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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 10:00:16 GMT -5
I'm not twisting your words. We're talking about figures being accurate to their real life counterparts. You asked the question: "why would people buy them in the first place?" and I answered earlier, because they don't care about wrist accessories on middle carders or if Eddie's tights are inverted. How do we know? Because they didn't care that Paul Bearer was taller than Undertaker! And I'm sure that far more people would rather have an ACCURATE depiction (to "twist" your word) of Undertaker and Bearer standing side-by-side on their shelf than Eddie's right leg color swapped with his left. So I'm just answering your original question. "Why would people buy them in the first place?" Because it's still Eddie. At least Mattel's version doesn't have an over-inflated head, which makes the new version . . . wait for it . . . more accurate. EDIT: Oh yeah, depicting an attire never worn is FAR worse than being taller than someone you were ALWAYS shorten then. As someone who owns figures by both Mattel and Jakks, inaccurate attires are the worst. I swapped my Jakks Paul's legs out for Taz's so he's fine now standing next to my exclusive Taker. I shouldn't have had to fix it, but it was at least fixable. The fact is I care both ways. My main point is that people are saying "I don't care", so why are they interested in collecting figures if they don't care if they're authentic or not? So yeah, if you want to continue twisting my words that's fine, I won't bother replying to you any more. BTW, it's "than", not "then". Undertaker was taller THAN Bearer. It's WWE and the wrestlers fault anyway not Mattel. Damn Eddie for not wearing his tights the opposite colour. It's "anymore" not "any more" since you want to play grammar police, but your question was already answered twice now by different people: we collect wrestlers not attires. This is the best Eddie we've seen from this era because: 1) his head isn't over-inflated, and 2) his is in scale with other Mattels. So his attire doesn't fit what he wore in the arena, well it does fit what he wore in that picture, does it not? So you can't say "he never wore it."
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Post by William Bartholomew Miekina on Mar 1, 2015 10:03:04 GMT -5
Way to twist my words. You know damn well that I was referring to attire inaccuracies. Besides, it stands to debate that height inaccuracy is far less terrible than putting a guy in an attire he never wore but that's just splitting hairs. I never said people couldn't still buy it, but the fact that people are literally saying that they didn't care made me question why the hell they're collectors. I cared a lot that Jakks was plagued with scale issues. I went to great lengths to correct them as I bought them. Part swapping is a hell of a lot easier, cleaner and gives a better result than trying to accurately paint it. I'm not twisting your words. We're talking about figures being accurate to their real life counterparts. You asked the question: "why would people buy them in the first place?" and I answered earlier, because they don't care about wrist accessories on middle carders or if Eddie's tights are inverted. How do we know? Because they didn't care that Paul Bearer was taller than Undertaker! And I'm sure that far more people would rather have an ACCURATE depiction (to "twist" your word) of Undertaker and Bearer standing side-by-side on their shelf than Eddie's right leg color swapped with his left. So I'm just answering your original question. "Why would people buy them in the first place?" Because it's still Eddie. At least Mattel's version doesn't have an over-inflated head, which makes the new version . . . wait for it . . . more accurate. EDIT: Oh yeah, depicting an attire never worn is FAR worse than being taller than someone you were ALWAYS shorten then. You're my hero!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 10:07:46 GMT -5
As someone who owns figures by both Mattel and Jakks, inaccurate attires are the worst. I swapped my Jakks Paul's legs out for Taz's so he's fine now standing next to my exclusive Taker. I shouldn't have had to fix it, but it was at least fixable. The fact is I care both ways. My main point is that people are saying "I don't care", so why are they interested in collecting figures if they don't care if they're authentic or not? So yeah, if you want to continue twisting my words that's fine, I won't bother replying to you any more. BTW, it's "than", not "then". Undertaker was taller THAN Bearer. Damn Eddie for not wearing his tights the opposite colour. It's "anymore" not "any more" since you want to play grammar police, but your question was already answered twice now by different people: we collect wrestlers not attires. This is the best Eddie we've seen from this era because: 1) his head isn't over-inflated, and 2) his is in scale with other Mattels. So his attire doesn't fit what he wore in the arena, well it does fit what he wore in that picture, does it not? So you can't say "he never wore it." alt-usage-english.org/anymore.html"Anymore" is actually a misspelling of "any more". Regardless, the two mean the same thing. Lol at trying to justify it by the mirrored picture.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 10:14:06 GMT -5
It's "anymore" not "any more" since you want to play grammar police, but your question was already answered twice now by different people: we collect wrestlers not attires. This is the best Eddie we've seen from this era because: 1) his head isn't over-inflated, and 2) his is in scale with other Mattels. So his attire doesn't fit what he wore in the arena, well it does fit what he wore in that picture, does it not? So you can't say "he never wore it." alt-usage-english.org/anymore.html"Anymore" is actually a misspelling of "any more". Regardless, the two mean the same thing. Lol at trying to justify it by the mirrored picture. Did you even read your own article??? It's an "opinion" divided into three camps, all of which have equal weight according to YOUR source! Nice fail. And besides, I thought you weren't going to reply "anymore."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 10:20:48 GMT -5
alt-usage-english.org/anymore.html"Anymore" is actually a misspelling of "any more". Regardless, the two mean the same thing. Lol at trying to justify it by the mirrored picture. Did you even read your own article??? It's an "opinion" divided into three camps, all of which have equal weight according to YOUR source! Nice fail. And besides, I thought you weren't going to reply "anymore." Two of which acknowledge the different formats as being applicable, and all three of which consider the term as existing. Anyway my dear friend, I'll leave you to your denial .
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Post by xavion2004 on Mar 1, 2015 10:38:54 GMT -5
I think every collector has their idiosynchrasies when it comes to their figures. I notice wristbands being too high on the arms, but scale doesn't bother me much unless it's egregiously inaccurate. When the paint lines between the face and hair aren't clean and precise, it bugs the crap out of me, yet I could have two right forearms or two left feet on a figure and never notice it until someone else points it out.
I can't imagine anyone reading these boards, much less taking the time to post here if they didn't love the figures. When someone is disappointed, they'll complain. When someone sees an inaccuracy, they'll point it out. When someone is excited about a new reveal, they'll praise it. All three are equally valid, because all three originate from a love for the figures and the hobby.
Posters complaining, pointing out inaccuracies, or praising figures isn't the problem. The problem (like every other facet of society) is posters making blanket statements about how other posters should think and feel. Saying someone has too much time on their hands or needs to get a life because they point out an inaccuracy, dismissing someone expressing their disappointment over something that didn't turn out they way they hoped it would as a complainer or malcontent, and saying that anyone that isn't bothered by small flaws doesn't care about the figures are all examples of this.
Expressing your opinion, whether it's a complaint, praise, or simply an observation is what makes these boards great. Judging or belittling other posters for their views and opinions is what makes these boards suck.
If you want these boards to be great, address the figures. If you want them to suck, address the posters. I say this to remind myself as well, because I'm not any better than anyone else. I have my fair share of posts that I'm not particularly proud of too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2015 11:57:07 GMT -5
Half of the "mess up" with the attires, wouldn't even be noticed by the majority of people unless they went scouring the internet to check.
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Post by Chip on Mar 1, 2015 15:00:50 GMT -5
pretty interesting to be honest. things like wrist tape don't make or break a figure purchase for me...but its interesting to see stuff like that.
im actually curious as to what Mattel actually uses when designing these figures. Bill has said on numerous occasions that he is a huge wrestling fan, so to see something like an attire "reversed"...its just interesting.
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Post by BROKEN on Mar 1, 2015 15:03:20 GMT -5
Eddie looks great
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Post by Chip on Mar 1, 2015 15:11:39 GMT -5
and enough with people jumping in this thread to bitch. it's a discussion about whether Mattel uses wwe promo photos as references for their attire choices. pretty simple. it wasn't a bitch fest, it wasn't a crying/whining brigade. in fact the people who jumped in here to bitch about the thread are the ones who've made it a whine bar. and if you got a problem with East Coast.... you got a problem with me
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Post by kgchampion on Mar 1, 2015 15:18:13 GMT -5
Interesting observation. I never noticed.
Some people are getting really worked up over toys. They're just toys, guys. They're a hell of a lot more accurate than the stuff I had as a kid. I had Owen Hart and Jeff Jarrett figures that were literally the EXACT SAME FIGURE head to toe, just painted differently. I'll forgive Mattel for basing attires on mirrored promo pics.
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Post by venomeratt on Mar 1, 2015 17:33:15 GMT -5
I read a page or two then stopped. In my opinion its interesting to note the mirrored or photoshopped promo pics being made into attire on the figures.... still going to buy them though. The End.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Mar 4, 2015 13:41:04 GMT -5
Hopefully Mattel do not strictly use Promo pics, or our current Sting figure is going to have untucked tights!
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Post by alquelude on Mar 4, 2015 16:52:31 GMT -5
I thought this was a well thought out, valid post, that was thought provoking and interesting. While things like which leg or armband are gold or purple as opposed to back don't bother me, I could see bigger issues popping up because of the use of promo pics. Also, there is a promo pic of crush with the other 2 members of demolition that is the obvious reference for his figure, which might have not been the best way to go
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Post by kingnothing ~ Hardwired... on Mar 4, 2015 17:23:36 GMT -5
I get the frustration towards inaccuracies, but I also get that some people are bothered by somethings versus others. It's a matter of personal choice.
With that said, did anyone notice Monday night that Nikki was wearing her wrist bands high up her arms, like in the proto pic in the first post? They were either gold or silver so they didn't match the outfit color, but they were in the right place.
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Mar 4, 2015 19:12:37 GMT -5
I see nothing different about Nikki's wrist tape. You people are freaking picky.
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Post by East Coast on Mar 4, 2015 19:34:44 GMT -5
I see nothing different about Nikki's wrist tape. You people are freaking picky. well, i made the picture smaller. If u look at the normal pic RSC posted and don't notice, u blind Hopefully Mattel do not strictly use Promo pics, or our current Sting figure is going to have untucked tights! he had them tucked at Fastlane. he'll probably have them tucked for Mania. but they were untucked for the promo pics, and at Survivor series. I really won't be surprised if we get the untucked pants version. Because thats kinda what the premise of this thread was supposed to be about. Before everyone jumped in to call me a whiny piss baby.
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Post by theaxehennig on Mar 5, 2015 8:26:42 GMT -5
Oh man... That's not good! I'm nowhere near the level of a multi-billion dollar company and even I know to check photos and videos for accuracy. Actually, the only reason I subscribe to WWE Network is to check a character's look for accuracy!
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Post by RV F'N D on Mar 5, 2015 8:51:08 GMT -5
I feel safe on Sting's tights being tucked on his figures just because it would require a new mold to do them untucked lol. To me the promo pics have caused some pretty big errors. Number 1 for me are RVD's black shorts he wears under his singlets. They have appeared in 99% of all his matches in the last 20+ years but are not visible in some promo pics, and have not made it onto his Mattel figs. Huge omission. I can paint them on pretty easily but I shouldn't have to.
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Post by East Coast on Mar 5, 2015 19:40:46 GMT -5
I feel safe on Sting's tights being tucked on his figures just because it would require a new mold to do them untucked lol. To me the promo pics have caused some pretty big errors. Number 1 for me are RVD's black shorts he wears under his singlets. They have appeared in 99% of all his matches in the last 20+ years but are not visible in some promo pics, and have not made it onto his Mattel figs. Huge omission. I can paint them on pretty easily but I shouldn't have to. the RVD one drove me nuts. I understand you need the promo pics, because they give you close-up shots of the attire. But it only takes about 5 mins of googling......or a good knowledge of current product to know that RVD wears black shorts
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