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Post by Hulk Who? on Feb 7, 2015 0:49:31 GMT -5
I don't need no stinking introduction.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Feb 27, 2015 6:10:28 GMT -5
Oh. Well then. Maybe this is a silly question, but how do you feel about Hogan?
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Post by JC Motors on Feb 27, 2015 12:58:12 GMT -5
Welcome
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Post by Hulk Who? on Feb 27, 2015 17:15:55 GMT -5
Oh. Well then. Maybe this is a silly question, but how do you feel about Hogan? Went to sleep. It's not a silly question, I think I would ask the same thing. Hogan was the Babe Ruth of wrestling, guy made pro wrestling what it is along with McMahon. I liked him growing up but he was always behind Savage and Warrior to me. I started watching in 91, but I lived on top of a video store full or wrestling tapes so I caught up very quickly. (Vlad the Superfan was a frequent patron as well, I can't tell you how cool it was to browse the wrestling section with Vlad when I was like 9, dude was on half the tapes!) He was riveting to watch before 91/92, then he became something of a parody of himself, and shenanigans start. Idk how many people watched the Warrior karma collects video that was hysterical and slightly scary too, but he said some stuff in there I agreed with. I don't think Hogan thought there was room for all the great characters he was surrounded by, just him, when Savage, Warrior, Piper, Roberts, Rude etc weren't threats to him at all, no one was, he was completely untouchable, no one could hurt him except for himself. I think he wanted to be a one man rock concert where he didn't sing or play any instruments, that's how the end of Royal Rumble 90 comes off to me. And his rogue's gallery was so amazing I ended up liking some of them more than him. I'm not sure he realized how much people loved him, like it was all still a con he had to keep going with his formulas, when he ended the con era. He failed to evolve the way Macho and Warrior did until the nWo. He was the man, but he didn't really mature and become an elder statesman of wrestling the way he could have. I can't help but think that guys like Savage, Warrior, Hogan, Piper, Roberts should have been folded into backstage work after they stopped wrestling, they had so much to offer young wrestlers. And of course, who knows how much Hulk Hogan has consumed Terry Bollea. I could also just say in all the time he worked with Savage, he didn't give Savage a clean victory once, not once. And twice Savage won the WCW title and lost it to Hogan the next night ... ridiculous. But I don't hate him, I ordered 3 of the 4 Hogan figures Mattel made. He should just get some class and act more like Inoki, wear some glorious scarves and give out honorary slaps.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Feb 27, 2015 17:17:46 GMT -5
Too much explanation? Too little?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 17:38:26 GMT -5
When I was a kid I was legit scared of Razor Ramon. He used to say he was going to be taking over or something and I'm pretty sure I believed him. This was all back when wrestling was still real.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Feb 27, 2015 23:39:23 GMT -5
When I was a kid I was legit scared of Razor Ramon. He used to say he was going to be taking over or something and I'm pretty sure I believed him. This was all back when wrestling was still real. I think I was too busy asking why my favorite wrestlers had left me to be scared of Razor. Why did they leave ME? And Razor when he debuted scared you or Scott Hall in WCW? Maybe he was scary. I thought he might beat Bret Hart at RR93, they launched him so successfully with Flair, Perfect and Savage that he seemed credible and he was a big guy with powerful moves I'd never seen, Razor's Edge, fallaway slam, top rope back suplex.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 7:49:34 GMT -5
When I was a kid I was legit scared of Razor Ramon. He used to say he was going to be taking over or something and I'm pretty sure I believed him. This was all back when wrestling was still real. I think I was too busy asking why my favorite wrestlers had left me to be scared of Razor. Why did they leave ME? And Razor when he debuted scared you or Scott Hall in WCW? Maybe he was scary. I thought he might beat Bret Hart at RR93, they launched him so successfully with Flair, Perfect and Savage that he seemed credible and he was a big guy with powerful moves I'd never seen, Razor's Edge, fallaway slam, top rope back suplex. It was Razor that scared me. I think maybe it had something to do with him coming from Cuba. I grew up during the Cold War. I'm pretty sure that had something to do with it but the details are fuzzy. I was over wrestling and into girls when Scott Hall invaded WCW. Looking back on it now it's kind of funny for me to think of the mind transition I must have went through going from being legit scared of Razor in WWF to not even caring about wrestling by the time Scott entered WCW. I didn't get back into wrestling until Vince became the evil boss. Of course everyone was into wrestling then, but I had imagined Vince as that type of character as a kid, and I wanted to see it play out on the small screen.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Feb 28, 2015 18:20:10 GMT -5
kayfabeI made it to around 98 before I mostly lost interest and went off chasing girls too. I had the same kind of clean break where I just didn't miss it at all. Most of the guys I grew up with were gone anyway, and I did like Austin back to his WCW days and I liked the SCSA character, but his run didn't really retain my interest, not having Hart and HBK to work with was part of it. Didn't care for chairs, tables and trash cans all over the place either. I think I would tune in to see Macho Man on Nitro though. I still watched some of the PPVS if someone had one on, but I didn't really watch for about 10 years, between WM20 and 30. I did watch 24 and 25, mostly for the HOF and the HBK matches. Punk grabbed my attention a bit, especially the ice cream stuff, and I liked some of the matches with Cena. I think I just decided to give it another chance after I started collecting the Legends line shortly before WM30. It's still a mess, but they have some really great talent now. I did start watching MMA around 2007, so that probably filled in for wrestling quite a bit. Duck Holliday And I started studying film heavy duty, back to the silent era from all over the world. I grew up with the Goonies and WWF and ended up a Godard, Bresson and Tarkovsky student. lol I studied the hell out of US film too, but mostly silent, 30s, 40s and 50s.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 19:07:44 GMT -5
kayfabeI made it to around 98 before I mostly lost interest and went off chasing girls too. I had the same kind of clean break where I just didn't miss it at all. Most of the guys I grew up with were gone anyway, and I did like Austin back to his WCW days and I liked the SCSA character, but his run didn't really retain my interest, not having Hart and HBK to work with was part of it. Didn't care for chairs, tables and trash cans all over the place either. I think I would tune in to see Macho Man on Nitro though. I still watched some of the PPVS if someone had one on, but I didn't really watch for about 10 years, between WM20 and 30. I did watch 24 and 25, mostly for the HOF and the HBK matches. Punk grabbed my attention a bit, especially the ice cream stuff, and I liked some of the matches with Cena. I think I just decided to give it another chance after I started collecting the Legends line shortly before WM30. It's still a mess, but they have some really great talent now. I did start watching MMA around 2007, so that probably filled in for wrestling quite a bit. And I started studying film heavy duty, back to the silent era from all over the world. I grew up with the Goonies and WWF and ended up a Godard, Bresson and Tarkovsky student. lol I studied the hell out of US film too, but mostly 30s 40s and 50s. I'm not an expert on film or anything but are you familiar with either Billy Wilder or Alfred Hitchcock? My lady friend likes both so I've seen a bunch of their movies. When I watched, "Some Like it Hot", it was easy for me to imagine Jim Carey in Jack Lemmon's role. That's a great flick. I'm new here. What does it mean when someone "tags" a post?
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Post by Hulk Who? on Feb 28, 2015 19:28:17 GMT -5
Yup, off course I know Billy Wilder and Hitchcock, Hitchcock is the most influential filmmaker there ever was, he made movies from the silent era through the 70s. I think Jim Carrey and Jim Varney were both great rubber faces. Ed O'Neil too, all three could have worked in the silent era. kayfabe Tagging is just calling attention to someone in a thread without having to quote them. Can help not clutter things up too.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Feb 28, 2015 19:58:08 GMT -5
I didn't see the introduction section or banter either really for quite a while after I was here, so I posted Razor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 19:59:54 GMT -5
How do I tag?
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Post by Hulk Who? on Feb 28, 2015 20:37:50 GMT -5
Hit reply, its the fifth button on the right. With the @ and the little guy.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Mar 1, 2015 4:34:04 GMT -5
Too much explanation? Too little? Nah, that was good.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Mar 1, 2015 4:40:00 GMT -5
I did start watching MMA around 2007, so that probably filled in for wrestling quite a bit. Duck Holliday And I started studying film heavy duty, back to the silent era from all over the world. I grew up with the Goonies and WWF and ended up a Godard, Bresson and Tarkovsky student. lol I studied the hell out of US film too, but mostly silent, 30s, 40s and 50s. I've watched a lot of classic US film, a chunk of foreign and indie. Kieślowski is probably my favorite of the hoidy toidy filmmakers. I'm a huge fan of westerns, which probably is my greatest expertise.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Mar 1, 2015 17:14:41 GMT -5
I've watched a lot of classic US film, a chunk of foreign and indie. Kieślowski is probably my favorite of the hoidy toidy filmmakers. I'm a huge fan of westerns, which probably is my greatest expertise. There are lots of great westerns from Ford, Hawks, I like Eastwood too, but my personal favorite is Anthony Mann. Man Of The West, Man From Laramie, Winchester 73, Naked Spur. Mann was pretty awesome. And I have a special love for Marlene Dietrich in Rancho Notorious, Fritz Lang western, she always cracks me up.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Mar 1, 2015 17:21:23 GMT -5
I've watched a lot of classic US film, a chunk of foreign and indie. Kieślowski is probably my favorite of the hoidy toidy filmmakers. I'm a huge fan of westerns, which probably is my greatest expertise. There are lots of great westerns from Ford, Hawks, I like Eastwood too, but my personal favorite is Anthony Mann. Man Of The West, Man From Laramie, Winchester 73, Naked Spur. Mann was pretty awesome. And I have a special love for Marlene Dietrich in Rancho Notorious, Fritz Lang western, she always cracks me up. Sergio Leone and Delmer Daves are up there with Ford, Hawks and Eastwood for me. I liked Winchester 73 quite a bit and Bend of the River. Man From Laramie was solid, but I was let down by the Naked Spur (the romance was really stupid and poorly handled to me) and the Far Country. Haven't seen it.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Mar 1, 2015 17:41:53 GMT -5
Duck HollidayI never got around to Kieslowski, there's so much to go through, I ended up rain checking him. There are sooo many Godard movies to figure out, never mind everything else like silent, Fassbinder, Italians, other French, US. And I was studying philosophy, literature, history to go along with it, I just had to stand back at some point and say I can't look at everything, I'll probably get around to him at some point. Not sure I I saw any Delmer Daves westerns, I know I really used to like Dark Passage when I was a kid. Rancho Notorious is the crappiest little budget western but I love almost everything Dietrich is in, and it's a Fritz Lang movie anyway, he didn't make many bad ones. There's a wonderfully ridiculous scene where she rides a fat guy across a bar in a race.
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