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Post by Infinite on Dec 20, 2014 16:41:35 GMT -5
LOL at any WWE calling them spot monkeys. while WWE tag team division is built around the Uso's The Usos are alright, but I don't think they bring anything to the table in the ring that the Bucks couldn't do better. IMO people are sometimes too quick to give people credit for superior psychology just because they work the WWE's slower, safer style.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 16:49:00 GMT -5
LOL at any WWE calling them spot monkeys. while WWE tag team division is built around the Uso's The Usos are alright, but I don't think they bring anything to the table in the ring that the Bucks couldn't do better. IMO people are sometimes too quick to give people credit for superior psychology just because they work the WWE's slower, safer style. The Usos have superior psychology then the Young Bucks. You know why? Because the young bucks don't have any in ring psychology. It's just big spot, after big spot after big spot. This thread isn't even about whether or not the Young Bucks are spot monkeys so I'll stop here
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Post by Infinite on Dec 20, 2014 16:59:58 GMT -5
The Usos are alright, but I don't think they bring anything to the table in the ring that the Bucks couldn't do better. IMO people are sometimes too quick to give people credit for superior psychology just because they work the WWE's slower, safer style. The Usos have superior psychology then the Young Bucks. You know why? Because the young bucks don't have any in ring psychology. It's just big spot, after big spot after big spot. This thread isn't even about whether or not the Young Bucks are spot monkeys so I'll stop here I'm with you, but what are the Usos doing that's any different? To me they're always just stalling until it's finish time where they get to start kicking and jumping. It's not like they're telling any sort of story out there so it's difficult to give them much credit for simply not doing some of the stupid stuff the Bucks do, especially when the trade off for the Young Bucks' stupid stuff is that you get some genuinely cool, inventive, ridiculous spots.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 17:03:48 GMT -5
The Usos have superior psychology then the Young Bucks. You know why? Because the young bucks don't have any in ring psychology. It's just big spot, after big spot after big spot. This thread isn't even about whether or not the Young Bucks are spot monkeys so I'll stop here I'm with you, but what are the Usos doing that's any different? To me they're always just stalling until it's finish time where they get to start kicking and jumping. It's not like they're telling any sort of story out there so it's difficult to give them much credit for simply not doing some of the stupid stuff the Bucks do, especially when the trade off for the Young Bucks' stupid stuff is that you get some genuinely cool, inventive, ridiculous spots. It's been a while since I've sat through one of the Uso's matches but they don't go overboard on the spots. They use superkicks yes, they flip yes, but not every move they do is some ridiculous spot or flip like the Bucks
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Post by Hurricane on Dec 20, 2014 17:09:09 GMT -5
"Endless feuds with The Usos and Goldust/Stardust"
I love how everyone seems to forget that Edge and Christian, The Hardy Boyz and The Dudley Boyz had endless feuds together in variations. And you can't turn around and say "at least they had good matches", because like them or not, The Usos and Goldust/Stardust deliver every single time in the ring.
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Post by HHH316 on Dec 20, 2014 17:42:06 GMT -5
At this point in their careers, I think turning down WWE is a smart move. They are SO in demand right now, that they'll make much more money on the indies than in developmental. Maybe when they feel like they want to tone things down, they could consider WWE. But if their bodies can handle this right now, stay the course.
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Post by BØRNS on Dec 20, 2014 18:13:09 GMT -5
The Young Bucks are better than the WWE.
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Dec 20, 2014 18:23:25 GMT -5
Young Bucks are tag team wrestling. The stuff they can do is great. The Young Bucks have made tag team wrestling something again.
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Post by HVMMONS on Dec 20, 2014 21:12:21 GMT -5
"Endless feuds with The Usos and Goldust/Stardust" I love how everyone seems to forget that Edge and Christian, The Hardy Boyz and The Dudley Boyz had endless feuds together in variations. And you can't turn around and say "at least they had good matches", because like them or not, The Usos and Goldust/Stardust deliver every single time in the ring. If you're saying that endless feuds between The Uso's and Goldust and Stardust are the same between The Dudleyz, The Hardyz, and E&C, you are very, very wrong. The 3 team domination during the early 2000s revolutionized mainstream tag team wrestling. The Uso's and Stardust & Goldust may deliver every time in the ring, but they're far from the mountain top where The Dudleyz, E&C, and The Hardyz delivered. They shouldn't even be in the same conversation. As far as matches, I've not been impressed with The Uso's, or Goldust and Stardust. The Uso's are VERY bland. To quote Infinite, to me they're always just stalling until it's finish time where they get to start kicking and jumping. It's not like they're telling any sort of story out there so it's difficult to give them much credit. As far as Goldust, and Stardust, I'm just glad WWE turned them heel. They would've flopped as a face team.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Dec 21, 2014 22:52:43 GMT -5
I don't see how they could be offered a tryout. They take no selling and spot matches to a whole new level. Turrible.
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Post by Lk™ on Dec 21, 2014 22:59:06 GMT -5
over-rated in what way? they might be over exposed, and over hyped.. but overall they are extremely entertaining imo I disagree. I find them to be nothing special. Are they bad? No. Are they extremely overrated by the internet? Yes. I totally agree. If i had never watched them, i'd be jaded about them already. But, having seen them live many times, and spoke to them many times, these guys are a rarity in the business now that just "get it". Not just in the ring, but they work the crowd so well, and are constantly changing. That's just my opinion, though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 23:33:48 GMT -5
I disagree. I find them to be nothing special. Are they bad? No. Are they extremely overrated by the internet? Yes. I totally agree. If i had never watched them, i'd be jaded about them already. But, having seen them live many times, and spoke to them many times, these guys are a rarity in the business now that just "get it". Not just in the ring, but they work the crowd so well, and are constantly changing. That's just my opinion, though. I've watched them countless times and have met them as well more than a few occasions. To me, they're nothing special. They're just a couple of guys that go spot to spot without care for psychology. Just my opinion, they're not worth the hype.
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Post by Tyler Black on Dec 21, 2014 23:36:59 GMT -5
to everyone calling the Bucks spot monkeys, watch this match between the bucks and one of THE most successful tag teams of all time. The bucks are spot monkeys in PWG ONLY, because that's the style and type of fan they are catering to. Watch this, or there new Japan work and then tell me every match is big spot after big spot
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 23:47:24 GMT -5
to everyone calling the Bucks spot monkeys, watch this match between the bucks and one of THE most successful tag teams of all time. The bucks are spot monkeys in PWG ONLY, because that's the style and type of fan they are catering to. Watch this, or there new Japan work and then tell me every match is big spot after big spot That match was great, thank you! The Hardyz need to get back to WWE already!
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Dec 22, 2014 0:27:03 GMT -5
It's disappointing to hear this cause I do like the Young Bucks and it would have been awesome to have seen them on NXT. However, I respect their decision. I just hope they don't regret this decision when they do decide they want to go to WWE and WWE's not interested.
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Post by A-Rob on Dec 22, 2014 1:49:38 GMT -5
i'm sure the Bucks are making more money now then they would if they were to go to NXT also they turned down Lucha Underground, when they went to TNA it kinda left a bad taste in their mouths.
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