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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 14:31:36 GMT -5
Here's what everyone is forgetting about: John Cena. If Brock Lesnar holds the title until WM, then when will John Cena be champion again? I expect sometime between WM and Summerslam we'll see Cena vs. Reigns, Cena wins a hard fought battle and Rollins cashes in on him. Then we get an eventual triple threat or even fourway if you want to throw in Ambrose. Because why would WWE put John Cena into a triple threat match involving The Shield? Because they're WWE and he's John Cena, that's why. I don't see Reigns vs Cena happening until WM 32 at the earliest.
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Post by IRS on Nov 30, 2014 14:57:03 GMT -5
Since it's pretty clear that Reigns IS going to main event 'Mania and win the WWE Title, I'm hoping to death that immediately after he wins, Rollins cashes in to end WM. Seeing as Reigns will be leaving WM as champ, I'd think it strange to hope that Rollins would cash it in at WM, as it'd be a failed cash-in. I disagree. Realistically, what better time would there be for Seth to cash-in? Reigns has just been through a war with Lesnar, and he wins by the skin of his teeth... then Rollins comes out, Curbstomp, two stars made in one night. Knowing WWE, it probably won't happen that way, but I don't think it's the worst idea in the world.
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Post by jacktunney on Nov 30, 2014 15:09:44 GMT -5
I just loath the idea of a cash In at wrestlemania. Actually I just don't like the mitb concept all together
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Post by Planktung on Nov 30, 2014 15:15:06 GMT -5
I've always thought that a Money in the Bank cash-in at WrestleMania would be odd because of the length of the ramp, as dumb as this sounds of me. I'm sure Seth has the conditioning to not be gassed after running it, though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 15:54:07 GMT -5
At least when they pushed Sheamus after being in the WWE for what, 3 months? He was a good heel, good wrestler, was pretty decent on the mic. Reigns is none of those things. Also there were two titles at the time, now there's only one.. It can't just be tossed on anyone
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Post by RybackV1 on Nov 30, 2014 16:00:03 GMT -5
I think Rollins is gonna have to lose his cash in.
Whoever brock puts over at mania 31 (more than likely Reigns) that guy is gonna need a LONGG legitimate title reign. Similar to Cena and Batistas first reigns. Seth will have had to cash in by 4 months after WM31 or else his contract expires. Reigns or whoever goes over will need a title reign a lot longer than 4 months after beating Lesnar
What I would like is wwe to turn rollins mitb case into the Return of the WHC belt and Rollins can run with that baby.
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Post by Infinite on Nov 30, 2014 16:05:14 GMT -5
I think Rollins is gonna have to lose his cash in. Whoever brock puts over at mania 31 (more than likely Reigns) that guy is gonna need a LONGG legitimate title reign. Similar to Cena and Batistas first reigns. Seth will have had to cash in by 4 months after WM31 or else his contract expires. Reigns or whoever goes over will need a title reign a lot longer than 4 months after beating Lesnar What I would like is wwe to turn rollins mitb case into the Return of the WHC belt and Rollins can run with that baby. This could actually be really cool. WWE reinstates the WHC, but before they even announce a match or tournament or whatever for it Rollins walks out and cashes in on ing NOBODY to become champion. Not sure that scenario would actually make total sense, but what a legendary dick move it would be.
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Post by RybackV1 on Nov 30, 2014 16:10:11 GMT -5
I think Rollins is gonna have to lose his cash in. Whoever brock puts over at mania 31 (more than likely Reigns) that guy is gonna need a LONGG legitimate title reign. Similar to Cena and Batistas first reigns. Seth will have had to cash in by 4 months after WM31 or else his contract expires. Reigns or whoever goes over will need a title reign a lot longer than 4 months after beating Lesnar What I would like is wwe to turn rollins mitb case into the Return of the WHC belt and Rollins can run with that baby. This could actually be really cool. WWE reinstates the WHC, but before they even announce a match or tournament or whatever for it Rollins walks out and cashes in on ing NOBODY to become champion. Not sure that scenario would actually make total sense, but what a legendary dick move it would be. I kinda want him to be "handed " the belt like HHH in 02 when ... Hey whaddya know, Lesnar held the belt hostage...I keep seeing signs of early HHH in Seth Rollins as the weeks go by.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 16:20:40 GMT -5
Seeing as Reigns will be leaving WM as champ, I'd think it strange to hope that Rollins would cash it in at WM, as it'd be a failed cash-in. I disagree. Realistically, what better time would there be for Seth to cash-in? Reigns has just been through a war with Lesnar, and he wins by the skin of his teeth... then Rollins comes out, Curbstomp, two stars made in one night. Knowing WWE, it probably won't happen that way, but I don't think it's the worst idea in the world. Reigns is being groomed to be the future face of the company. If Rollins cashes in, it's only to solidify Reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 16:35:08 GMT -5
Here's what everyone is forgetting about: John Cena. If Brock Lesnar holds the title until WM, then when will John Cena be champion again? I expect sometime between WM and Summerslam we'll see Cena vs. Reigns, Cena wins a hard fought battle and Rollins cashes in on him. Then we get an eventual triple threat or even fourway if you want to throw in Ambrose. Because why would WWE put John Cena into a triple threat match involving The Shield? Because they're WWE and he's John Cena, that's why. John Cena isn't going to face Roman Reigns. Why do you want to position your biggest star against the guy who you, unrealistically, believe is going to be his replacement? The answer is you don't. If they can do what they think they can with Roman Reigns then a year from now they can do Cena vs Reigns at Mania. You keep them away from each other though. That way when you do make the match it actually feels special. So you're essentially keeping John Cena out of the title picture in 2015? (Unless he faces Lesnar at the Rumble) Sure, he could build up to Wrestlemania with something else, but after that I don't think WWE will have anything else for him and let him go that long without getting a title shot again. He's their go-to guy for title shots you know. Also, a Reigns/Rollins/Cena (and maybe Ambrose) match would still somewhat save a Reigns/Cena singles match.
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 30, 2014 17:09:03 GMT -5
John Cena isn't going to face Roman Reigns. Why do you want to position your biggest star against the guy who you, unrealistically, believe is going to be his replacement? The answer is you don't. If they can do what they think they can with Roman Reigns then a year from now they can do Cena vs Reigns at Mania. You keep them away from each other though. That way when you do make the match it actually feels special. So you're essentially keeping John Cena out of the title picture in 2015? (Unless he faces Lesnar at the Rumble) Sure, he could build up to Wrestlemania with something else, but after that I don't think WWE will have anything else for him and let him go that long without getting a title shot again. He's their go-to guy for title shots you know. Also, a Reigns/Rollins/Cena (and maybe Ambrose) match would still somewhat save a Reigns/Cena singles match. Cena is facing Brock at the Royal Rumble. Cena is the number one contender. Reigns is going to be champion for the summer, or on-and-off through the summer along with Rollins if there is a successful cash-in. So yeah, Cena is going to be away from the title from Rumble until at least SummerSlam of next year. Reigns is Cena's replacement, why do we need Cena to have the title when Cena 2.0 has it? WWE is spending all of their resources building up the next big star in Roman Reigns and they aren't going to undermine that plan, even with John Cena. I get that Cena has been in the title picture for a decade but he's slowing down. Plus, his next two title wins are going to be a big huge deal, particularly when he actually passes Flair with a 17th win. I expect that moment to come at Mania, likely to a shower of boos haha. EDIT: Cena could also end up working for the title in a Chamber match if that happens. So figure he gets a title shot at EC and then stays away until SummerSlam, give or take. It's not that long of a time period, especially in the Network era where we are currently champion-less.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 20:25:21 GMT -5
So you're essentially keeping John Cena out of the title picture in 2015? (Unless he faces Lesnar at the Rumble) Sure, he could build up to Wrestlemania with something else, but after that I don't think WWE will have anything else for him and let him go that long without getting a title shot again. He's their go-to guy for title shots you know. Also, a Reigns/Rollins/Cena (and maybe Ambrose) match would still somewhat save a Reigns/Cena singles match. Cena is facing Brock at the Royal Rumble. Cena is the number one contender. Reigns is going to be champion for the summer, or on-and-off through the summer along with Rollins if there is a successful cash-in. So yeah, Cena is going to be away from the title from Rumble until at least SummerSlam of next year. Reigns is Cena's replacement, why do we need Cena to have the title when Cena 2.0 has it? WWE is spending all of their resources building up the next big star in Roman Reigns and they aren't going to undermine that plan, even with John Cena. I get that Cena has been in the title picture for a decade but he's slowing down. Plus, his next two title wins are going to be a big huge deal, particularly when he actually passes Flair with a 17th win. I expect that moment to come at Mania, likely to a shower of boos haha. EDIT: Cena could also end up working for the title in a Chamber match if that happens. So figure he gets a title shot at EC and then stays away until SummerSlam, give or take. It's not that long of a time period, especially in the Network era where we are currently champion-less. John Cena never really needs to hold the WWE Title again. He should be spending his time in feuds without the title because he draws just for being Cena and it could help some of the other talent on the card to be buried by him. I personally don't want to see John Cena in another WWE Title match again, my point is that I don't think WWE has much else to do with him or booking logic outside of "Well, it's been a month since Cena challenged him for the title, let's make him number one contender again somehow".
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