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Post by cmiller79 on Mar 10, 2015 9:28:40 GMT -5
Both of them need the win...so double count out or double DQ finish nobody wins nobody loses
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 9:52:29 GMT -5
Taker wins then thanks Wyatt on Raw for ressurecting him. That way Taker lives on for his double retirement match with Sting and Wyatt comes off looking good.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 9:56:47 GMT -5
Serves no purpose if you ask me. In fact, it irritates me that this match is even happening in the first place, given the circumstances of last year. Taker just suffered the biggest loss, no just in his career but in Wrestlemania history. Now he's going to come back with no mention of it at all like it didn't even happen? In my opinion, there's no good that can come out of this match without making the other Guy look bad. Taker should have sat this mania out and cut a promo the next night on Raw about how the streak is over and so is his career, only to be interrupted by Sting to start a years build to their retirement match at next years Wrestlemania. Done.
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Post by MacReady on Mar 10, 2015 10:08:32 GMT -5
It's a tricky situation WWE put themselves in for sure.
I mean, what does Bray get by losing, especially if Taker isn't around much after beating Wyatt? Then again, after going 21 straight Wrestlemanias with wins, do you now have Taker (who ONLY shows up for Wrestlemania) continue to LOSE year after year until he retires?
I know everybody is all about "oh well if they put on a good match and Bray looks strong, it doesn't matter who wins or loses." but it REALLY does, these are two guys with A LOT at stake character wise. A loss hurts both of their characters, but a forced win doesn't do much for them either, without hurting the other guy...
I'm very interested to see what happens to say the least.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 10, 2015 10:38:51 GMT -5
Chip hit the nail on the head. They've booked themselves into a corner. A Bray Wyatt loss pretty much kills all momentum he's regained in the back half of 2014. It would make the mauling of Dean Ambrose even worse. However, the Undertaker would look bad losing at two straight WrestleManias after winning 21 straight. It's going to be "meh" either way and another match on the card that doesn't really interest me.
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Post by McBlake on Mar 10, 2015 11:02:14 GMT -5
While it also craps all over the Undertaker's legacy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 11:02:51 GMT -5
While it also craps all over the Undertaker's legacy. I really don't see it that way, but sure.
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Post by McBlake on Mar 10, 2015 11:05:49 GMT -5
While it also craps all over the Undertaker's legacy. I really don't see it that way, but sure. I really don't see how a strong showing from Wyatt against the Undertaker makes him look weak, but sure. The fact he's hand picked to go up against The Undertaker in the first place means a lot for his career before they've even had so much as a stare down.
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Post by JC Motors on Mar 10, 2015 11:28:04 GMT -5
It ends with disappointment...no matter what. Sadly with the streak being broken already, the match will be just that
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 11:29:09 GMT -5
I really don't see it that way, but sure. I really don't see how a strong showing from Wyatt against the Undertaker makes him look weak, but sure. I guess you haven't seen Brays build up. Losing now hurts him no matter what.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Mar 10, 2015 11:48:22 GMT -5
Taker becomes superman and wins while Bray looks like a complete joke after weeks of calling Taker out.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Mar 10, 2015 12:30:39 GMT -5
Hopefully with Bray getting Tombstoned and Taker being 22 - 1 at Wrestlemania.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Mar 10, 2015 13:45:33 GMT -5
Taker wins, but makes Bray look strong......then Undertaker and Sting begin the slow burn to Wrestlemania 32. But will Roman look strong, as well?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 13:54:51 GMT -5
Bray's going to lose.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Mar 10, 2015 14:08:20 GMT -5
I'd like to see a Bray go over, then Taker has his retirement match at WM32 for his redemption. End of career.
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Post by Sleazyness on Mar 10, 2015 14:22:37 GMT -5
I feel like in a way, WWE has backed themselves into a corner with this match up. Cause in a sense, if Bray happens to be victorious, doesn't that mean he could have been the one to end the streak? That would also be odd to have Taker leave the business on a note of two losses at Mania and consecutively on his way out.
On the other hand, we have Taker being victorious only for Bray to be defeated and left with minimal direction. Surely he wouldn't lose at Mania and then just act like it never happened right? He would try to milk another match or some sort. This would also be weird to have Taker beat a green up and comer who is (IMO) a pretty big name right now. If they want Taker to retire with that last win, why have him beat Bray and not a jobber? This would in a sense make Bray look weak. WWE would have to have Bray be put over majorly, but still lose.
Idk, something about this whole match is missing an element and I'm not sure what it is. There seems to be some sort of character mess up with the Undertaker. We seen him go through several phases and Bray has referred to him as "The Lord of Darkness","Phenom", and "Deadman" I believe. Those gimmicks were all at a different time right? I know they all tie together, but it's hard for me to grasp the storytelling when what Taker is now is so unknown. We know of him as those things, but if I were telling a story and Taker lost after 21 years or whatever, I wouldn't have be referring to him as the Phenom or LoD anymore. That's just me.
I see great opportunity in this mix, but for this build to truly be amazing, it needs Taker meeting him Face to Face or him cutting a promo of some sort. He has been so left in the dark that this whole thing is one sided from a storytelling standpoint.
I hope this makes sense. I could be completely off. I'm just an 18 year old lol!
I just hope this ends up being a classic and benefits Bray along with Taker.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 17:47:47 GMT -5
i was under the impression that it's pretty much a no brainer that wyatt wins and sends taker into retirement,which leads him headlining next years hall class
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Post by RKOrton #ThankYouLesnar on Mar 10, 2015 18:29:35 GMT -5
In my opinion, he got screwed when he lost to a part timer such as brock The streak should have continued Taker makes 1 appearance a year. He is a part timer like Brock, maybe more so.
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Post by marino13 on Mar 10, 2015 19:18:28 GMT -5
I honestly have no idea. It's a lose/ lose situation.
I gotta say though I was hoping last night that when the lights went out that they flickered a bit. Back on back off. Just to show Taker does not have his "abilities" that he once did. Show that he is becoming weaker while Bray is becoming stronger. Nice way to pass the torch even if Taker wins at WM.
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Post by jakksking1 on Mar 10, 2015 19:29:08 GMT -5
I think Bray wins. Taker is a straight up pro and is going to put someone over on his way out as that is as old school as it gets. Let's cut the talk about tarnishing Takers legacy. Undertaker is in all regards the most respected wrestler of the past 30 years. He is Vince's greatest creation and is one of the greatest wrestlers and characters of all time. He could do the Macarena mid ring then lose to Sin Cara and would not lose any credibility.
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