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Post by Mox on Feb 7, 2015 16:41:47 GMT -5
So much young talent and so few mid card feuds. Gotta give people those RAW recaps to fill three hours. You don't want people to forget what happened with the one storyline that's been playing out for months. Wait, Rollins is the bad guy, right? And Cena's the good guy? Jesus, who's this Reigns guy? Too much, WWE! We can't keep up!
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Post by famdamuxwl on Feb 7, 2015 17:46:27 GMT -5
When I see a title like this and your name next to it, I feel it can't be good. However, you do have a few valid points in this one. Im also a diehard Patriots fan :-)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 17:47:41 GMT -5
I get that it may not consist of many people, but this is easily one of the most talented rosters the WWE has ever had. Eh. Not really. There are some talented dudes (Cena, Bryan, Rollins etc), but I'd say the talent pool is significantly more shallow than it has been previously. 90% of the roster is too similar, and very few people on the have the ability to cut a passable promo. Punk leaving certainly hasn't helped things. If you think about in the AE, we had guys like Shamrock, Gunn, X-Pac, Jarrett, Owen, Hardys, Jericho, Guerrero, Benoit, E&C etc etc being mid carders that's how stacked the roster was then. Everyone was different, everyone was trained to work a different style (not the "WWE style") and that's very important in the overall package. Right now we have Cena, then we have the other elite, and then there's a major gap between them and anyone below them.
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Post by IRS on Feb 7, 2015 17:56:01 GMT -5
I know how to fix WWE's problems too: don't make stupid booking decisions that piss off the fanbase.
Seems simple enough, no?
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 7, 2015 17:58:19 GMT -5
Or, they can just put NXT on television, make it two hours, and the world is happy. If NXT was two hours and on television, it would be a very different show. Triple H said in the interview with Austin that NXT is booked the way it is because he knows the audience for it is hardcore Internet fans. It can get away with that on WWE network. It couldn't get away with it as a primetime TV show.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 7, 2015 18:02:14 GMT -5
I know how to fix WWE's problems too: don't make stupid booking decisions that piss off the fanbase. Seems simple enough, no? Impossible to quantify. When "stupid booking decisions that piss off the fanbase" means "not having Daniel Bryan win the title match every night" then it would be very short-sighted of them to follow that rule. If Daniel Bryan never lost, he'd be SuperBryan and Bryanwinslol.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 7, 2015 18:02:53 GMT -5
I get that it may not consist of many people, but this is easily one of the most talented rosters the WWE has ever had. Eh. Not really. There are some talented dudes (Cena, Bryan, Rollins etc), but I'd say the talent pool is significantly more shallow than it has been previously. 90% of the roster is too similar, and very few people on the have the ability to cut a passable promo. Punk leaving certainly hasn't helped things. If you think about in the AE, we had guys like Shamrock, Gunn, X-Pac, Jarrett, Owen, Hardys, Jericho, Guerrero, Benoit, E&C etc etc being mid carders that's how stacked the roster was then. Everyone was different, everyone was trained to work a different style (not the "WWE style") and that's very important in the overall package. Right now we have Cena, then we have the other elite, and then there's a major gap between them and anyone below them. I'm not even gonna get into this. I'm gonna say there are talented guys like Dean Ambrose, Cody Rhodes, etc. and your post has Billy Gunn and Jeff Jarrett listed proving once again that we see talent EXTREMELY differently.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 18:13:24 GMT -5
Eh. Not really. There are some talented dudes (Cena, Bryan, Rollins etc), but I'd say the talent pool is significantly more shallow than it has been previously. 90% of the roster is too similar, and very few people on the have the ability to cut a passable promo. Punk leaving certainly hasn't helped things. If you think about in the AE, we had guys like Shamrock, Gunn, X-Pac, Jarrett, Owen, Hardys, Jericho, Guerrero, Benoit, E&C etc etc being mid carders that's how stacked the roster was then. Everyone was different, everyone was trained to work a different style (not the "WWE style") and that's very important in the overall package. Right now we have Cena, then we have the other elite, and then there's a major gap between them and anyone below them. I'm not even gonna get into this. I'm gonna say there are talented guys like Dean Ambrose, Cody Rhodes, etc. and your post has Billy Gunn and Jeff Jarrett listed proving once again that we see talent EXTREMELY differently. To be fair, I was including Ambrose in my OP when I said "Shield Guys". Just because I don't like him, doesn't mean he's not over.
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Post by IRS on Feb 7, 2015 18:13:48 GMT -5
I know how to fix WWE's problems too: don't make stupid booking decisions that piss off the fanbase. Seems simple enough, no? Impossible to quantify. When "stupid booking decisions that piss off the fanbase" means "not having Daniel Bryan win the title match every night" then it would be very short-sighted of them to follow that rule. If Daniel Bryan never lost, he'd be SuperBryan and Bryanwinslol. People clearly would've been fine with Ziggler, or even Ambrose winning the Rumble. Instead, they made a decision to push a guy to the moon who wasn't ready for the spot. I'd call that stupid. For as much as I dislike Cena, atleast you can say that his push was organic - there is no way that can be said for Roman.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 18:16:55 GMT -5
Impossible to quantify. When "stupid booking decisions that piss off the fanbase" means "not having Daniel Bryan win the title match every night" then it would be very short-sighted of them to follow that rule. If Daniel Bryan never lost, he'd be SuperBryan and Bryanwinslol. People clearly would've been fine with Ziggler, or even Ambrose winning the Rumble. Instead, they made a decision to push a guy to the moon who wasn't ready for the spot. I'd call that stupid. For as much as I dislike Cena, atleast you can say that his push was organic - there is no way that can be said for Roman. Roman was over as hell until it became known that the machine was behind him. I don't really see how him floating on the midcard, feuding with Cody Rhodes or Cesaro or whoever, and in the meantime missing his opportunity for a rub from Lesnar as being at all helpful...
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Post by ZMaster on Feb 7, 2015 18:27:35 GMT -5
I don't like the idea of 2 World Titles. I'm sorry but I don't like the idea of this everybody gets a title run mentality. Not everybody thinks the same in the IWC. How hard is that for people to understand?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 18:38:05 GMT -5
Fantastic, another person who knows how to fix WWE's problems....
* looks at OP's name *
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Feb 7, 2015 18:40:45 GMT -5
I liked the World Heavyweight Championship, sad they got rid of it. The brand split would be good for business. IMO.The roster is far too small to be split and the it's is nowhere near the size it was between 2002/2010.
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Post by IRS on Feb 7, 2015 18:45:09 GMT -5
People clearly would've been fine with Ziggler, or even Ambrose winning the Rumble. Instead, they made a decision to push a guy to the moon who wasn't ready for the spot. I'd call that stupid. For as much as I dislike Cena, atleast you can say that his push was organic - there is no way that can be said for Roman. Roman was over as hell until it became known that the machine was behind him. I don't really see how him floating on the midcard, feuding with Cody Rhodes or Cesaro or whoever, and in the meantime missing his opportunity for a rub from Lesnar as being at all helpful... His pops declined sharply from SS on, and ever since he's returned he's had a 50/50 reaction, at best. And honestly, I'm willing to bet that atleast some of the pops he was getting/gets are due to him still using The Shield's theme...
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 7, 2015 18:56:41 GMT -5
People clearly would've been fine with Ziggler, or even Ambrose winning the Rumble. Instead, they made a decision to push a guy to the moon who wasn't ready for the spot. I'd call that stupid. For as much as I dislike Cena, atleast you can say that his push was organic - there is no way that can be said for Roman. Roman was over as hell until it became known that the machine was behind him. I don't really see how him floating on the midcard, feuding with Cody Rhodes or Cesaro or whoever, and in the meantime missing his opportunity for a rub from Lesnar as being at all helpful... My biggest gripe with this comeback is that you and NMS (or RME or whatever name he's going with) say he'll be having midcard feuds and floating around with the likes of Cesaro. That's not what he should be doing. The guy has only had one (very mediocre) singles match on PPV against Randy Orton. I don't want him in meaningless 50/50 booking rematches. But a year of well booked feuds against Rusev, Seth Rollins, Sheamus, a heel Ambrose maybe, and hell, even Big Show (since we're getting that crap anyway), would allow him to blossom more and pay his dues as Steve Austin stated. That's just my opinion. I'm not of the "Roman won the Rumble and everyone who thinks that's bad is a stupid smark" crowd and I'm not of the "Roman shouldn't have won because he SUXLOL" crowd.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 19:18:09 GMT -5
That's just...just..so ing stupid. We don't want him as our 'forever champion' we just want him in the main event mix as a contender for the championship, and him to have at least ONE proper ing run with it. We want Bryan to win the Rumble = we want him to win everything? What?
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 7, 2015 21:10:10 GMT -5
The brand split sucked. The roster is too small. The WHC would go back to being title B. Might as well give Bryan the IC Title.
Also, giving Bryan the consolation prize forever doesn't make up for not giving him a real run with Title A at the height of his popularity.
Bryan is the guy right now in the eyes of the audience. WWE clearly doesn't feel he's that guy for them. That's all it really comes down to imo.
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Feb 7, 2015 21:11:43 GMT -5
You want a new show and a new title for the IWC to be happy..? Go watch ROH or NJPW or something. WWE doesn't care if the IWC is butthurt that Daniel Bryan doesn't hold every championship and wrestle for all three hours on Raw.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 21:25:32 GMT -5
You want a new show and a new title for the IWC to be happy..? Go watch ROH or NJPW or something. WWE doesn't care if the IWC is butthurt that Daniel Bryan doesn't hold every championship and wrestle for all three hours on Raw. That's also not what the IWC is upset about, but I'm sure you'll disagree.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 7, 2015 21:40:35 GMT -5
But a year of well booked feuds Yeah, that's not gonna happen in this company.
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