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Post by johnnyb on Nov 23, 2014 18:36:44 GMT -5
People that are upset with Brock as champion are missing the forest through the trees...
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Post by tg11 on Nov 23, 2014 18:39:25 GMT -5
I know right, Lesnar as champion he is a mercenary which means he defends his title when he wants to not when people want him to, it's perfect and Lesnar when he defends his title he always beats his opponents decisively
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 23, 2014 18:45:18 GMT -5
And Lesnar would not just decimate Rollins he would destroy Rollins Lesnar would destroy The Authority's golden boy in under 5 minutes Good thing he has the briefcase so the match wouldn't have to be more than 5 minutes.
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Post by tg11 on Nov 23, 2014 18:46:59 GMT -5
And Lesnar would not just decimate Rollins he would destroy Rollins Lesnar would destroy The Authority's golden boy in under 5 minutes Good thing he has the briefcase so the match wouldn't have to be more than 5 minutes. Even if Rollins were to cash in against Lesnar he would still fail because Lesnar he is unbeatable I mean this is the man who ended Undertaker's 21-0 WrestleMania undefeated streak this is the man who basically destroyed John Cena at SummerSlam manhandled Cena like he was never manhandled like before, Lesnar has been on a roll ever since becoming WWE World Heavyweight Champion
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Post by Planktung on Nov 23, 2014 18:47:14 GMT -5
I'm happy with the title being off TV. Its given the writers a chance to give main eventers something to do without the title always taking the center stage. As of now, there's no one on the roster that could dethrone Lesnar. So, we need to build to a guy who can. In my honest opinion, there's only two guys active on the main roster who, with some proper build, could believably dethrone Lesnar. Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose. There are issues with both of them, though, that prevent any of them from being built up well enough. Reigns will supposedly be back in December, giving WWE only a month to build him up to win the Royal Rumble. After that, they have two months to build him well enough to defeat Lesnar and become World Champion. That's just not enough time in my opinion. Reigns being injured put a serious constraint on WWE's plans going forward, but of course, they will disregard that and still go with Reigns. With Dean Ambrose, the chance was there for WWE to build him up. He was hot coming out of The Shield's split, and picked up even more steam leading up to Hell in a Cell. But, for some reason, it's just been decided that Ambrose isn't the guy right now. Had WWE displayed a bit more faith in Ambrose and not just toss him out of the main event scene, it would be believable for him to take on Lesnar. Unless Lesnar is dropping the WWE World Heavyweight Championship to John Cena, Randy Orton or Daniel Bryan, whoever dethrones him will not be seen as credible enough.
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Post by Tyler Black on Nov 23, 2014 18:52:35 GMT -5
100% in character, for obvious reasons the sooner rollins is champ the sooner ill be 100% happy with WWE. Contrary to most on here I love WWE currently and don't want brock to leave.
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Post by Tyler Black on Nov 23, 2014 18:53:38 GMT -5
Good thing he has the briefcase so the match wouldn't have to be more than 5 minutes. Even if Rollins were to cash in against Lesnar he would still fail because Lesnar he is unbeatable I mean this is the man who ended Undertaker's 21-0 WrestleMania undefeated streak this is the man who basically destroyed John Cena at SummerSlam manhandled Cena like he was never manhandled like before, Lesnar has been on a roll ever since becoming WWE World Heavyweight Champion Rollins had Lesnar out cold at NOC....
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 23, 2014 18:54:50 GMT -5
Even if Rollins were to cash in against Lesnar he would still fail because Lesnar he is unbeatable I mean this is the man who ended Undertaker's 21-0 WrestleMania undefeated streak this is the man who basically destroyed John Cena at SummerSlam manhandled Cena like he was never manhandled like before, Lesnar has been on a roll ever since becoming WWE World Heavyweight Champion Rollins had Lesnar out cold at NOC.... I was gonna say the same thing.
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Post by tg11 on Nov 23, 2014 18:57:23 GMT -5
Even so Rollins would not have been able to beat Lesnar especially if Lesnar were to kick out of The Curb Stomp but I guess we'll never know
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Post by jayrod2009 on Nov 23, 2014 18:58:24 GMT -5
I'm happy with the title being off TV. Its given the writers a chance to give main eventers something to do without the title always taking the center stage. As of now, there's no one on the roster that could dethrone Lesnar. So, we need to build to a guy who can. In my honest opinion, there's only two guys active on the main roster who, with some proper build, could believably dethrone Lesnar. Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose. There are issues with both of them, though, that prevent any of them from being built up well enough. Reigns will supposedly be back in December, giving WWE only a month to build him up to win the Royal Rumble. After that, they have two months to build him well enough to defeat Lesnar and become World Champion. That's just not enough time in my opinion. Reigns being injured put a serious constraint on WWE's plans going forward, but of course, they will disregard that and still go with Reigns. With Dean Ambrose, the chance was there for WWE to build him up. He was hot coming out of The Shield's split, and picked up even more steam leading up to Hell in a Cell. But, for some reason, it's just been decided that Ambrose isn't the guy right now. Had WWE displayed a bit more faith in Ambrose and not just toss him out of the main event scene, it would be believable for him to take on Lesnar. Unless Lesnar is dropping the WWE World Heavyweight Championship to John Cena, Randy Orton or Daniel Bryan, whoever dethrones him will not be seen as credible enough. You lost me at Dean Ambrose. Unless you mean by a rollup or cheating, then no. Rollins... Again, no. Ryback, Cena, and Reigns are it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 19:02:02 GMT -5
Even so Rollins would not have been able to beat Lesnar especially if Lesnar were to kick out of The Curb Stomp but I guess we'll never know Four AA's and a curb stomp won't do it?
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Post by Planktung on Nov 23, 2014 19:03:42 GMT -5
In my honest opinion, there's only two guys active on the main roster who, with some proper build, could believably dethrone Lesnar. Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose. There are issues with both of them, though, that prevent any of them from being built up well enough. Reigns will supposedly be back in December, giving WWE only a month to build him up to win the Royal Rumble. After that, they have two months to build him well enough to defeat Lesnar and become World Champion. That's just not enough time in my opinion. Reigns being injured put a serious constraint on WWE's plans going forward, but of course, they will disregard that and still go with Reigns. With Dean Ambrose, the chance was there for WWE to build him up. He was hot coming out of The Shield's split, and picked up even more steam leading up to Hell in a Cell. But, for some reason, it's just been decided that Ambrose isn't the guy right now. Had WWE displayed a bit more faith in Ambrose and not just toss him out of the main event scene, it would be believable for him to take on Lesnar. Unless Lesnar is dropping the WWE World Heavyweight Championship to John Cena, Randy Orton or Daniel Bryan, whoever dethrones him will not be seen as credible enough. You lost me at Dean Ambrose. Unless you mean by a rollup or cheating, then no. Rollins... Again, no. Ryback, Cena, and Reigns are it. With build, I could buy crazy, relentless Dean Ambrose as a threat. The visual of him getting up with a grin on his face after repeatedly being put down by Lesnar is much too good for me to overlook. I don't see the potential in Ryback, though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 19:04:40 GMT -5
Even if Rollins were to cash in against Lesnar he would still fail because Lesnar he is unbeatable I mean this is the man who ended Undertaker's 21-0 WrestleMania undefeated streak this is the man who basically destroyed John Cena at SummerSlam manhandled Cena like he was never manhandled like before, Lesnar has been on a roll ever since becoming WWE World Heavyweight Champion Rollins had Lesnar out cold at NOC.... But Seth was only able to do that After john cena did 4 AAs and 3 Stfs to lesnar.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 23, 2014 19:06:01 GMT -5
Even so Rollins would not have been able to beat Lesnar especially if Lesnar were to kick out of The Curb Stomp but I guess we'll never know Four AA's and a curb stomp won't do it? Well, The Giant fell off of a building at Halloween Havoc '95 and that wasn't enough, so I'm sure it'll take more than four AA's and a Curb Stomp to best Brock.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 23, 2014 19:06:52 GMT -5
You lost me at Dean Ambrose. Unless you mean by a rollup or cheating, then no. Rollins... Again, no. Ryback, Cena, and Reigns are it. With build, I could buy crazy, relentless Dean Ambrose as a threat. The visual of him getting up with a grin on his face after repeatedly being put down by Lesnar is much too good for me to overlook. I don't see the potential in Ryback, though. This is EXACTLY what I was going to say. Ambrose can be bought as a lunatic who will do anything to win. That can be a threat. I don't get the Ryback stuff honestly. I only ever enjoyed him in Rybaxel.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 19:08:48 GMT -5
Four AA's and a curb stomp won't do it? Well, The Giant fell off of a building at Halloween Havoc '95 and that wasn't enough, so I'm sure it'll take more than four AA's and a Curb Stomp to best Brock. I think Shane McMahon can beat him, I mean, he beat Big Show in a last man standing.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Nov 23, 2014 19:20:19 GMT -5
With build, I could buy crazy, relentless Dean Ambrose as a threat. The visual of him getting up with a grin on his face after repeatedly being put down by Lesnar is much too good for me to overlook. I don't see the potential in Ryback, though. This is EXACTLY what I was going to say. Ambrose can be bought as a lunatic who will do anything to win. That can be a threat. I don't get the Ryback stuff honestly. I only ever enjoyed him in Rybaxel. It still comes down to this. The man that beats Lesnar becomes THE man. Not just because they would be WWE Champion. But because they beat the Streak Ender, and a man who took Cena THE MAN, and rag dolled his ass. So, Ambrose doesn't deserve that high stage. Rollins doesn't deserve that high Stage. Honestly, no one really deserves that. But, I would be fine with Cena, Ryback, or Reigns.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 23, 2014 19:23:42 GMT -5
This is EXACTLY what I was going to say. Ambrose can be bought as a lunatic who will do anything to win. That can be a threat. I don't get the Ryback stuff honestly. I only ever enjoyed him in Rybaxel. It still comes down to this. The man that beats Lesnar becomes THE man. Not just because they would be WWE Champion. But because they beat the Streak Ender, and a man who took Cena THE MAN, and rag dolled his ass. So, Ambrose doesn't deserve that high stage. Rollins doesn't deserve that high Stage. Honestly, no one really deserves that. But, I would be fine with Cena, Ryback, or Reigns. How in any possible way does Ryback and, to a lesser extent, Roman Reigns deserve to be THE MAN over Rollins or Ambrose?
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Post by Planktung on Nov 23, 2014 19:23:57 GMT -5
This is EXACTLY what I was going to say. Ambrose can be bought as a lunatic who will do anything to win. That can be a threat. I don't get the Ryback stuff honestly. I only ever enjoyed him in Rybaxel. It still comes down to this. The man that beats Lesnar becomes THE man. Not just because they would be WWE Champion. But because they beat the Streak Ender, and a man who took Cena THE MAN, and rag dolled his ass. So, Ambrose doesn't deserve that high stage. Rollins doesn't deserve that high Stage. Honestly, no one really deserves that. But, I would be fine with Cena, Ryback, or Reigns. Fair point that I understand. Question, though. If Roman Reigns defeats Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania, but Seth Rollins cashes in immediately afterwards, does anyone still become "the man?"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 19:25:02 GMT -5
This is EXACTLY what I was going to say. Ambrose can be bought as a lunatic who will do anything to win. That can be a threat. I don't get the Ryback stuff honestly. I only ever enjoyed him in Rybaxel. It still comes down to this. The man that beats Lesnar becomes THE man. Not just because they would be WWE Champion. But because they beat the Streak Ender, and a man who took Cena THE MAN, and rag dolled his ass. So, Ambrose doesn't deserve that high stage. Rollins doesn't deserve that high Stage. Honestly, no one really deserves that. But, I would be fine with Cena, Ryback, or Reigns. I agree with this.I just don't think Seth deserves That Push since he screwed so many people over this year and he should not beat Brock Lesnar.Him being with the authority is already a big push for him as it gets. I would be Fine with Roman or Ryback beating Brock Lesnar.
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