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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jun 24, 2016 12:22:26 GMT -5
Wait... I thought we weren't allowed to plug our blogs on here, but this is allowed?? Just curious as to why?? We aren't allowed to plug our blogs? I hadn't heard that. I usually post these to get people (though it's mostly marino) to discuss these topics. If it isn't allowed than I won't post anymore. I tried to post my blog on here a few years ago and I was told we weren't allowed to do that. That's why I was curious as to how you were getting away with it. Maybe the rules have changed since??
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Post by marino13 on Jun 24, 2016 12:24:02 GMT -5
We aren't allowed to plug our blogs? I hadn't heard that. I usually post these to get people (though it's mostly marino) to discuss these topics. If it isn't allowed than I won't post anymore. I tried to post my blog on here a few years ago and I was told we weren't allowed to do that. That's why I was curious as to how you were getting away with it. Maybe the rules have changed since?? If not, that's news to me. I'll make some inquires.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 24, 2016 13:09:20 GMT -5
Kind of agree more with the other guy on this one. I think AJ is easily wrestler of the first-half and none of those guys, especially not Sami, are even in his league for debate imo. Ambrose has had the moment of the year, and his match with HHH was great, but his year on the whole hasn't been as good as AJ's imo. Drew McIntyre is a valid mention, but he's always going to default to second place since everything AJ is doing is more important since it's happening in WWE. I think AJ ends up winning the Smackdown world title before the year is out. So that should help.
I think Dean carrying around the case longer would have produced a bigger moment. Knowing what we know now though, it was hot shotted for a reason. It didn't take away from the moment but I really think there was tons of stuff they could have done with Dean and the case. With Roman and the draft coming, I get it though.
Agree 100% with Kev on King. Glad you brought up his history of leaving too. I'm hoping for Graves to replace him, permanently.
A point of contention, which comes as zero surprise to you I'm sure, is tonight's ROH show. I absolutely loved what they did to end Global Wars. Despite that, I'm only at about a 6/10 honestly. I'm super excited for the tag title match and the tv title match. Everything else feels like house show filler. I'm 0% excited about Lethal vs Jay again. The fight without honor has been a nice slow build, and Silas and ACH have gotten a decent enough build, but I can't say I'm expecting a ton out of either. The BC tornado tag is a filler, get them over, match. I'm hoping for more story development between Cole and Lethal to end the show.
I really liked your point about forcing people to watch Smackdown. I had the same thought process of having the first live show be the first time you see the new rosters, but what if you don't particularly love the roster. So yeah, agreed.
Good stuff man. These are always a fun read.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 8, 2016 9:52:48 GMT -5
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Post by marino13 on Jul 8, 2016 10:21:15 GMT -5
You forgot the add the link ([/]) thingy, so I went ahead and did it for ya. Very good article again. I enjoy reading these. I agreed with just about everything thing you said. Especially paying too much for PPV shows now. Especially if you just want to see Brock. You pay all that money and the fight might be four minutes long. And I agree about Lawler. His "heel turn" has made him better, but I still want a fresh voice for the new show. Let Lawler do the HOF.
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Post by Evil Abed on Jul 8, 2016 10:45:40 GMT -5
Agreed with everything you said
I can't bring myself to the idea of paying 50+ for PPVs anymore, the network has spoiled me as well, and the CWC classic has me the most excited for a WWE show in a long time outside of NXT.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 8, 2016 11:03:17 GMT -5
My scorecard:
1. Kev - PPV isn't worth more than $10 a month anymore. Period. Good for you for feeling that way. I agree, especially with Jones off the card and the Ghost of Anderson Silva filling his spot.
2. Tie - I disagree with both of you. The King situation turned out to be bullsh*t that got dropped. Domestic violence is one thing. Domestic disputes are another. WWE draws more attention to themselves by their actions than they do that of the "offenders" in most situations. Hulk Hogan being fired was made a bigger deal by WWE than anyone else. It was kind of embarrassing. I'd rather WWE address the facts of situation than immediately distancing themselves in these situations. Moose is paying for situations that don't have anything to do with him. If it turns out he gets hired down the road then I can agree with WWE's stance but as of now I feel it's an unjust situation for a guy chasing a dream.
3. Todd - Most TNA fans are WWE fans. We've seen that proven in the ratings. TNA has a great on-air product right now. I can understand them not wanting to change nights, again, but they have to imo.
4. Kev - x1000. Agree with literally everything you said.
5. Kev - This was close to a tie because Todd nailed it with one sentence, but I agree with you in how long King has actually been a problem and how horrible the Raw team is right now. So you get extra points for fully stating the issue.
6. Kev - My excitement is the same and I echo the sentiment in seeing guys like Tajiri and TBK back in more veteran roles. Who would of thought that WWE could potentially house a ZSJ vs Ibushi match. We live in the twilight zone.
Winner, with a judges of score of 5-2, by unanimous decision, The Kevstaaa.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 26, 2016 7:19:38 GMT -5
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Oct 14, 2016 6:59:04 GMT -5
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Post by marino13 on Oct 14, 2016 11:44:38 GMT -5
Another good debate. Wish we could do something like this here, but it would probably end with fighting.
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Post by punksnotdead on Oct 14, 2016 14:03:00 GMT -5
Scorecard:
1. Kev - Easily decided. Jack talked about Goldberg not having good matches but he had good/great matches with Raven, DDP, Kevin Nash, and Scott Steiner in a relatively short period of time in WCW. So that was irrelevant to the point, and wrong, imo. Kev brought up relevant 2016 points about Brock's piss poor work against talented guys and asked the obvious question of, why do we want to see this?
2. Kev - Paige is a love struck child and I believe WWE denied her the release she asked for when ADR left. So she's taking matters into her own hands. She's not stupid, just immature.
3. Tie, I guess. It's really just a tough question that I think was irrelevant to ask. Eddie Edwards win did come out of nowhere. To the point where I don't think it was fair to EE to even give it to him in a moment that wasn't built. Even with that though, I have no idea on TNA's thought process as it pertains to Lashley and his MMA career. I honestly think Lashley got the title too long and then faced the wrong guy at BFG, but that's neither here nor there now. I agree with Kev on heel EC3. He's top heel in the biz material in that role. The babyface run has been hit or miss. Extremely talented guy though either way.
4. Kev - While I agree with both of you, Kev pointed out the biggest flaw, which is the segregation of the division with the rest of Raw and the lack of identity for these guys. I love TBK. That's genuinely the only element of the CW Division holding my interest. Kendrick back on my TV is awesome for me but WWE as a whole would be so much better off if they built up these new stars and told their audience why they should care. TJP hasn't been doing a bad job either but he's a champion I don't care about.
5. Tie - You're both right. Too similar of a sentiment to pick a winner. I kind of agree with Jack's fear of bending to WWE but with older content, which I think is what ends up on the Network, I don't think that will be an issue.
6. Kev - Rollins and Owens should main event the show, period. Charlotte and Sasha having a HIAC match is historical enough. Walk before you run, and don't force it. It's going to happen but that isn't the spot. There isn't enough conviction between the two. Miz and Ziggler are best friends. I'd like to see Charlotte and Sasha get to that place with their feud. Maybe that level of trust isn't there yet but once they hit that place they can close down a PPV. I'd honestly rather see Sasha and Becky get the opportunity but I'm sure Charlotte will be involved when it does happen.
7. Jack - He brought up the eventual Luke on Bray turn. It's going to be a big moment. Otherwise, I agree with both of you. Luke and Bray fit together and you don't lose anything in keeping them together. I'd even be fine with Bray and Harper chasing the tag titles together.
This was one of Kevs more decisive wins. When you guys weren't saying the same thing, you were making better points in a more precise way.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 4, 2016 8:10:04 GMT -5
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 18, 2016 7:52:38 GMT -5
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Post by marino13 on Nov 18, 2016 10:42:26 GMT -5
Thank you for continuing to post these.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 25, 2016 9:31:08 GMT -5
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 16, 2016 11:15:44 GMT -5
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Post by punksnotdead on Dec 16, 2016 13:06:27 GMT -5
1. Point Kev - I love Hero, immesnely, but the revolving door argument is as valid as any that can be made. Plus, if he returns to NXT, that's a super Indy Show anyway. Independent wrestling has lost everyone from CM Punk to Austin Aries, and we still keep seeing guys emerge time-after-time. That's what is great about that cycle. Hopefully this gives us a chance to see Chris Hero in a more prominent role within WWE now that the landscape is different than when he was there before. I think the positives for Hero returning to WWE outweigh the negatives for wrestling fans by quite a bit.
2. Tie - I agree with both of you. To Kev's point, you can't count out WWE's ability to put him over. To Sean's point, you have to look ahead to Mania. It's likely going to be Jericho vs Owens and then Roman Reigns doing something far more important at Mania. So yeah, I think the smart money is on Reigns.
3. Point Kev - Kev brought up Nigel as a potential GM for NXT. I see him as Regal's eventual replacement and I think that's a role where you can maximize his talents. I think the UK Tournament is more of a crash course with Michael Cole than an actual test, which is what I think Sean was trying to get at, but couldn't communicate.
4. Point Sean - I don't even fully agree with Sean but Okada vs Omega should be amazing and Kev's outright hate for ROH since Cole joined the BC has been so incredibly strange. Cole and O'Reilly had a great match at Final Battle, and they're going to end it all at WK11. The IWGP Jr hw and IC Championship matches should have gotten you to at least a 5 out of 10. Neither tag championship matches is particularly exciting but the 6-man open weight match should be insane. Plus, Cody is working at WK, which is a novelty but still really cool.
5. Point Kev - I'm with you on the "against all reason" and completely agree that Sasha vs Bayley is what should happen at Mania. Despite that, Charlotte will still win and keep this PPV streak alive that seemingly nobody cares about it. It doesn't make sense, the talent isn't there and they've devalued their own women's division, but come hell or high water, WWE just keeps wooing. Sean presented the same triple threat scenario from Mania 32, only with Bayley. I'm not saying it won't happen, but it definitely shouldn't.
6. Tie, I guess but lean more towards Kev on this one - It feels like a throwaway PPV, but still, the prospect of getting something good out of Rollins/Jericho, Reigns/Owens, Zayn/Strowman, and Charlotte/Sasha is high. So that puts me around a 5-6 out of 10. Do I think it's must see? Nope. In fact, I'll probably watch it on Monday at some point after I hear how it went. Raw just isn't telling compelling stories. I think they did a good job on Monday with New Day, and then that main event but that's a non factor on Sunday. Rollins is looking past Jericho and Owens, so why shouldn't we? Reigns vs Owens doesn't even feel as important as Owens vs Jericho, even though the top title is on the line. Cass vs Rusev is just not something I care about in general, and, like Kev, I am just looking forward to Sasha and Charlotte getting away from each other.
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Post by marino13 on Dec 16, 2016 17:29:38 GMT -5
Another good debate. The only thing I really disagreed with you about was the excitement level for the RAW PPV. I'm actually excited to watch it. I usually go in with an opened mind. Even though some here have their reviews ready before the show even begins.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 16, 2016 17:39:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the feedback guys! Always appreciated!
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 17, 2016 8:14:14 GMT -5
4. Point Sean - I don't even fully agree with Sean but Okada vs Omega should be amazing and Kev's outright hate for ROH since Cole joined the BC has been so incredibly strange. Cole and O'Reilly had a great match at Final Battle, and they're going to end it all at WK11. The IWGP Jr hw and IC Championship matches should have gotten you to at least a 5 out of 10. Neither tag championship matches is particularly exciting but the 6-man open weight match should be insane. Plus, Cody is working at WK, which is a novelty but still really cool. I thought Cole/O'Reilly was great at Final Battle last year and their Supercard of Honor match in April was great. The Final Battle one didn't click with me, plus it was yet another case of ROH waiting too long to pull the trigger on someone. I don't care to see it yet again at WK11. Part of it is me not really caring about NJPW, ROH or Cole at this point.
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