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Post by RybackV1 on Dec 19, 2014 14:33:41 GMT -5
Honestly, Luger or Gunn in their prime would be a great canidate to knock Lesnar off. But without proper time travel looks like that isn't happening. Luger had the look but he was awful. Gunn was just terrible. Disagree but your avy is pure awesome
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Post by WWE Common Terry on Dec 19, 2014 14:34:05 GMT -5
Can't they just spray tan Adam Rose and have him replace Roman. They look incidental besides their tans.
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Post by Chip on Dec 19, 2014 14:42:07 GMT -5
I still don't understand how Reigns has "the look"
he's no bigger or smaller than Rollins or Ambrose. He has long hair and he's sorta tan looking. Like what is so special about him over anyone else?
absolutely nothing.
ooooh he can jump 4ft in the air and do a kick. 90% of the roster can do that. He "cocks" his fist and hits a punch....it's been done 3000 times in the UFC already he does a spear, the spear sucks as a finisher and it's THE most generic move in history besides a bodyslam.
There is absolutely NOTHING special about Roman Reigns. He's an average worker, who has been BOOKED to look like a god among men. They could have done that with absolutely ANYONE on the roster. Instead of jobbing Ambrose out at every PPV this year He could have been winning a lot and people LOVING it.
I'm sure Reigns is a good dude. He seems to genuinely love this business and he obviously wants to be the best. But so do a LOT of other guys, and there is absolutely literally NOTHING more "special or unique" about Reigns than anyone else. They are going to force him at us whether we like it or not and it's going to be absolutely ABYSMAL to watch
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Post by Infinite on Dec 19, 2014 14:43:26 GMT -5
There are ways round this. Ambrose could be the guy to beat Brock if they wanted him to. All you have to do is tell the right story in the right way and build the guy up well enough. Hell, if they did it right I think Ziggler could.
Bryan beat Cena a year and a half ago and we all loved it. Hardly the most believable thing in the world though, was it?
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Post by Infinite on Dec 19, 2014 14:45:50 GMT -5
I still don't understand how Reigns has "the look" he's no bigger or smaller than Rollins or Ambrose. He has long hair and he's sorta tan looking. Like what is so special about him over anyone else? absolutely nothing. ooooh he can jump 4ft in the air and do a kick. 90% of the roster can do that. He "cocks" his fist and hits a punch....it's been done 3000 times in the UFC already he does a spear, the spear sucks as a finisher and it's THE most generic move in history besides a bodyslam. There is absolutely NOTHING special about Roman Reigns. He's an average worker, who has been BOOKED to look like a god among men. They could have done that with absolutely ANYONE on the roster. Instead of jobbing Ambrose out at every PPV this year He could have been winning a lot and people LOVING it. I'm sure Reigns is a good dude. He seems to genuinely love this business and he obviously wants to be the best. But so do a LOT of other guys, and there is absolutely literally NOTHING more "special or unique" about Reigns than anyone else. They are going to force him at us whether we like it or not and it's going to be absolutely ABYSMAL to watch He's pretty ing handsome basically. I think that has a hell of a lot to do with it to be honest. (No homo)
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Post by PJ on Dec 19, 2014 14:47:16 GMT -5
So Reigns isn't ready and they are aware. And their #2 is Ambrose?? Can you imagine Ambrose vs Lesnar at WM 31 Ambrose wins the belt Yeah, Ambrose does that stupid fall/spring between the ropes clothesline to Brock and then hit him with the girl fight fist pounding beatdown he likes to do. And we are supposed to believe Brock would fall for the clothesline and get hurt by the worst looking beatdown in the WWE. No Thanks. Neither Ambrose or Reigns are ready for the title. But if so had to pick one of the two to sit though it would be Reigns. To me Ambrose is to much of a gimmick wrestler in a serious spot. And as long as Ambrose continues to do those moves mentioned above and make those goofy expressions I can't take him seriously as a threat to the title. If he just changed those three things I could see him being more of a threat than Reigns.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Dec 19, 2014 14:49:40 GMT -5
Ambrose is believable in the WWE universe, and I mean that in the world they created, not what they call fans. Ambrose has taken exploding TVs, his head driven through cinder blocks, and I'm sure getting hit by a car isn't far off. He's being touted as insane and almost indestructible, kind of makes sense to throw him against Lesnar. Yeah he can take a beating and is out of his mind but he dosent win. He loses while looking strong. At least ever since his singles career started. Now all of the sudden he's gonna get the biggest win that anyone's got in a longggg time ? Idk man. Just can't see it. I can see anything in WWE at this point. Rowan recently went from loving cats, to a member of Team Cena, to being called a member of MENSA. I guess my argument is, who better to beat Lesnar than someone out of their mind? Yeah he loses but if the dirt sheets are true, it's to make Wyatt a threat to the Undertaker because they spent the rest of this year ruining that. They could also easily make it a triple threat with Rollins deciding to cash in. I think there's ways to make that angle work, WWE just has to actually write a ing show to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 14:51:14 GMT -5
Honestly, Luger or Gunn in their prime would be a great canidate to knock Lesnar off. But without proper time travel looks like that isn't happening. Luger had the look but he was awful. Gunn was just terrible. No way was he awful. He knew how to work. Billy was all around fantastic. Oozing charisma, fantastic look, great worker, over as hell, he just couldn't outtalk the Rock (who could?) and ended up looking like crap in comparison.
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Post by Self-Savior on Dec 19, 2014 14:53:38 GMT -5
I think I may be in the minority here being that I have no problem with Reigns winning the Rumble at all; he's got the look that Vince creams his pants over and not every guy needs to be a technical masterpiece in the ring.
As much as I like Ambrose, there's no way that he'd be a credible threat against Lesnar; same with Rollins. It would more than likely be booked like the Cena/Lesnar Summerslam match with beat downs and a bunch of consecutive German suplexes.
I only wonder how the fans at the Rumble will react and hopefully it won't be a smattering of boos like it was this year for Batista.
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Post by Orlando Wrestling on Dec 19, 2014 14:56:23 GMT -5
If he isn't ready, don't do it. It won't hurt to wait till the time is right.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 19, 2014 14:58:47 GMT -5
Luger had the look but he was awful. Gunn was just terrible. No way was he awful. He knew how to work. Billy was all around fantastic. Oozing charisma, fantastic look, great worker, over as hell, he just couldn't outtalk the Rock (who could?) and ended up looking like crap in comparison. See, I felt that Luger couldn't work. And Billy? Had no charisma, only leeched off of Road Dogg and later, DX. He had a good look but showing your ass all the time makes it hard to take you serious. I thought he was a crap worker as a majority of his singles matches sucked. He was over while with Road Dogg and DX. As Mr. Ass, he wasn't that over and especially less as "The One".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 15:20:25 GMT -5
No way was he awful. He knew how to work. Billy was all around fantastic. Oozing charisma, fantastic look, great worker, over as hell, he just couldn't outtalk the Rock (who could?) and ended up looking like crap in comparison. See, I felt that Luger couldn't work. And Billy? Had no charisma, only leeched off of Road Dogg and later, DX. He had a good look but showing your ass all the time makes it hard to take you serious. I thought he was a crap worker as a majority of his singles matches sucked. He was over while with Road Dogg and DX. As Mr. Ass, he wasn't that over and especially less as "The One". I think Bret described Luger perfectly in his book. He described him as a competent worker who knew what he was doing, but stuck to the basics. He had some great matches in his career. I think he's comparable to HHH, someone who has entertaining matches, but doesn't need to do much to make them that way. As for Billy? Dude was over by himself, no question about that. Great worker too, I'd put him at a step lower than guys like Bret, Angle, Hennig and Owen.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Dec 19, 2014 15:21:11 GMT -5
Whoever they go with, it'll lead to certain types of fan either turning on them or pretending they're being buried.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 15:24:21 GMT -5
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 19, 2014 15:26:17 GMT -5
See, I felt that Luger couldn't work. And Billy? Had no charisma, only leeched off of Road Dogg and later, DX. He had a good look but showing your ass all the time makes it hard to take you serious. I thought he was a crap worker as a majority of his singles matches sucked. He was over while with Road Dogg and DX. As Mr. Ass, he wasn't that over and especially less as "The One". I think Bret described Luger perfectly in his book. He described him as a competent worker who knew what he was doing, but stuck to the basics. He had some great matches in his career. I think he's comparable to HHH, someone who has entertaining matches, but doesn't need to do much to make them that way. As for Billy? Dude was over by himself, no question about that. Great worker too, I'd put him at a step lower than guys like Bret, Angle, Hennig and Owen. He does seem more over than I remember, though again, that was after he leeched off of more talented/over guys throughout his career. And I would clearly put him about 10 steps below the guys you mentioned. Agree to disagree I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 15:31:20 GMT -5
Roman Reigns blows.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 15:32:39 GMT -5
I think Bret described Luger perfectly in his book. He described him as a competent worker who knew what he was doing, but stuck to the basics. He had some great matches in his career. I think he's comparable to HHH, someone who has entertaining matches, but doesn't need to do much to make them that way. As for Billy? Dude was over by himself, no question about that. Great worker too, I'd put him at a step lower than guys like Bret, Angle, Hennig and Owen. He does seem more over than I remember, though again, that was after he leeched off of more talented/over guys throughout his career. And I would clearly put him about 10 steps below the guys you mentioned. Agree to disagree I guess. I think that's a little unfair (the first part). You could say that the only reason Bret got anywhere is because he leeched off Jim (who carried the Harts in the early days, Bret even admits that himself). Or that Shawn was only despised as a heel for attacking Marty Jannetty. Road Dogg isn't in that match, and the crowd is hot for Billy. You can hear the disappointement in the crowd when HHH kicks out. It's fair enough if you don't like him though.
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Post by Chip on Dec 19, 2014 15:32:51 GMT -5
only differences here is skin tone, and hair
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Post by Sleazyness on Dec 19, 2014 15:43:50 GMT -5
Call me crazy but I actually think that Reigns 'superman push' is all on Vince and not on HHH. I personally think that Bryan was and still can be THE man in WWE. He had the best merchandise sales other than Cena despite having crap merchandise, is the most over guy in the company since Austin/Rock, appeals to people of all ages, good on the mic, great in the ring, has mainstream appeal and has bought the WWE lots of media attention... What else does the man f*cking need? I'm not a Reigns super hater but having him as the next top guy just because of his look is stupid. WWE should actually give us a new top guy who is a breath of fresh of air and not the same old muscle heads. Bryan or Ambrose would be great. I don't doubt it. It's only a matter of time until Vince looks at NXT and realizes Triple H knows what he is doing. Only then will he finally move away from the past. He needs to recognize that the industry is changing and that a new crop of talent is arising. With the way the new talent is, I personally think Reigns doesn't fit the mold in the long run.
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Post by TeamratedCDS on Dec 19, 2014 15:48:40 GMT -5
I like both but when I think of Brock vs Roman I just don't see it working out. Brock vs Dean just seems like the better match and I'm sure it'd be an awesome main event. Hell if they don't want that to be the main event the. They can always have Sting vs HHH main event it. I'd rather see Brock vs Dean, Reigns vs Rollins to be honest.
But we will most likely get Brock vs Roman, Orton vs Rollins and Dean who the hell knows.
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