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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 11:28:31 GMT -5
I was watching this and remembering how amazing it was and how HUGE of a swerve we got. This could have been the perfect opportunity to bring back the hall of pain and give Henry the WWE title. He didn't have to have it for long, even a 2-3 month reign of pure dominance holding that title would have made it look more important than ever. So that leads me to ask, why does WWE keep these writers? They know how to start off a feud but they don't know how to keep it going, it either comes to an abrupt end with a horrible ending or it drags on forever.
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Post by MikeMillenium on Feb 28, 2015 11:41:40 GMT -5
It's not as simple as we all think. I know that for sure. There could be a million reasons why storylines go the way they do. They have to adapt what they have planned week by week and things could change. Maybe they wanted to introduce someone to a storyline but they didn't want to, or someone gets hurt, or someone asks for the night off when they were supposed to be put into a storyline who knows.
As far as the reason Mark Henry didn't get the title (which I REALLY wanted to happen), my guess, which I can't say is or isn't the reason, because we don't know, is Daniel Bryan.
Think about it, the next PPV is Summerslam and Bryan is red hot. Are they going to give Henry a one month reign? Why have Bryan/Henry again with a one month build up be the marquee match at Summerslam? Bryan beat him before (I know, WWE logic because we've seen Cena/Orton a million times). And Bryan beating Cena would've been much more monumental. I think it was just the wrong timing for that promo for Henry. It should've happened in April, instead of Ryback vs. Cena which just killed Ryback but would've benefited Henry, especially considering he beat Ryback at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 12:02:49 GMT -5
That swerve was amazing, it was the perfect time to have the first black champ. Henry deserved it so much.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 12:25:32 GMT -5
Because they need to write the shows...Pretty straightforward.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 12:33:16 GMT -5
Because they need to write the shows...Pretty straightforward. They can hire new ones... It's as in keep their current ones. No clue how you interpreted it as in me asking why dont they just get rid of their writers and have none. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 12:34:37 GMT -5
Because they need to write the shows...Pretty straightforward. They can hire new ones... It's as in keep their current ones. No clue how you interpreted it as in me asking why dont they just get rid of their writers and have none. Because it doesn't matter. Vince has the final say. They're just yes men who format his ideas. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 12:44:09 GMT -5
Why change them if they're still making a buttload of money?
They've been coasting for over a decade because there's no one to compete with.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Feb 28, 2015 13:58:42 GMT -5
Easy. That show was written by Heyman and Coulter if i remember correctly.
So the WWE writers probably had little to do with this amazing segment.
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Post by cordless2016 on Feb 28, 2015 15:10:39 GMT -5
Charlie Haas said it best. During the attitude era writers would be fired if they couldn't come up with something for a performer. Now performers are fired because the writers can't do there job and write something for them.
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Post by Tyler Black on Feb 28, 2015 15:41:32 GMT -5
Easy. That show was written by Heyman and Coulter if i remember correctly.
So the WWE writers probably had little to do with this amazing segment. Really? if that true, its amazing what happens when professional bookers and wrestling personalities write/book a wrestling show... |
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Post by theMOESIAH on Feb 28, 2015 15:43:26 GMT -5
Why change them if they're still making a buttload of money? They've been coasting for over a decade because there's no one to compete with. They are making a lot of money, sure, but a better show would bring in more fans which would bring in more money. Also, I think the OP is putting a little too much stock in Mark Henry. |
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Feb 28, 2015 15:49:11 GMT -5
Easy. That show was written by Heyman and Coulter if i remember correctly.
So the WWE writers probably had little to do with this amazing segment. Really? if that true, its amazing what happens when professional bookers and wrestling personalities write/book a wrestling show... I believe so. I remember a thread on here some time ago suggesting that Heyman and Colter should be booking/writing and someone posted a link that said that episode and i believe another actually were written by those two. Dont know what the deal was with it happening i guess it was something that the company just wanted to try out. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Feb 28, 2015 17:11:11 GMT -5
WWE writers should be fired because Mark Henry didn't win the title and prevent the Cena vs Bryan SummerSlam from happening?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:47:15 GMT -5
For all we know the writers could be writing the best wrestling shows ever but by the time their scripts get passed through the hands of Stephanie, Dunn and Vince it's turned into complete crap.
There's quite a few former writers out there that have done interviews and talked about stories they wrote that most of us loved and they also talk about stories they wrote that never made it to television that sound like they would have been really good. WWE seems to go through writers quickly. So they are either being fired and replaced or leaving on their own. Where are all of these former bad writers?
I think the biggest problem is Vince and not the writers.
I'm not saying any of this is fact. It's just something I've thought about and wondered about in the past.
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Feb 28, 2015 17:51:14 GMT -5
That swerve was amazing, it was the perfect time to have the first black champ. Henry deserved it so much.  WWF champion, WCW champion under WWE reign, World Heavyweight champion, Undisputed champion, WWE champion.... any way you cut it, Mark Henry cannot be the first black champion. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:53:55 GMT -5
That swerve was amazing, it was the perfect time to have the first black champ. Henry deserved it so much. WWF champion, WCW champion under WWE reign, World Heavyweight champion, Undisputed champion, WWE champion.... any way you cut it, Mark Henry cannot be the first black champion. Full black. Rock does not qualify. |
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Post by Roman Bellic on Feb 28, 2015 18:06:39 GMT -5
WWF champion, WCW champion under WWE reign, World Heavyweight champion, Undisputed champion, WWE champion.... any way you cut it, Mark Henry cannot be the first black champion.Full black. Rock does not qualify. and Rock is WWE's Bitch, another reason why |
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Post by E-Noon on Feb 28, 2015 19:47:04 GMT -5
WWF champion, WCW champion under WWE reign, World Heavyweight champion, Undisputed champion, WWE champion.... any way you cut it, Mark Henry cannot be the first black champion. Full black. Rock does not qualify. By that logic Obama isn't the first black president. |
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Feb 28, 2015 19:50:36 GMT -5
Full black. Rock does not qualify. By that logic Obama isn't the first black president. For christ sakes we all know what he meant. Show me a picture of another black president too because i'd love to see that. |
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Post by Robert69 on Feb 28, 2015 19:57:29 GMT -5
Because they need to write the shows...Pretty straightforward. They can hire new ones... It's as in keep their current ones. No clue how you interpreted it as in me asking why dont they just get rid of their writers and have none. They actually turn over talent pretty regularly, in the writing dept. A friend (the same one who recommended I submit for a writing gig with them) who interviewed for a writing gig with them turned it down, ultimately, because he was making more money doing commercials, but yeah. When he went in, they said they have a number of reasons writers turn over so much. It requires extensive travel, something that a lot of writing gigs don't need, on other TV shows. It requires relocating to the East Coast, and cost of living isn't cheap. People take the gigs, and then realize they have to be away from family/friends, etc, so much. It's very similar to the wrestling lifestyle itself, and people who tend to think they're cut out for it, often times aren't. Basically the people writing do really have to love the product, or at least certain aspects of it, was what I gathered from everything I've heard. And while higher ups do get the final say, there is a lot of input from the various writing staff. It's like any other television programming. Your writing staff's job is to tell the best story they can, that will make you the most money. |
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