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Post by Yambag Jones on Feb 28, 2015 11:25:00 GMT -5
The only wrestling I watch is NJPW, PWG, and NXT. I can't stomach anything else.
I firmly believe that wrestling is a great form of entertainment. If I'm going to recommend it to someone who doesn't watch, showing them non-NXT WWE shows won't hook them.
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Post by The Yes Man on Feb 28, 2015 11:32:43 GMT -5
I see your Bull & raise you a Mojo Rawley. If these two ever have a match, I might actually gouge out my own eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 11:38:31 GMT -5
If these two ever have a match, I might actually gouge out my own eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 12:21:02 GMT -5
If these two ever have a match, I might actually gouge out my own eyes. Oh good lord. For my own sake I must avoid.
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Feb 28, 2015 13:23:35 GMT -5
NXT has a lot of problems. Not so great diva's division, some bad gimmicks, bias pushes, but at the end of the day, they're putting on great matches for the most part, and that's what it's all about. What? They use, what, three divas on a regular basis? Bayley's gimmick sucks and Charlotte and Sasha probably won't end up doing crap in WWE, they're not that great, good at best. And look what happens when they bring NXT divas up, you get what happened to Emma.
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Post by DeadHeadKing on Feb 28, 2015 13:24:10 GMT -5
Firstly, I like Bull Dempsey. ... Am I still allowed to post here? Oh great cool. Anyway, NXT is worth every single bit of praise it gets. It consistently puts on a good show and the fans at Full Sail are always excited and full of energy which helps bring the show to life. The TakeOver specials while have had at least one match be absolute s#!t due to being given ridiculous short times IMO and some wrestlers being greener than John's Cena neon merchandise last year, are fantastic watches and always enjoyable. So yes, NXT is the mother ing bomb and deserves all the goodness of stuff and thangs. Your not alone, I like Bull Dempsey also!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 13:29:35 GMT -5
They use, what, three divas on a regular basis? Bayley's gimmick sucks and Charlotte and Sasha probably won't end up doing crap in WWE, they're not that great, good at best. And look what happens when they bring NXT divas up, you get what happened to Emma. Sasha Banks Charlotte Becky Lynch Bayley Carmella That's 5 just off the top of my head. Not counting Alexa Bliss, Blue Pants and Natalya. Bayley has a unique gimmick which is great. Banks, Charlotte, Becky and Bayley just had one of the greatest Divas matches ever a few weeks ago. What show are you watching?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 28, 2015 13:30:41 GMT -5
They use, what, three divas on a regular basis? Bayley's gimmick sucks and Charlotte and Sasha probably won't end up doing crap in WWE, they're not that great, good at best. And look what happens when they bring NXT divas up, you get what happened to Emma. So much wrong with this. Where to begin. 1) They use a rotation of about six girls. Charlotte, Bayley, Becky, Sasha, Carmella, Alexa and now Emma. 2) Bayley's gimmick is super over and not just with the weekly Full Sail crowd. On the live events she's the most over person on the roster, rivaling Sami Zayn in some places from reports. 3) Charlotte or Sasha not doing anything on the main roster has ZERO to do with how good they are. The fact that the main roster books girls terribly doesn't make them any less. 4) Two things about the Emma statement. One is that Emma is damn good and again, her use on the main roster doesn't take away from that. And two, Emma's gimmick was the kind that is hard to get over on the main roster, so it's partly that. 5) The girls in NXT are all very talented, with the exception of Carmella.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 13:31:29 GMT -5
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Feb 28, 2015 13:34:23 GMT -5
NXT has a lot of problems. Not so great diva's division, some bad gimmicks, bias pushes, but at the end of the day, they're putting on great matches for the most part, and that's what it's all about.
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Feb 28, 2015 13:38:39 GMT -5
They use, what, three divas on a regular basis? Bayley's gimmick sucks and Charlotte and Sasha probably won't end up doing crap in WWE, they're not that great, good at best. And look what happens when they bring NXT divas up, you get what happened to Emma. Sasha Banks Charlotte Becky Lynch Bayley Carmella That's 5 just off the top of my head. Not counting Alexa Bliss, Blue Pants and Natalya. Bayley has a unique gimmick which is great. Banks, Charlotte, Becky and Bayley just had one of the greatest Divas matches ever a few weeks ago. What show are you watching? I can't get past them with their characters. Banks just doesn't have 'it' at all, she's just there, quoting a dumb parody music video from like 5 years ago. Charlotte looks like shes 44 and WWE focuses on looks primarily with their divas. And Becky and Bayley have silly NXT Santino tag team gimmicks. Becky skips(?) if that's even what you call it and Bayley hugs... Wow, man, that is some main event stuff right there. I don't even know who Carmella is, I know I've seen the name, but if you put he in a line up, I wouldn't know who she is. Natalya's a main eventer, Alexa is a 6 year old in a princess costume and Blue Pants... need I say more than her name? I just feel like they don't really try with them very hard at all. I mean, why is Charlotte there? Because she's Ric Flair's daughter and Triple H and Flair are friends.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Feb 28, 2015 13:44:03 GMT -5
Sasha Banks Charlotte Becky Lynch Bayley Carmella That's 5 just off the top of my head. Not counting Alexa Bliss, Blue Pants and Natalya. Bayley has a unique gimmick which is great. Banks, Charlotte, Becky and Bayley just had one of the greatest Divas matches ever a few weeks ago. What show are you watching? I can't get past them with their characters. Banks just doesn't have 'it' at all, she's just there, quoting a dumb parody music video from like 5 years ago. Charlotte looks like shes 44 and WWE focuses on looks primarily with their divas. And Becky and Bayley have silly NXT Santino tag team gimmicks. Becky skips(?) if that's even what you call it and Bayley hugs... Wow, man, that is some main event stuff right there. I don't even know who Carmella is, I know I've seen the name, but if you put he in a line up, I wouldn't know who she is. Natalya's a main eventer, Alexa is a 6 year old in a princess costume and Blue Pants... need I say more than her name? I just feel like they don't really try with them very hard at all. I mean, why is Charlotte there? Because she's Ric Flair's daughter and Triple H and Flair are friends. What show are you watching?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 13:46:46 GMT -5
Sasha Banks Charlotte Becky Lynch Bayley Carmella That's 5 just off the top of my head. Not counting Alexa Bliss, Blue Pants and Natalya. Bayley has a unique gimmick which is great. Banks, Charlotte, Becky and Bayley just had one of the greatest Divas matches ever a few weeks ago. What show are you watching? I can't get past them with their characters. Banks just doesn't have 'it' at all, she's just there, quoting a dumb parody music video from like 5 years ago. Charlotte looks like shes 44 and WWE focuses on looks primarily with their divas. And Becky and Bayley have silly NXT Santino tag team gimmicks. Becky skips(?) if that's even what you call it and Bayley hugs... Wow, man, that is some main event stuff right there. I don't even know who Carmella is, I know I've seen the name, but if you put he in a line up, I wouldn't know who she is. Natalya's a main eventer, Alexa is a 6 year old in a princess costume and Blue Pants... need I say more than her name? I just feel like they don't really try with them very hard at all. I mean, why is Charlotte there? Because she's Ric Flair's daughter and Triple H and Flair are friends. Banks doesn't have "it"? Do you even watch NXT? Bayley, like Kev stated, is super over with the live audiences too, people can relate to her gimmick and want to like her, it's very easy to root for Bayley. Becky doesn't skip. Alexa and Charlotte you're judging on looks alone, which is exactly what's wrong with the main roster divas division. People want to focus on looks and nothing else, which is just plain wrong. Carmella...you don't need to know her name. She does suck. NXT Diva division is what the main roster division should be.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 13:47:37 GMT -5
Lol since when were Divas required to main event?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 28, 2015 13:48:38 GMT -5
Sasha Banks Charlotte Becky Lynch Bayley Carmella That's 5 just off the top of my head. Not counting Alexa Bliss, Blue Pants and Natalya. Bayley has a unique gimmick which is great. Banks, Charlotte, Becky and Bayley just had one of the greatest Divas matches ever a few weeks ago. What show are you watching? I can't get past them with their characters. Banks just doesn't have 'it' at all, she's just there, quoting a dumb parody music video from like 5 years ago. Charlotte looks like shes 44 and WWE focuses on looks primarily with their divas. And Becky and Bayley have silly NXT Santino tag team gimmicks. Becky skips(?) if that's even what you call it and Bayley hugs... Wow, man, that is some main event stuff right there. I don't even know who Carmella is, I know I've seen the name, but if you put he in a line up, I wouldn't know who she is. Natalya's a main eventer, Alexa is a 6 year old in a princess costume and Blue Pants... need I say more than her name? I just feel like they don't really try with them very hard at all. I mean, why is Charlotte there? Because she's Ric Flair's daughter and Triple H and Flair are friends. I feel like you aren't watching NXT at all. Becky doesn't skip. Charlotte does look 44 and the family lineage is why she was signed, but she has improved dramatically in just her two years of working. Blue Pants is not meant to be taken seriously but Leva Bates can work. Natalya's a main eventer? So what if Alexa looks like a princess? She can go. Where in god's name do you get Becky and Bayley having Santino gimmicks? Look, if your purpose is to troll then do it right. If your purpose is to bash NXT, that's fine, you don't have to love it, but at least get what you say about it right.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 13:49:57 GMT -5
Unless headbanging is considered skipping, I'm not sure where you get that part from.
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Feb 28, 2015 14:00:41 GMT -5
I can't get past them with their characters. Banks just doesn't have 'it' at all, she's just there, quoting a dumb parody music video from like 5 years ago. Charlotte looks like shes 44 and WWE focuses on looks primarily with their divas. And Becky and Bayley have silly NXT Santino tag team gimmicks. Becky skips(?) if that's even what you call it and Bayley hugs... Wow, man, that is some main event stuff right there. I don't even know who Carmella is, I know I've seen the name, but if you put he in a line up, I wouldn't know who she is. Natalya's a main eventer, Alexa is a 6 year old in a princess costume and Blue Pants... need I say more than her name? I just feel like they don't really try with them very hard at all. I mean, why is Charlotte there? Because she's Ric Flair's daughter and Triple H and Flair are friends. Banks doesn't have "it"? Do you even watch NXT? Bayley, like Kev stated, is super over with the live audiences too, people can relate to her gimmick and want to like her, it's very easy to root for Bayley. Becky doesn't skip. Alexa and Charlotte you're judging on looks alone, which is exactly what's wrong with the main roster divas division. People want to focus on looks and nothing else, which is just plain wrong. Carmella...you don't need to know her name. She does suck. NXT Diva division is what the main roster division should be. I love Bayley, don't get me wrong, but I also loved Emma, and look what happened to her. Santino style gimmicks aren't over for real. Becky totally skips. And yeah, I base them off looks because that's what WWE has done, does do, and will do for a long time, so nothing's going to change. Alexa looks like what my girlfriend dresses up as when she role plays for me, and I'm not going to take it serious for a second. Bayley will more than likely never get the WWE Divas Championship unless something dramatic happens or her gimmick changes. Becky is just... No. Carmella, I don't even know, you say she sucks, I'll take that. Charlotte looks like a fit 40 year old who's finisher is a weak version of the RKO. Dana Brooke hasn't been on NXT yet. Sasha, like I said, her thing is to quote a parody music video from like 5 years ago and she looks like a fish. I'm very unimpressed by the direction of the NXT Diva Division. I'm sorry. I want to be impressed, but they're not actually trying with them. I don't look at it from and NXT standpoint, I look at it from a main roster standpoint, because that's what we're suppose to do. NXT is nothing more than developmental, and everyone looks at it as a weekly wrestlemania that's higher than the main roster.
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Feb 28, 2015 14:04:45 GMT -5
They use, what, three divas on a regular basis? Bayley's gimmick sucks and Charlotte and Sasha probably won't end up doing crap in WWE, they're not that great, good at best. And look what happens when they bring NXT divas up, you get what happened to Emma. So much wrong with this. Where to begin. 1) They use a rotation of about six girls. Charlotte, Bayley, Becky, Sasha, Carmella, Alexa and now Emma. 2) Bayley's gimmick is super over and not just with the weekly Full Sail crowd. On the live events she's the most over person on the roster, rivaling Sami Zayn in some places from reports. 3) Charlotte or Sasha not doing anything on the main roster has ZERO to do with how good they are. The fact that the main roster books girls terribly doesn't make them any less. 4) Two things about the Emma statement. One is that Emma is damn good and again, her use on the main roster doesn't take away from that. And two, Emma's gimmick was the kind that is hard to get over on the main roster, so it's partly that. 5) The girls in NXT are all very talented, with the exception of Carmella. You can be the best wrestler in the world, but it doesn't f*cking matter if you can't do anything on the main roster. In case you forgot, the MAIN roster is called MAIN for a reason. It's the big leagues, it's what they're trying to be on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 14:04:55 GMT -5
Banks doesn't have "it"? Do you even watch NXT? Bayley, like Kev stated, is super over with the live audiences too, people can relate to her gimmick and want to like her, it's very easy to root for Bayley. Becky doesn't skip. Alexa and Charlotte you're judging on looks alone, which is exactly what's wrong with the main roster divas division. People want to focus on looks and nothing else, which is just plain wrong. Carmella...you don't need to know her name. She does suck. NXT Diva division is what the main roster division should be. I love Bayley, don't get me wrong, but I also loved Emma, and look what happened to her. Santino style gimmicks aren't over for real. Becky totally skips. And yeah, I base them off looks because that's what WWE has done, does do, and will do for a long time, so nothing's going to change. Alexa looks like what my girlfriend dresses up as when she role plays for me, and I'm not going to take it serious for a second. Bayley will more than likely never get the WWE Divas Championship unless something dramatic happens or her gimmick changes. Becky is just... No. Carmella, I don't even know, you say she sucks, I'll take that. Charlotte looks like a fit 40 year old who's finisher is a weak version of the RKO. Dana Brooke hasn't been on NXT yet. Sasha, like I said, her thing is to quote a parody music video from like 5 years ago and she looks like a fish. I'm very unimpressed by the direction of the NXT Diva Division. I'm sorry. I want to be impressed, but they're not actually trying with them. I don't look at it from and NXT standpoint, I look at it from a main roster standpoint, because that's what we're suppose to do. NXT is nothing more than developmental, and everyone looks at it as a weekly wrestlemania that's higher than the main roster. I'm pretty sure you don't watch the show. I stopped reading when you said you base them on looks. Start judging them on how they perform. Then we can have a conversation. You have the exact same mindset as the casual fan towards the divas and THAT is why the division isn't where it could be.
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Post by Charlie f'n Kelly on Feb 28, 2015 14:06:52 GMT -5
I can't get past them with their characters. Banks just doesn't have 'it' at all, she's just there, quoting a dumb parody music video from like 5 years ago. Charlotte looks like shes 44 and WWE focuses on looks primarily with their divas. And Becky and Bayley have silly NXT Santino tag team gimmicks. Becky skips(?) if that's even what you call it and Bayley hugs... Wow, man, that is some main event stuff right there. I don't even know who Carmella is, I know I've seen the name, but if you put he in a line up, I wouldn't know who she is. Natalya's a main eventer, Alexa is a 6 year old in a princess costume and Blue Pants... need I say more than her name? I just feel like they don't really try with them very hard at all. I mean, why is Charlotte there? Because she's Ric Flair's daughter and Triple H and Flair are friends. I feel like you aren't watching NXT at all. Becky doesn't skip. Charlotte does look 44 and the family lineage is why she was signed, but she has improved dramatically in just her two years of working. Blue Pants is not meant to be taken seriously but Leva Bates can work. Natalya's a main eventer? So what if Alexa looks like a princess? She can go. Where in god's name do you get Becky and Bayley having Santino gimmicks? Look, if your purpose is to troll then do it right. If your purpose is to bash NXT, that's fine, you don't have to love it, but at least get what you say about it right. I meant on the main roster, not main eventer. Bayley has a comedy gimmick. Childish. Cartoony. Just like Santino
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