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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 7:54:31 GMT -5
Samoa Joe in WWE wouldn't be good at all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 7:59:57 GMT -5
Heath Slater is very underrated
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Post by johnnyb on Apr 6, 2015 18:33:25 GMT -5
(Is this unpopular?) Lesnar is years ahead of anyone in the WWE. Probably the only guy that makes it 'must watch'. I had kind of thought this for a while, but Raw last week confirmed it. When he opened I was glued until he got suspended. Could've easily stopped watching after that and it wouldn't have made any difference to me. Also, CM Punk really wasn't all that as a champion. He's ok, but not a WWE Champion. There's a reason buy rates and ratings went down when he was champion. Yeah, stale-ass John Cena was still main eventing every single PPV.
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Post by attitudesback on Apr 6, 2015 18:46:22 GMT -5
(Is this unpopular?) Lesnar is years ahead of anyone in the WWE. Probably the only guy that makes it 'must watch'. I had kind of thought this for a while, but Raw last week confirmed it. When he opened I was glued until he got suspended. Could've easily stopped watching after that and it wouldn't have made any difference to me. Also, CM Punk really wasn't all that as a champion. He's ok, but not a WWE Champion. There's a reason buy rates and ratings went down when he was champion. Yeah, stale-ass John Cena was still main eventing every single PPV. The 'Pipe Bomb' did a lower rating than the Mark Henry retirement I believe. Cena's fault? I do agree with Cena Main Eventing, part of the reason Punk left was because of the Main Event issue. But yeah, it wasn't all Cena's fault as he does actually draw/do merchandise numbers no matter how stale/boring he can be to some at times. I might be waaaaayyy off the mark there, so I apologise if my comment on ratings etc was wrong, but from what I knew Punk as champion actually dipped company numbers such as ratings and buys.
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Post by johnnyb on Apr 6, 2015 18:51:17 GMT -5
Yeah, stale-ass John Cena was still main eventing every single PPV. The 'Pipe Bomb' did a lower rating than the Mark Henry retirement I believe. Cena's fault? I do agree with Cena Main Eventing, part of the reason Punk left was because of the Main Event issue. But yeah, it wasn't all Cena's fault as he does actually draw/do merchandise numbers no matter how stale/boring he can be to some at times. I might be waaaaayyy off the mark there, so I apologise if my comment on ratings etc was wrong, but from what I knew Punk as champion actually dipped company numbers such as ratings and buys. This comparison is ridiculous. Not an ounce of merit to it. The "Pipe Bomb" was unadvertised and occurred mostly during the overrun during a really dead period for WWE... the Pipe Bomb got Punk international notoriety and he was white-hot until Triple H buried him three PPVs in a row. Mark Henry's advertised-in-advance segment (that got considerable buzz online) averaged more viewers due in large part to the fact that Punk lit a fire under the industry's ass. I can't stress enough how terrible it is to compare individual fifteen minute segments, especially in today's age where WWE has no competition and rarely advertises segments more than two hours in advance. And again, Punk isn't the one to blame for bad ratings when he isn't even being pushed as the #1 guy in the company. Seriously... dude was the absolute best performer on the roster for at least three years and got a handful of main-event segments in return, while Cena continued steamrolling and emasculating every single opponent he had during that stretch while failing to help the industry grow.
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Post by attitudesback on Apr 6, 2015 18:54:34 GMT -5
The 'Pipe Bomb' did a lower rating than the Mark Henry retirement I believe. Cena's fault? I do agree with Cena Main Eventing, part of the reason Punk left was because of the Main Event issue. But yeah, it wasn't all Cena's fault as he does actually draw/do merchandise numbers no matter how stale/boring he can be to some at times. I might be waaaaayyy off the mark there, so I apologise if my comment on ratings etc was wrong, but from what I knew Punk as champion actually dipped company numbers such as ratings and buys. This comparison is ridiculous. Not an ounce of merit to it. The "Pipe Bomb" was unadvertised and occurred mostly during the overrun during a really dead period for WWE... the Pipe Bomb got Punk international notoriety and he was white-hot until Triple H buried him three PPVs in a row. Mark Henry's advertised-in-advance segment (that got considerable buzz online) averaged more viewers due in large part to the fact that Punk lit a fire under the industry's ass. I can't stress enough how terrible it is to compare individual fifteen minute segments, especially in today's age where WWE has no competition and rarely advertises segments more than two hours in advance. Ah. I had no idea there. The statement is still true, but it's a little off. I wasn't watching back then so I'm not entirely sure as to the specifics behind it.
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Post by Roman Bellic on Apr 6, 2015 19:10:06 GMT -5
Kaitlyn had the best "underdog diva rises to the top" storyline
not to mention: dat chunky/curvy butt
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Apr 6, 2015 21:40:14 GMT -5
Hornswoggle is more entertaining than christian.
Edge didn't deserve to go into the hall of fame just yet im an edgehead but i didn't agree with him going in when he did.
Technical and submission style wrestling isn't that entertaining.
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Post by johnnyb on Apr 6, 2015 22:52:22 GMT -5
Hornswoggle is more entertaining than christian.
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Post by Danger10 on Apr 6, 2015 23:34:30 GMT -5
I can't stand anything about The Bella Twins
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Post by Hendrix83 on Apr 6, 2015 23:48:01 GMT -5
Triple H, from Hunter Hearst Helmsley to The Authority, has had the best character development and story of any wrestler in the WWE/WWF Watching some old stuff from '96 the other day, I was thinking about Triple H's character. But I have the opposite opinion. Triple H really just reverted back to his original character. He's a blue-blood snob who's part of the ruling elite and resides in Greenwich, Connecticut.
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Apr 7, 2015 17:29:26 GMT -5
Triple H, from Hunter Hearst Helmsley to The Authority, has had the best character development and story of any wrestler in the WWE/WWF Watching some old stuff from '96 the other day, I was thinking about Triple H's character. But I have the opposite opinion. Triple H really just reverted back to his original character. He's a blue-blood snob who's part of the ruling elite and resides in Greenwich, Connecticut. That's fair. I just feel like his story is a great one all centered around his character's inferiority complex. Like him or not, hope you're enjoying the product.
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Post by Halloween King on Apr 7, 2015 18:24:55 GMT -5
I wish the Survivor Series would go back to being an all team ppv. Teams of 4 or 5 in tag elimination matches. I can see 1 or 2 singles matches for title defenses but it should def go back to the way it was.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Apr 7, 2015 18:52:17 GMT -5
I wish the Survivor Series would go back to being an all team ppv. Teams of 4 or 5 in tag elimination matches. I can see 1 or 2 singles matches for title defenses but it should def go back to the way it was. I think I agree with that, I hate how all the PPVs are interchangeable now, they used to be so distinct. 4 a year also made them more meaningful.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 18:52:25 GMT -5
Evan Bourne would not have fit in at all with the Motor City Machine Guns, it seems like more a of a tag team than stable thing to me I didn't really care too much for the SHIELD Wade Barrett is misused Antonio Cesaro is more entertaining to me as a singles competitor Christian hasn't entertained me since WWECW Daniel Bryan's Yes/No gimmick annoys me and I wish they'd just have him be a little more of a well thought out character I don't see a point in Undertaker at Wrestlemania anymore now that the streak has been defeated I kinda wish they kept Sami Zayn's Generico gimmick in some way I'm not into the Uso's I think it's kinda cool to see Main Eventers holding lower card titles (Cena/Bryan) Kane remasking was dull to me Morrison>Miz I wish they wouldn't have limited appearance guys (Lesnar/The Rock) as World champions Sting hasn't been great since the TNA feud with Kurt Angle (Main Event Mafia) I don't really enjoy Zack Ryder
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Post by threehgame on Apr 7, 2015 19:28:51 GMT -5
A lot of the guys that were considered "underused" like Jindrak and O'Haire really weren't. More exposer would have shown they weren't that great. Add Mike Awesome to that list. For some reason anytime a guy who is tall has some high-flyer moves in his arsenal it magnifies their ability to many fans. Awesome was good in ECW where he could have the same match over and over. O"Haire had a great look. Jindrak was....well Jindrak. None of them had anything beyond size and a hew spots. Extra ring time and better gimmicks would have just shown how limited they all were.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 19:31:26 GMT -5
Zack Ryder is the most underrated wrestler EVER. He loves the business and Vince just keeps burying him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 19:35:42 GMT -5
Hornswoggle is more entertaining than christian.
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Post by Danger10 on Apr 7, 2015 22:05:25 GMT -5
I wish the Survivor Series would go back to being an all team ppv. Teams of 4 or 5 in tag elimination matches. I can see 1 or 2 singles matches for title defenses but it should def go back to the way it was. Same here, Survivor Series is my favorite PPV because I love the elimination matches and the whole concept, I get let down almost every year when I see the final card and there's like 2 traditional Survivor Series matches.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 10:36:57 GMT -5
The divas division is awful.
Its weird that certain dudes only care about the divas ( they won't admit why, but it's obvious)
Everything is to help the writing of total divas.
So dumb
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