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Post by KrimV on Oct 28, 2014 10:35:06 GMT -5
It's pretty ridiculous. I've been watching wrestling for many years and they've done a LOT of dumb things creatively, but essentially rendering their only important title as irrelevant is mind-boggling. And it's made much worse by the fact that the storylines to supplant its absence are more of the same.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Oct 28, 2014 11:00:47 GMT -5
I posted a short review of Raw on my blog if anyone is interested. I rather enjoyed the show.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 11:15:48 GMT -5
It's pretty ridiculous. I've been watching wrestling for many years and they've done a LOT of dumb things creatively, but essentially rendering their only important title as irrelevant is mind-boggling. And it's made much worse by the fact that the storylines to supplant its absence are more of the same. They've made it more important, actually.
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Post by KrimV on Oct 28, 2014 11:58:38 GMT -5
They've made it more important, actually. I'm not sure how. At this point, their champion is just sitting at home doing a lot of nothing. To my knowledge he's not out and about promoting anything, he's not working at house shows, and he's not appearing on any television. They could've just vacated the title and at least then there would be a reason to have no champion around.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 12:06:48 GMT -5
They've made it more important, actually. I'm not sure how. At this point, their champion is just sitting at home doing a lot of nothing. To my knowledge he's not out and about promoting anything, he's not working at house shows, and he's not appearing on any television. They could've just vacated the title and at least then there would be a reason to have no champion around. They're making it seem like it's extremely hard to get a shot at him. They've put Lesnar on another level. By doing so, they elevate the title, and when the title change happens, it will be a bigger moment than if it had happened, say, at Night of Champions.
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Post by KrimV on Oct 28, 2014 13:00:19 GMT -5
They're making it seem like it's extremely hard to get a shot at him. They've put Lesnar on another level. By doing so, they elevate the title, and when the title change happens, it will be a bigger moment than if it had happened, say, at Night of Champions. That would be fine if that's what the storylines were pushing and that's what I thought they were going to do at first, but they're not doing anything of the sort. It's more along the lines of "whenever Lesnar feels like it."
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Post by Chip on Oct 28, 2014 13:18:04 GMT -5
I'm not sure how. At this point, their champion is just sitting at home doing a lot of nothing. To my knowledge he's not out and about promoting anything, he's not working at house shows, and he's not appearing on any television. They could've just vacated the title and at least then there would be a reason to have no champion around. They're making it seem like it's extremely hard to get a shot at him. They've put Lesnar on another level. By doing so, they elevate the title, and when the title change happens, it will be a bigger moment than if it had happened, say, at Night of Champions. Um... Cena faced Ambrose to see who would face Rollins at the PPV the LOSER got to face Randy Orton for a shot at Lesnar extremely hard? that was one of the easiest title matches Cena's ever earned
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 13:19:50 GMT -5
They're making it seem like it's extremely hard to get a shot at him. They've put Lesnar on another level. By doing so, they elevate the title, and when the title change happens, it will be a bigger moment than if it had happened, say, at Night of Champions. Um... Cena faced Ambrose to see who would face Rollins at the PPV the LOSER got to face Randy Orton for a shot at Lesnar extremely hard? that was one of the easiest title matches Cena's ever earned Not what I meant. They're acting like Lesnar has no credible challengers, so building credible opponents is difficult. I worded it poorly.
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Post by Chip on Oct 28, 2014 13:30:28 GMT -5
hmmm ok that changes things, lol
however they are acting like Cena is the only credible challenge to Lesnar. that is just as much of a problem as it is the title not even being SEEN on the shows
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 13:35:32 GMT -5
hmmm ok that changes things, lol however they are acting like Cena is the only credible challenge to Lesnar. that is just as much of a problem as it is the title not even being SEEN on the shows That I agree with. I'd love to see new challengers. Ortons new found persona would be incredibly interesting to see him face Lesnar.
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Post by Rule 30 on Oct 28, 2014 13:42:11 GMT -5
I enjoyed last night's show, there's a lot of stuff/people I'm interested in at the moment. Plus, Da Big Guy!
I really couldn't care any less about anything to do with Cena or Lesnar, however.
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Post by KrimV on Oct 28, 2014 13:50:12 GMT -5
however they are acting like Cena is the only credible challenge to Lesnar. that is just as much of a problem as it is the title not even being SEEN on the shows When they started Lesnar's reign I thought there would be plenty of opportunities to start building up guys using Lesnar as this all-encompassing villain with the backing of The Authority. Even if his challengers would get crushed, having them stand up to Lesnar would give them a boost and create intriguing storylines. I thought they would make the narrative that every challenger was getting destroyed and there was no one that could take the title from him. As it is, no one can take the title from him because he just isn't there, not because he's been a crushing force.
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Post by KrimV on Oct 28, 2014 13:51:49 GMT -5
I enjoyed last night's show, there's a lot of stuff/people I'm interested in at the moment. Plus, Da Big Guy! Title stuff aside, there's some POTENTIALLY interesting stories that could take shape over the coming weeks, but the cynic in me is hesitant to get too interested.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 11:31:39 GMT -5
With you putting over Hell in the cell. as this career altering match. why the hell was Seth Rollins the only one selling any sort of injury.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 11:38:32 GMT -5
With you putting over Hell in the cell. as this career altering match. why the hell was Seth Rollins the only one selling any sort of injury. Ambrose was too.
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Post by Chief on Oct 29, 2014 21:37:23 GMT -5
Are a lot of people forgetting that Show and Henry had amassed quite a few tag team wins before Show broke up the team to go after Rusev.
I've read complaints about them getting a title shot but it wasn't that long ago they were beating the Wyatts twice a week.
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Post by Chief on Oct 29, 2014 21:38:30 GMT -5
Also the fact that Ambrose is moving on from Rollins is RIDICULOUS.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 22:18:33 GMT -5
Also the fact that Ambrose is moving on from Rollins is RIDICULOUS. For now.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Oct 29, 2014 22:29:34 GMT -5
Also the fact that Ambrose is moving on from Rollins is RIDICULOUS. The term "Wrestlemania moment" should be thrown in here now. It's a classic, long chase. Ambrose still wants to kill Rollins, but now he has this problem he has to handle first. I'd much rather see their "final" match at 'Mania than at HIAC. That PPV was a throwaway until their match.
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Post by Chief on Oct 29, 2014 22:32:28 GMT -5
Also the fact that Ambrose is moving on from Rollins is RIDICULOUS. The term "Wrestlemania moment" should be thrown in here now. It's a classic, long chase. Ambrose still wants to kill Rollins, but now he has this problem he has to handle first. I'd much rather see their "final" match at 'Mania than at HIAC. That PPV was a throwaway until their match. You are putting a lot of faith in this company. I'm not sure it's warranted anymore. There was nothing in his RAW promo that gave any sort of hint that he'd be back for Rollins.
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