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Post by marino13 on Dec 19, 2014 12:15:25 GMT -5
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Post by J12 on Dec 19, 2014 12:22:57 GMT -5
I understand WWE's desire to make Reigns the guy, and I don't even necessarily disagree with it, but he's simply not ready. It was questionable whether or not he was going to be there over the summer when he was healthy. Now, with nearly four months of him sitting on the shelf, it couldn't be more clear. It's going to be rushed. Reigns is young and he's going to be a big star for a long time. Rollins and Ambrose came out of the Shield far more prepared for the spotlight than he did, and they've both had an extra four months to prepare. Would there be any risk to letting him develop another 6-12 months and letting someone else have a big moment at Wrestlemania?
If anything, I just see this backfiring and making people hate Reigns, which is the absolute last thing they need.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 12:24:08 GMT -5
I understand WWE's desire to make Reigns the guy, and I don't even necessarily disagree with it, but he's simply not ready. It was questionable whether or not he was going to be there over the summer when he was healthy. Now, with nearly four months of him sitting on the shelf, it couldn't be more clear. It's going to be rushed. Reigns is young and he's going to be a big star for a long time. Would there be any risk to letting him develop another 6-12 months and letting somewhat else have a big moment at Wrestlemania? If anything, I just see this backfiring and making people hate Reigns, which is the absolute last thing they need.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 12:29:31 GMT -5
That looks like it was written by a 12 year old...
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Dec 19, 2014 12:29:31 GMT -5
This report legit sounds like a forum-goer-turned reporter. Not much news. Again I say in an ideal world it'd be heel Rollins defending against tweener Ambrose and face Reigns at Mania.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Dec 19, 2014 12:30:54 GMT -5
Call me crazy but I actually think that Reigns 'superman push' is all on Vince and not on HHH. I personally think that Bryan was and still can be THE man in WWE. He had the best merchandise sales other than Cena despite having crap merchandise, is the most over guy in the company since Austin/Rock, appeals to people of all ages, good on the mic, great in the ring, has mainstream appeal and has bought the WWE lots of media attention... What else does the man f*cking need?
I'm not a Reigns super hater but having him as the next top guy just because of his look is stupid. WWE should actually give us a new top guy who is a breath of fresh of air and not the same old muscle heads. Bryan or Ambrose would be great.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Dec 19, 2014 12:36:48 GMT -5
I like Reigns and I think its more believeable for him to go over Lesnar than it would be Ambrose. Just cause a young guy is gonna take the title why does that mean he's gonna become the face of the company, until we see Reigns vs Cena for the WWE title with Reigns going over, clean, he wont be face of the company imo.
Have Reigns win and carry the title for a while, for Rollin's to cash in for the win, setting up a series of re-matches Seth vs Reigns with Heyman and J&J Security getting involved. so Reigns still looks strong.
I think the set of The Shield is really good Reigns is a great baby face, Rollins heel and Ambrose can do both really well, and if they're looked after now could go on to be the top face and heels of the company.
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Post by punksnotdead on Dec 19, 2014 12:40:18 GMT -5
I understand WWE's desire to make Reigns the guy, and I don't even necessarily disagree with it, but he's simply not ready. It was questionable whether or not he was going to be there over the summer when he was healthy. Now, with nearly four months of him sitting on the shelf, it couldn't be more clear. It's going to be rushed. Reigns is young and he's going to be a big star for a long time. Rollins and Ambrose came out of the Shield far more prepared for the spotlight than he did, and they've both had an extra four months to prepare. Would there be any risk to letting him develop another 6-12 months and letting someone else have a big moment at Wrestlemania? If anything, I just see this backfiring and making people hate Reigns, which is the absolute last thing they need. Giving him the title too soon is going to make the audience turn on him, quickly. I'm completely convinced this is actually going to happen. We're going to hear boos at the Rumble, and then we're going to hear a bunch of boos at Mania when it's smark heavy. There is absolutely no drawback to holding off on Reigns until SummerSlam, other than Brock won't be able to make him by then. It's not like fans are clamoring to see him face Brock anyway. WWE isn't going to back out of it now. There isn't a Daniel Bryan on the roster forcing them to change the game plan. Ambrose has done everything right, but he hasn't done so much to essentially overcome the stigma of him not being the corporate boyscout. We knew Ambrose was another case of CM Punk in terms of "the package" and management getting behind him. It is what it is imo. Brock was a mistake and now they have to live with that decision, but two wrongs don't make a right. There is a difference between having the next guy arrive and manufacturing the next guy. WWE is trying to force the issue, and they are about to get way too overzealous with Reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 12:43:49 GMT -5
Might as well give Ziggler the push, hes proven he can make it work after working the ing gauntlet at Survivor Series its at least conceivable that he could take on Brock.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 12:49:16 GMT -5
IF he is going to win the rumble, their best bet is to have him eliminate Rollins or Rusev. If it's somebody like Ziggler the crowd will crap all over it.
If they truly want to shock the crowd, give the Rumble to Ziggler.
Long term I believe this Reigns deal is going to blowup in their face.
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Post by Rob on Dec 19, 2014 12:52:07 GMT -5
Reigns can't believably compete with Brock Lesnar. Reigns isn't an established singles worker, He needs alot of time to establish himself as one. He just started wrestling in 2010, Spent alot of that time being sheltered under Rollins/Ambrose and just broke out on his own a few months ago, just to get injured and spent several weeks off.
WWE is going to ruin Roman Reigns. Hell, The guy hasn't even won the mid card title yet. Austin/Rock/Cena all won mid card titles before moving onto the main event. Shooting him to the top is going to hurt him so bad in the long run. Just look at Del Rio and Sheamus. You'd think WWE would learn.
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Post by J12 on Dec 19, 2014 12:52:23 GMT -5
I understand WWE's desire to make Reigns the guy, and I don't even necessarily disagree with it, but he's simply not ready. It was questionable whether or not he was going to be there over the summer when he was healthy. Now, with nearly four months of him sitting on the shelf, it couldn't be more clear. It's going to be rushed. Reigns is young and he's going to be a big star for a long time. Rollins and Ambrose came out of the Shield far more prepared for the spotlight than he did, and they've both had an extra four months to prepare. Would there be any risk to letting him develop another 6-12 months and letting someone else have a big moment at Wrestlemania? If anything, I just see this backfiring and making people hate Reigns, which is the absolute last thing they need. Giving him the title too soon is going to make the audience turn on him, quickly. I'm completely convinced this is actually going to happen. We're going to hear boos at the Rumble, and then we're going to hear a bunch of boos at Mania when it's smark heavy. There is absolutely no drawback to holding off on Reigns until SummerSlam, other than Brock won't be able to make him by then. It's not like fans are clamoring to see him face Brock anyway. WWE isn't going to back out of it now. There isn't a Daniel Bryan on the roster forcing them to change the game plan. Ambrose has done everything right, but he hasn't done so much to essentially overcome the stigma of him not being the corporate boyscout. We knew Ambrose was another case of CM Punk in terms of "the package" and management getting behind him. It is what it is imo. Brock was a mistake and now they have to live with that decision, but two wrongs don't make a right. There is a difference between having the next guy arrive and manufacturing the next guy. WWE is trying to force the issue, and they are about to get way too overzealous with Reigns. That, to me, is the key. WWE doesn't seem to like when the audience more or less creates a push. They don't want it to happen organically. They want to ensure that it happens because they tell the audience to make it happen, creating the illusion of crowd participation, so to speak. It's a vicious cycle to be trapped in, and it does no one any favors. You have Wrestler A who is achieving massive reactions organically, but WWE wants that reaction for Wrestler B. To try to sway the crowd, they put Wrestler A on the backburner and overload the show with Wrestler B hoping that more exposure = more cheers. The fans see through the stunt, and they turn on Wrestler B, who was probably pretty well-liked before the manipulation started. In turn, they cheer for Wrestler A harder and get even more disgruntled when WWE continues to shift the focus away from him. It happened with Punk, it happened with Bryan (until they simply couldn't ignore it anymore), and it's about to happen again.
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Post by Mr. McCluer on Dec 19, 2014 12:57:52 GMT -5
I understand WWE's desire to make Reigns the guy, and I don't even necessarily disagree with it, but he's simply not ready. It was questionable whether or not he was going to be there over the summer when he was healthy. Now, with nearly four months of him sitting on the shelf, it couldn't be more clear. It's going to be rushed. Reigns is young and he's going to be a big star for a long time. Rollins and Ambrose came out of the Shield far more prepared for the spotlight than he did, and they've both had an extra four months to prepare. Would there be any risk to letting him develop another 6-12 months and letting someone else have a big moment at Wrestlemania? If anything, I just see this backfiring and making people hate Reigns, which is the absolute last thing they need. Agreed well said.
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Post by Word™ on Dec 19, 2014 13:06:18 GMT -5
That looks like it was written by a 12 year old...
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Post by The Yes Man on Dec 19, 2014 13:12:16 GMT -5
Roman Reigns just isn't ready. It's that simple.
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Post by RybackV1 on Dec 19, 2014 13:34:01 GMT -5
So Reigns isn't ready and they are aware. And their #2 is Ambrose??
Can you imagine Ambrose vs Lesnar at WM 31 Ambrose wins the belt
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 13:34:36 GMT -5
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Post by hbkowns on Dec 19, 2014 13:36:45 GMT -5
If anybody is ready it's certainly Ambrose. He's by far more over than Reigns. He does better in merch, better in the ring, better on the mic, and doesn't feel force fed. SO WHY THE HELL DO THEY HAVE SUCH A HARD ON FOR THE REIGNS PUSH!? Just because he has lineage? Just because he has "The Look"? Doesn't make any sense. Listen to your audience Vince. Look at the merch sales. Get a clue.
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Post by hbkowns on Dec 19, 2014 13:40:12 GMT -5
So Reigns isn't ready and they are aware. And their #2 is Ambrose?? Can you imagine Ambrose vs Lesnar at WM 31 Ambrose wins the belt Ambrose vs Lesnar would be awesome. Reigns isn't ready at all. And who cares if Ambrose isn't believable enough to beat Lesnar? Stranger things have happened. Ambrose some how pulls off a miracle victory over Brock after getting the sh*t kicked out of him. BOOM! You have a new top star.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 13:40:28 GMT -5
So Reigns isn't ready and they are aware. And their #2 is Ambrose?? Can you imagine Ambrose vs Lesnar at WM 31 Ambrose wins the belt Yeah it would be a huge mistake.
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