Randy Savage and Vince McMahon

I’ve been thinking about this forever, and I think I can make some good guesses to fill in the gaps of what we know. I don’t buy the Stephanie stuff, especially not after they started all the merchandise, even a statue. You don’t commission a statue of a man who did that to your daughter, not even Vince. That aside it’s often looked at from the view of McMahon holding a grudge against Randy, but I think there’s something to say about Savage and his resentments.


1. The old timers battle royal. Didn’t know this until Lanny revealed it. For those who don’t know, according to our friend the Genius, Savage asked Vince to let his father Angelo be in an untelevised legends battle royal and Vince said no. The match was all old timers and Angelo really wanted to be in it to see his old friends, so Randy promised him he would get him in, and then couldn’t. Following this Lanny says Randy told him ‘I thought WWF was a family, but it’s not so from now on we’re just here to make money.’ Lanny claims Randy punched a hole in a wall and said he should have tried harder about the battle royal when his father died, that’s like olympic level grudge holding.

2. Firing Steamboat after THAT program and match, the most important of Savage’s career at that point. He put him over huge and it got flushed and the belt was given to HTM instead, seemed like a joke. A joke I ended up enjoying because Honky was a great performer in his own way, and the payoff to the joke was that great SS 88 moment with Warrior.

3. Vince firing Warrior after he put him over huge. Randy goes into the announce chair, Warrior is fired, Randy comes back, off steroids and picks up the Jake Roberts/Undertaker feud Warrior dropped. Then Jake is fired too. I don’t really know if he found firing Steamboat and Warrior insulting, but I think it’s a pretty good guess, after all the energy Savage put into putting them over and Vince does it again after Warrior just kicked out of 5 elbows? lol

4. Savage following the rules by getting off steroids and wearing a shirt, followed by Vince perceiving him as too old, while Warrior, Sid, and Luger kept on obviously breaking the rules. Plus, Randy looks too old but Flair and Hogan don’t? Randy had just put on one of the most amazing years in wrestling feuding with Warrior, Roberts and Flair, what was there for him to prove at that point?

5. The sudden end of the Ultimate Maniacs, once again Vince fires Warrior while working with Randy on something awesome.

6. Randy’s proposed program with HBK is rejected.

7. All the trash talk from all the wrestlers including the Billionaire Ted stuff about Liz, and Savage’s removal from WWE history, even more so than Warrior. I just watched WM17 again, and was surprised to see Warrior is featured prominently in the opening. Even Steamboat and Flair never talked warmly about their matches with him until after he died. I could see that as being heartbreaking to him.

The info new to me about the announcing position from the new dvd is that Savage himself says he wasn’t in his right mind in that period following the divorce and needed a break. But then he wanted to come back and was refused, so he left. You’d think he’d tell Vince, let me wrestle or I’m leaving, but communication probably wasn’t there. Most of the matches Savage had besides Crush at the end went no where, random stuff with Repo and Doink. instead of vs Hart, Michaels, Razor etc. then he’d go back to the chair. It's a shame we never really got to hear from him about much of anything.