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Post by k5 on Jan 10, 2015 1:27:44 GMT -5
it didn't impact it either way for me. negatives and positives equally before and during the internets existence.
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Post by J12 on Jan 10, 2015 2:21:25 GMT -5
Eh, I got into wrestling in December of '98 and ate, slept, and breathed it until around 2004 or so before calming down to where I'm at now. During that time, I spent countless hours on AFR, WF, and various dirtsheets, and I never felt like my enjoyment of the show suffered because of it. I was enthralled.
I can still be enthralled by a great show now, but they're few and far between. The Internet has certainly impacted wrestling negatively, but it's opened up some doors for it as well.
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Post by BØRNS on Jan 10, 2015 3:12:42 GMT -5
The internet killed pro wrestling. Yes.
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Post by Valbroski on Jan 10, 2015 3:19:42 GMT -5
100%
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 4:34:07 GMT -5
Yep.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 7:26:04 GMT -5
I haven't read dirtsheets since 2009, so the surprise is largely still there unless people on here spoil things through their titles. Before using the internet my thoughts on wrestling were much simpler, and I didn't appreciate it like I do now. Without the internet, I wouldn't be able to watch New Japan nor interact with other like-minded people on the internet.
In conclusion: Spoilers, yes. Otherwise, no.
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Jan 10, 2015 8:34:42 GMT -5
If it wasn't got the Internet I would of never found the indies and NJPW
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Post by The Future on Jan 10, 2015 9:20:26 GMT -5
More than anything, I think the de-mystification of wrestling has to do with us growing up.
Firstly, many of the kids on this site (I say kids because there are plenty of obvious 12-19 year olds) post with favorite wrestlers in mind and to some extent still believe in Kayfabe. I know when I first began watching my joy was exponentially greater each Monday, Friday or PPV because the Hardyz, Jericho, the Rock, etc. put that smile on my face. I was intelligent enough to know there was a formula to wrestling, and know it was scripted and not care. About three weeks into me starting to watch wrestling, a friend told me about some wrestling rumor sites and I got hooked on AFR-- which ultimately led me to WFigs.
I wouldn't say that the internet is responsible. Adults are responsible. The ones who want to play contrarian, who seek spoilers for everything (something I'd do for SD! even when I was 14), who want to chalk everything up to the product being subpar, or Vince being senile, or the PG rating. We once lived in harmony with a much worse product in the days of Macho Man and Warrior. The product was hot garbage then, but you were just too enchanted by the magic of these larger-than-life humans to care. You grow up and become cynical. You look for things to nitpick. You trash the divas (although the division was infinitely more a joke with Sable, the Kat, Tori, Mae Young-- really all those women but Chyna) and lament the loss of gimmicks like a Hardcore title, characters like Crash Holly, The Godfather, Val Venis, etc...but when the present day equivalent exists in an Adam Rose & the Bunny, or they pitch Neville being portrayed as an ultimate underdog, you cry that it's cheesy. What's changed? You've changed. We don't view the world in the same NES-tinted lenses we did as kids when the music on the radio was ours, when we didn't know movies were full of actors (and not actual omnipresent accounts of events), when we dressed up like our heroes for Halloween.
These days, everyone just wants to know more than the next person, to prove their superior lexicon of terms or dearth of knowledge. We look back on eras that honestly were probably worse than this in terms of characters, writing, production values and definitely match quality (with a few exceptions) and because we now are critics of EVERYTHING, we can't enjoy it.
This is why I don't read comments sections or nitpick the responses to film reviews before I see them myself. I want to form my own opinion. I want the magic to be present when I see the Millennium Falcon, as it was when I first did (and the SFX were way more obvious), I want to believe that Groot is a real thing, not Vin Diesel (because he lives in my heart, WE are Groot), I don't care to know what scenes were deleted from Interstellar or the tiniest inconsistencies. I never picked apart the flaws of Jurassic Park, JAWS or Batman Forever when I was younger, so why should those things ruin my enjoyment of those films now?
To put it plainly, the internet (IWC) hasn't ruined wrestling, our changing perspective has tainted it for most of us forever.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 11:06:18 GMT -5
By f*ck your right...... it was WAY more fun.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 11:33:24 GMT -5
Yeah. It was.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 12:00:48 GMT -5
More than anything, I think the de-mystification of wrestling has to do with us growing up. Firstly, many of the kids on this site (I say kids because there are plenty of obvious 12-19 year olds) post with favorite wrestlers in mind and to some extent still believe in Kayfabe. I know when I first began watching my joy was exponentially greater each Monday, Friday or PPV because the Hardyz, Jericho, the Rock, etc. put that smile on my face. I was intelligent enough to know there was a formula to wrestling, and know it was scripted and not care. About three weeks into me starting to watch wrestling, a friend told me about some wrestling rumor sites and I got hooked on AFR-- which ultimately led me to WFigs. I wouldn't say that the internet is responsible. Adults are responsible. The ones who want to play contrarian, who seek spoilers for everything (something I'd do for SD! even when I was 14), who want to chalk everything up to the product being subpar, or Vince being senile, or the PG rating. We once lived in harmony with a much worse product in the days of Macho Man and Warrior. The product was hot garbage then, but you were just too enchanted by the magic of these larger-than-life humans to care. You grow up and become cynical. You look for things to nitpick. You trash the divas (although the division was infinitely more a joke with Sable, the Kat, Tori, Mae Young-- really all those women but Chyna) and lament the loss of gimmicks like a Hardcore title, characters like Crash Holly, The Godfather, Val Venis, etc...but when the present day equivalent exists in an Adam Rose & the Bunny, or they pitch Neville being portrayed as an ultimate underdog, you cry that it's cheesy. What's changed? You've changed. We don't view the world in the same NES-tinted lenses we did as kids when the music on the radio was ours, when we didn't know movies were full of actors (and not actual omnipresent accounts of events), when we dressed up like our heroes for Halloween. These days, everyone just wants to know more than the next person, to prove their superior lexicon of terms or dearth of knowledge. We look back on eras that honestly were probably worse than this in terms of characters, writing, production values and definitely match quality (with a few exceptions) and because we now are critics of EVERYTHING, we can't enjoy it. This is why I don't read comments sections or nitpick the responses to film reviews before I see them myself. I want to form my own opinion. I want the magic to be present when I see the Millennium Falcon, as it was when I first did (and the SFX were way more obvious), I want to believe that Groot is a real thing, not Vin Diesel (because he lives in my heart, WE are Groot), I don't care to know what scenes were deleted from Interstellar or the tiniest inconsistencies. I never picked apart the flaws of Jurassic Park, JAWS or Batman Forever when I was younger, so why should those things ruin my enjoyment of those films now? To put it plainly, the internet (IWC) hasn't ruined wrestling, our changing perspective has tainted it for most of us forever. Brought a tear to my eye.
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