can not be. Imagine if your clothes were made out of thick ropes. Very strange looking.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Oct 25, 2014 10:46:38 GMT -5
I prefer cloth, but I don't really care that much. When the shirt isn't good, I just display them without.
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Post by Chip on Oct 25, 2014 10:55:01 GMT -5
yeah actually its just the full t-shirts that i prefer in cloth because of the way they look and fit
anything sleeveless is fine in plastic, and i will agree that the newer "pegs" on the sides are much better than the original ones....not perfect, but better. im torn about entrance coats/robes though, because in plastic you cannot move the arms...so if you wanted to pose a figure differently you're stuck (Elite20 Jericho as an example) which is not ideal...but i agree that they probably look better with all the details, although Flair's robe is cloth and that looks amazing, and the EG Undertaker entrance coat is perfect....same with M$M's suit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 14:28:13 GMT -5
I personally like the cloth over plastic for the reason of how much easier it is to add/remove the items. For things like long jackets/trench coats, depending on who it is, plastic would be better for the "leather" items (ex: Edge and 'Takers gear).
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Oct 25, 2014 14:44:04 GMT -5
I pretty much always HAAAAAAATE soft goods accessories in this scale. Poor tailoring is almost always a factor, while plastic gear pretty much always fits exactly as it should. Moreso, small cloth accessories look bizarre because while the overall garment has been scaled down to 1/12, the threads can not be. Imagine if your clothes were made out of thick ropes. Very strange looking. Yup. They always look so weird. I think the only good way to do t-shirts is the R3 way... Have decent t-shirt torsos on the figure (not the weird tucked-in Mattel ones).
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 25, 2014 15:11:42 GMT -5
They are both good and bad. Plastic shirts are a pain to put on the figure but they have the designs on the back of the shirt. Cloth shirts are good as well very easy to put on and looks more real but they are missing the designs on the back. They should follow the model of how Jakks made the Elite NWO Hogan. The shirt was , and the velcro was on the left side by his hip. That shirt looked way better than any of the ones where the velcro is on the back.
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Post by popyduggan on Oct 25, 2014 16:20:52 GMT -5
I like the form of the sleeveless and cutoff(sandwich style) plastic shirts, except the ones with figures like Road Dogg and the Usos where the shirts are way too big for their torsos.
One major complaint I have against plastic shirts/wearable plastic accessories is that they take paint off of figures (I put ribtape around DDP's waist and when I took it off days later, a bunch of the blue paint came off with it) and the designs on the shirts get lifted off if they're pressed up against anything for more than a day(I bought E26, put 'em all in a pile until I could rearrange my collection, and when I picked out Warrior, a big blotch of Road Dogg's shirt was affixed to his kneepad, so imo that's 2 figures ruined).
In conclusion, I like cloth a lot better because I would rather have dye stains than misprinted accessories(I remember so many DX shirts were missing little white dots here and there on the HHH, Gunn, and Dogg figures) that can potentially damage other figures through normal use.
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Post by marino13 on Oct 25, 2014 16:28:14 GMT -5
When Mattel first started I wasn't a fan of the cloth shirts. They were too bulky and rolled up at the bottom. But the new cloth shirts are great. I love the new material & the way they look. But I do not hate the plastic ones in some occasions. I like em both, so I guess I'm no help here. Have a good day.
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Post by poindizzle on Oct 25, 2014 18:30:21 GMT -5
I pretty much always HAAAAAAATE soft goods accessories in this scale. Poor tailoring is almost always a factor, while plastic gear pretty much always fits exactly as it should. Moreso, small cloth accessories look bizarre because while the overall garment has been scaled down to 1/12, the threads can not be. Imagine if your clothes were made out of thick ropes. Very strange looking. Yup. They always look so weird. I think the only good way to do t-shirts is the R3 way... Have decent t-shirt torsos on the figure (not the weird tucked-in Mattel ones). I wish the same thing as well. The r3 tech figures were pretty well executed for the time. I liked that, much like Mattel, they had more realistic physiques. I think Ruthless was a step back. The Mattel shirt molds are good outside of the fact that they are tucked in.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 21:23:40 GMT -5
Strongly prefer cloth. In fact, just used the new Daniel Bryan jump-suit to customize Erik Rowan. Hated the sculpted jump-suit for Rowan (admittedly not plastic) but it turned out great. Switched Rowan's head onto a Hillbilly body and the cloth suit fits perfect. Suit is blue, not green, but works for me.
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