aaron34
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Post by aaron34 on Mar 1, 2015 5:39:18 GMT -5
Would someone at WWE have final sign off on figures made?
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Post by ¡Twist Of Cinnamon! on Mar 1, 2015 5:56:35 GMT -5
Very well spotted and this is something I've noticed too, you've definitely done a good job of showing how it has had an effect. I wish WWE would supply them with more accurate photos. I suspect this is where the blue corporate kane from the BAF set came from. Black would have been the more popular choice of colour but he has worn blue before.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Mar 1, 2015 7:02:17 GMT -5
Very well spotted and this is something I've noticed too, you've definitely done a good job of showing how it has had an effect. I wish WWE would supply them with more accurate photos. I suspect this is where the blue corporate kane from the BAF set came from. Black would have been the more popular choice of colour but he has worn blue before. I know the internet has had more than it's fair share of garment colour issues this week but that photo is from when he first marches out in a suit on Raw as Corporate Kane and the blue tinge is just from the lighting. That is a black suit. I never recall him wearing a blue suit, and until recently, he had not worn a blue tie. Just red, purple, black and maybe one or two others.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 7:12:02 GMT -5
I'm actually surprised that anyone who doesn't think this is a big deal collects these things. They're supposed to be as accurate as possible, if you don't care about accuracy why the hell would you even care to buy them in the first place?
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Mar 1, 2015 7:19:05 GMT -5
All of you guys are silly for even thinking of pointing this out.
I am more concerned about Mattel never getting the male wrestler's bulges right. C'mon Mattel!! No way CM punk is packing more heat than Triple H!
Lol.
That's what some of yall sound like.
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Mar 1, 2015 7:20:00 GMT -5
I'm actually surprised that anyone who doesn't think this is a big deal collects these things. They're supposed to be as accurate as possible, if you don't care about accuracy why the hell would you even care to buy them in the first place? Why did people buy Jakks? Those things are far from accurate but people still collected them.
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Mar 1, 2015 7:21:51 GMT -5
Oh, and here is more proof, taken direct from WWE's website. ( published here www.wwe.com/inside/superstar-makeovers-photos ) ¡Twist Of Cinnamon!WWE used this promo photo and clearly supplied Mattel with it for the Corp Kane figure in the BAF set. All version of this photo with him wearing a red tie are photoshopped to have a red tie but were originally blue, including the one used on his superstar WWE profile page.
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Post by WrestlingRebook on Mar 1, 2015 7:34:32 GMT -5
OMG who cares.....your still buying them right? Who cares dude either you buy them and like them or you don't buy them and someone else will no big deal
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 7:59:07 GMT -5
I suppose the mentioned figures are accurate to the source material provided you could say.
I'd bet that many many figures aren't 100 percent nailed on accurate to how they should be.
The elite 32 Rey Mysterio's boots weren't accurate as they had red laces I believe as I watched the match on YouTube.
Swings and roundabouts really.
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Post by Rob7274 on Mar 1, 2015 8:07:11 GMT -5
If it's important to some of are fellow collectors they have a right to bring it up. I find it intresting and I'm glad there's a discussion about it.
As for me. I'm not as bothered by slight attire mistakes as long as there great representions of the guy/gal. (Height, body parts, head sculpts).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 8:19:04 GMT -5
I'm actually surprised that anyone who doesn't think this is a big deal collects these things. They're supposed to be as accurate as possible, if you don't care about accuracy why the hell would you even care to buy them in the first place? Why did people buy Jakks? Those things are far from accurate but people still collected them. Until they lost the license, Jakks rarely made asses of the attires like this.
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Post by TheChosen1 on Mar 1, 2015 8:26:55 GMT -5
If it's important to some of are fellow collectors they have a right to bring it up. I find it intresting and I'm glad there's a discussion about it. As for me. I'm not as bothered by slight attire mistakes as long as there great representions of the guy/gal. (Height, body parts, head sculpts). same here
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 9:05:34 GMT -5
Why did people buy Jakks? Those things are far from accurate but people still collected them. Until they lost the license, Jakks rarely made asses of the attires like this. Yeah, they just made Scott Hall taller than Kevin Nash, and Paul Bearer taller than Undertaker. Nothing wrong with that. I'd say most people, and I mean MOST since these things do sell well overall, are buying figures of their favorite characters, period. They are NOT buying figures of characters in specific one or two-off attires. If there is a missing/extra wristband or inverted color scheme, it's still the character that sells, not the attire. We're not even talking about iconic looks, here. It's one thing if Hogan's DM had purple trunks or something completely out of character, but we're talking about some pretty trivial stuff in my opinion. I'm not saying others aren't entitled to point it out and complain, but this is a public forum and complaints can and often are met with counterarguments.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 9:15:54 GMT -5
Until they lost the license, Jakks rarely made asses of the attires like this. Yeah, they just made Scott Hall taller than Kevin Nash, and Paul Bearer taller than Undertaker. Nothing wrong with that. I'd say most people, and I mean MOST since these things do sell well overall, are buying figures of their favorite characters, period. They are NOT buying figures of characters in specific one or two-off attires. If there is a missing/extra wristband or inverted color scheme, it's still the character that sells, not the attire. We're not even talking about iconic looks, here. It's one thing if Hogan's DM had purple trunks or something completely out of character, but we're talking about some pretty trivial stuff in my opinion. I'm not saying others aren't entitled to point it out and complain, but this is a public forum and complaints can and often are met with counterarguments. Scale has nothing to do with attire inaccuracies. Jakks scale at times was terrible, there's absolutely no questioning that. But they rarely made innacurate figures prior to their losing the license. You can't criticize them for something else that's entirely unrelated to the matter at hand. If you want an accurate Eddie Guerrero figure sitting on your shelf, then the fact that Paul Bearer is taller than the Undertaker means sweet all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 9:20:49 GMT -5
Yeah, they just made Scott Hall taller than Kevin Nash, and Paul Bearer taller than Undertaker. Nothing wrong with that. I'd say most people, and I mean MOST since these things do sell well overall, are buying figures of their favorite characters, period. They are NOT buying figures of characters in specific one or two-off attires. If there is a missing/extra wristband or inverted color scheme, it's still the character that sells, not the attire. We're not even talking about iconic looks, here. It's one thing if Hogan's DM had purple trunks or something completely out of character, but we're talking about some pretty trivial stuff in my opinion. I'm not saying others aren't entitled to point it out and complain, but this is a public forum and complaints can and often are met with counterarguments. Scale has nothing to do with attire inaccuracies. Jakks scale at times was terrible, there's absolutely no questioning that. But they rarely made innacurate figures prior to their losing the license. You can't criticize them for something else that's entirely unrelated to the matter at hand. It goes to the heart of the point you were making. You said "I'm actually surprised that anyone who doesn't think this is a big deal collects these things. They're supposed to be as accurate as possible, if you don't care about accuracy why the hell would you even care to buy them in the first place?" Scale is a major part of accuracy. So if people bought inaccurate Jakks, it stands to reason they will buy "inaccurate" Mattels. Except Jakks' inaccuracies were far more egregious.
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Mar 1, 2015 9:24:24 GMT -5
Scale has nothing to do with attire inaccuracies. Jakks scale at times was terrible, there's absolutely no questioning that. But they rarely made innacurate figures prior to their losing the license. You can't criticize them for something else that's entirely unrelated to the matter at hand. It goes to the heart of the point you were making. You said "I'm actually surprised that anyone who doesn't think this is a big deal collects these things. They're supposed to be as accurate as possible, if you don't care about accuracy why the hell would you even care to buy them in the first place?" Scale is a major part of accuracy. So if people bought inaccurate Jakks, it stands to reason they will buy "inaccurate" Mattels. Except Jakks' inaccuracies were far more egregious. Couldn't have said it better myself. Bravo!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 9:32:26 GMT -5
Scale has nothing to do with attire inaccuracies. Jakks scale at times was terrible, there's absolutely no questioning that. But they rarely made innacurate figures prior to their losing the license. You can't criticize them for something else that's entirely unrelated to the matter at hand. It goes to the heart of the point you were making. You said "I'm actually surprised that anyone who doesn't think this is a big deal collects these things. They're supposed to be as accurate as possible, if you don't care about accuracy why the hell would you even care to buy them in the first place?" Scale is a major part of accuracy. So if people bought inaccurate Jakks, it stands to reason they will buy "inaccurate" Mattels. Except Jakks' inaccuracies were far more egregious. Way to twist my words. You know damn well that I was referring to attire inaccuracies. Besides, it stands to debate that height inaccuracy is far less terrible than putting a guy in an attire he never wore but that's just splitting hairs. I never said people couldn't still buy it, but the fact that people are literally saying that they didn't care made me question why the hell they're collectors. I cared a lot that Jakks was plagued with scale issues. I went to great lengths to correct them as I bought them. Part swapping is a hell of a lot easier, cleaner and gives a better result than trying to accurately paint it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 9:41:16 GMT -5
It goes to the heart of the point you were making. You said "I'm actually surprised that anyone who doesn't think this is a big deal collects these things. They're supposed to be as accurate as possible, if you don't care about accuracy why the hell would you even care to buy them in the first place?" Scale is a major part of accuracy. So if people bought inaccurate Jakks, it stands to reason they will buy "inaccurate" Mattels. Except Jakks' inaccuracies were far more egregious. Way to twist my words. You know damn well that I was referring to attire inaccuracies. Besides, it stands to debate that height inaccuracy is far less terrible than putting a guy in an attire he never wore but that's just splitting hairs. I never said people couldn't still buy it, but the fact that people are literally saying that they didn't care made me question why the hell they're collectors. I cared a lot that Jakks was plagued with scale issues. I went to great lengths to correct them as I bought them. Part swapping is a hell of a lot easier, cleaner and gives a better result than trying to accurately paint it. I'm not twisting your words. We're talking about figures being accurate to their real life counterparts. You asked the question: "why would people buy them in the first place?" and I answered earlier, because they don't care about wrist accessories on middle carders or if Eddie's tights are inverted. How do we know? Because they didn't care that Paul Bearer was taller than Undertaker! And I'm sure that far more people would rather have an ACCURATE depiction (to "twist" your word) of Undertaker and Bearer standing side-by-side on their shelf than Eddie's right leg color swapped with his left. So I'm just answering your original question. "Why would people buy them in the first place?" Because it's still Eddie. At least Mattel's version doesn't have an over-inflated head, which makes the new version . . . wait for it . . . more accurate. EDIT: Oh yeah, depicting an attire never worn is FAR worse than being taller than someone you were ALWAYS shorten then.
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Post by Jordan on Mar 1, 2015 9:47:56 GMT -5
I'm actually surprised that anyone who doesn't think this is a big deal collects these things. They're supposed to be as accurate as possible, if you don't care about accuracy why the hell would you even care to buy them in the first place? I don't buy wrestling JUST because they are accurate, I buy them because I like wrestling and toys. It's WWE and the wrestlers fault anyway not Mattel. It's not going to stop me buying because the tape is a bit too high or the tape colour is switched.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 9:54:19 GMT -5
Way to twist my words. You know damn well that I was referring to attire inaccuracies. Besides, it stands to debate that height inaccuracy is far less terrible than putting a guy in an attire he never wore but that's just splitting hairs. I never said people couldn't still buy it, but the fact that people are literally saying that they didn't care made me question why the hell they're collectors. I cared a lot that Jakks was plagued with scale issues. I went to great lengths to correct them as I bought them. Part swapping is a hell of a lot easier, cleaner and gives a better result than trying to accurately paint it. I'm not twisting your words. We're talking about figures being accurate to their real life counterparts. You asked the question: "why would people buy them in the first place?" and I answered earlier, because they don't care about wrist accessories on middle carders or if Eddie's tights are inverted. How do we know? Because they didn't care that Paul Bearer was taller than Undertaker! And I'm sure that far more people would rather have an ACCURATE depiction (to "twist" your word) of Undertaker and Bearer standing side-by-side on their shelf than Eddie's right leg color swapped with his left. So I'm just answering your original question. "Why would people buy them in the first place?" Because it's still Eddie. At least Mattel's version doesn't have an over-inflated head, which makes the new version . . . wait for it . . . more accurate. EDIT: Oh yeah, depicting an attire never worn is FAR worse than being taller than someone you were ALWAYS shorten then. As someone who owns figures by both Mattel and Jakks, inaccurate attires are the worst. I swapped my Jakks Paul's legs out for Taz's so he's fine now standing next to my exclusive Taker. I shouldn't have had to fix it, but it was at least fixable. The fact is I care both ways. My main point is that people are saying "I don't care", so why are they interested in collecting figures if they don't care if they're authentic or not? So yeah, if you want to continue twisting my words that's fine, I won't bother replying to you any more. BTW, it's "than", not "then". Undertaker was taller THAN Bearer. I'm actually surprised that anyone who doesn't think this is a big deal collects these things. They're supposed to be as accurate as possible, if you don't care about accuracy why the hell would you even care to buy them in the first place? It's WWE and the wrestlers fault anyway not Mattel. Damn Eddie for not wearing his tights the opposite colour.
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