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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 17:44:17 GMT -5
Stannis you f*ckin prick. Who the in ten types of f*ck are we meant to be rooting for in the Winterfell situation now? I genuinely cant root for either because they are both absolute SCUM. Stannis kills the Boltons, Brienne shows up and shanks Stannis. That's what I want to see happen. I don't think Brienne will have forgotten about how Renly was killed.
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Post by Rule 30 on Jun 8, 2015 18:10:30 GMT -5
I don't get all the people (not here, other places, like Reddit) who are complaining that burning Shireen was out of character for Stannis. You mean the guy who's known for killing family and burning people alive killed a family member and burned someone alive? What?!
Still, that was arguably the saddest scene in the entire show.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 18:36:35 GMT -5
That... that was pretty tough to watch. Can't wait to see Stannis die now. Stannis you f*ckin prick. Who the in ten types of f*ck are we meant to be rooting for in the Winterfell situation now? I genuinely cant root for either because they are both absolute SCUM. Stannis kills the Boltons, Brienne shows up and shanks Stannis. I really hope that's what they end up doing. At least the Dany stuff was awesome.
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Post by Rule 30 on Jun 8, 2015 18:42:17 GMT -5
I don't see Stannis or the Boltons falling next episode. I'm expecting a massive cliffhanger this season.
Or everyone at Winterfell dies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2015 18:43:28 GMT -5
I don't see Stannis or the Boltons falling next episode. I'm expecting a massive cliffhanger this season. Or everyone at Winterfell dies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Yeah pretty sure it's just going to be a cliffhanger. Either way, I'm hyped.
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Post by Rule 30 on Jun 8, 2015 18:52:11 GMT -5
I don't see Stannis or the Boltons falling next episode. I'm expecting a massive cliffhanger this season. Or everyone at Winterfell dies. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Yeah pretty sure it's just going to be a cliffhanger. Either way, I'm hyped. There's too much going on for it not to end a cliffhanger. The battle (judging by the preview, Stannis seems to be getting back on track) between Stannis and the Boltons with Brienne somewhere in the middle could take a whole episode by itself. Dany, Tyrio, Daario, and Jorah still have to deal with the Sons of the Harpy, and who knows where Drogon and Dany went off to. Arya needs to kill Ser Meryn. Cersei and the Tyrells need to go on trial. Jon probably has more than a few problems to deal with at the Wall. And Mace is on his never ending quest to fulfill maximum goobery potential.
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Post by The Future on Jun 9, 2015 8:32:44 GMT -5
Pretty sure Dany and her crew will bounce from Meereen now that her peace offering fiance is dead, they'll save the Cersei/Tyrells trial for next season, Jon and the wildlings will just settle in back at the wall and Arya probably won't kill Meryn because it's part of Arya and not a faceless girl.
I expect the battle at Winterfell to be a majority of the drama, with the Boltons going up against Stannis, Sansa trying to escape, Brienne and Pod joining in and hopefully some direwolves. Maybe Jon does come to join the fray because Ser Davos reached the wall and his business past the wall was done? Doubt that, but I feel like we'll get a majority of this finale in Winterfell, which I welcome, because the ice-bound battles are always the best on this show.
Might not get to watch this live as it happens, so if anyone spoils it for me in Banter, yamo kill you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 9:45:03 GMT -5
Pretty sure Dany and her crew will bounce from Meereen now that her peace offering fiance is dead, they'll save the Cersei/Tyrells trial for next season, Jon and the wildlings will just settle in back at the wall and Arya probably won't kill Meryn because it's part of Arya and not a faceless girl. I expect the battle at Winterfell to be a majority of the drama, with the Boltons going up against Stannis, Sansa trying to escape, Brienne and Pod joining in and hopefully some direwolves. Maybe Jon does come to join the fray because Ser Davos reached the wall and his business past the wall was done? Doubt that, but I feel like we'll get a majority of this finale in Winterfell, which I welcome, because the ice-bound battles are always the best on this show. Might not get to watch this live as it happens, so if anyone spoils it for me in Banter, yamo kill you. Definitely not watching live, so if Banter spoils it for me I'm getting banter locked and banned in the process. Marv style baby
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jun 9, 2015 12:56:26 GMT -5
Leadership candidates in Westeros
All three candidates are faced with a problem of varying size. Here are their responses:
Candidate one faces a tough problem of angry and disloyal subjects on the brink of rioting. She responds to a threat by running away, abandoning her friends, protectors (without whom she would certainly be dead) and confidents in the middle of a very hostile situation.
Candidate two faces a very tough problem of likely defeat(and therefore death for he and his men) in battle. He knows that magic works, and so chooses to sacrifice his own daughter in order to inspire loyalty and belief in his men on the road to victory.
Candidate three faces by far the toughest problem of a super-powerful, murderous race of zombies intent on the deaths of he and everyone around him. He responds by attempting to save as many innocents as possible before throwing himself into the fray of battle despite certain defeat; he then becomes the only human in 10,000 years to kill one of the enemy in open combat, and lives to lead his men and the saved innocents to a safe haven.
Which candidate would you choose as leader?
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jun 9, 2015 13:01:24 GMT -5
As for actual ep 9:
I hope Dany comes and burns all of Winterfell (Brienne, Stannis, Roose, Ramsay and Sansa all die) and then promptly gets eaten by her dragons.
I mean, I do sort of understand why he did it, though that does not mean I condone it. In his mind he loves his daughter but he is sacrificing her for thousands of lives in his army and millions in the realm (remember, in this world magic DOES work and so sacrificing her should be a guarantee of victory). But f*ck me that was cold.
Jon is a lad.
Dany is still boring, and the CGI struggled in her bit. Her flying away opens the door to her FINALLY leaving Mereen for good though.
The trailer, combined with the description, for episode 10 makes it look like there is way too much to fit in (and therefore nothing will get the attention it needs). We need to see: Stannis vs. Roose & Ramsay (the previous 2 battles of this size had whole episodes), Brienne, Sansa, Arya, Dany, Cersei, Jaime, Tyrion & Jorah and Jon! That's way too much. I would leave Dany for S6 (she had a good ending last episode), move Arya's bit to a previous episode (if possible), and leave Jaime for the rest of this season. Maybe Tyrion and Jorah too.
Book spoilers below in white:
Hopefully Jon getting stabbed is the final moment, and his resurrection is the end of S6 Ep1. Shireen's burning also looks set to happen in the books to bring Jon back to life, thus providing the 'stone' in the Azor Ahai prophecy for him. However, if Stannis doesn't sanction the burning then him doing it in the show is a cr*ppy change; by far the worst so far (and I'm someone who is supportive of the vast majority of the changes in the show).
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Post by Rule 30 on Jun 9, 2015 13:38:32 GMT -5
Leadership candidates in WesterosAll three candidates are faced with a problem of varying size. Here are their responses: Candidate one faces a tough problem of angry and disloyal subjects on the brink of rioting. She responds to a threat by running away, abandoning her friends, protectors (without whom she would certainly be dead) and confidents in the middle of a very hostile situation. Candidate two faces a very tough problem of likely defeat(and therefore death for he and his men) in battle. He knows that magic works, and so chooses to sacrifice his own daughter in order to inspire loyalty and belief in his men on the road to victory. Candidate three faces by far the toughest problem of a super-powerful, murderous race of zombies intent on the deaths of he and everyone around him. He responds by attempting to save as many innocents as possible before throwing himself into the fray of battle despite certain defeat; he then becomes the only human in 10,000 years to kill one of the enemy in open combat, and lives to lead his men and the saved innocents to a safe haven. Which candidate would you choose as leader? I feel like saying Dany ran away and abandoned her friends is a little harsh. Dany flew away because she was concerned about Drogon. The Harpys were pretty much done at that point anyway. The last few stragglers who didn't run off wouldn't be too much for Daario, Jorah, and the Unsullied to handle, as they were already kicking their ass before Drogon showed up. Maybe because for some reason they decided to act like Batman Arkham villains and attack one at a time. Also I feel like many of Stannis' men are going to be put off by Shireen's sacrifice. Many of the them looked horrified as it was going on, and I highly doubt Davos will let this go quietly. And Davos is pretty much the only competent adviser Stannis has.
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Post by Rule 30 on Jun 9, 2015 13:40:53 GMT -5
Also, I imagine more than half of the episode will be about Stannis vs. The Boltons vs. Brienne. Jon, Dany, and Tyrion pretty much have their stories wrapped up this season, they won't need to spend much time on them. We'll probably get a quick scene of Arya killing Meryn Trant, but I'm not too sure about Cersei and the Tyrells. They'll probably take the second most amount of time behind Winterfell.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jun 9, 2015 13:57:10 GMT -5
Leadership candidates in WesterosAll three candidates are faced with a problem of varying size. Here are their responses: Candidate one faces a tough problem of angry and disloyal subjects on the brink of rioting. She responds to a threat by running away, abandoning her friends, protectors (without whom she would certainly be dead) and confidents in the middle of a very hostile situation. Candidate two faces a very tough problem of likely defeat(and therefore death for he and his men) in battle. He knows that magic works, and so chooses to sacrifice his own daughter in order to inspire loyalty and belief in his men on the road to victory. Candidate three faces by far the toughest problem of a super-powerful, murderous race of zombies intent on the deaths of he and everyone around him. He responds by attempting to save as many innocents as possible before throwing himself into the fray of battle despite certain defeat; he then becomes the only human in 10,000 years to kill one of the enemy in open combat, and lives to lead his men and the saved innocents to a safe haven. Which candidate would you choose as leader? I feel like saying Dany ran away and abandoned her friends is a little harsh. Dany flew away because she was concerned about Drogon. The Harpys were pretty much done at that point anyway. The last few stragglers who didn't run off wouldn't be too much for Daario, Jorah, and the Unsullied to handle, as they were already kicking their ass before Drogon showed up. Maybe because for some reason they decided to act like Batman Arkham villains and attack one at a time. Also I feel like many of Stannis' men are going to be put off by Shireen's sacrifice. Many of the them looked horrified as it was going on, and I highly doubt Davos will let this go quietly. And Davos is pretty much the only competent adviser Stannis has. She quite clearly wanted him to fly imo. Even if the Harpys are done in the arena, there are thousands in the city that are buoyed by her leaving and likely encouraged to press on by attacking her advisors and supporters. Considering the Harpy's aren't 1/10th as dangerous as what Jon faced at Hardhome she did pretty poorly compared to him (and has been all season if not before). And they totally weren't kicking the Harpy's ass - they were surrounded and the implication that they would die were it not for Drogon was very clear. I was being sarcastic about Stannis - I agree his men may be put off and Davos will be horrified.
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Post by Mikeo on Jun 9, 2015 14:49:06 GMT -5
God Damn it Stannis....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2015 16:44:26 GMT -5
Dany>Snow for me still.
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Post by sonstuds on Jun 9, 2015 19:43:42 GMT -5
Leadership candidates in WesterosAll three candidates are faced with a problem of varying size. Here are their responses: Candidate one faces a tough problem of angry and disloyal subjects on the brink of rioting. She responds to a threat by running away, abandoning her friends, protectors (without whom she would certainly be dead) and confidents in the middle of a very hostile situation. Candidate two faces a very tough problem of likely defeat(and therefore death for he and his men) in battle. He knows that magic works, and so chooses to sacrifice his own daughter in order to inspire loyalty and belief in his men on the road to victory. Candidate three faces by far the toughest problem of a super-powerful, murderous race of zombies intent on the deaths of he and everyone around him. He responds by attempting to save as many innocents as possible before throwing himself into the fray of battle despite certain defeat; he then becomes the only human in 10,000 years to kill one of the enemy in open combat, and lives to lead his men and the saved innocents to a safe haven. Which candidate would you choose as leader? You forgot Candidate 4, whose response to his problem is to pout in his room and refuse to eat.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jun 10, 2015 2:00:28 GMT -5
Out of interest, may I ask why? She's quite unpopular among the GoT fans I know. A few girls I know like her as a strong female character, but they agree that she isn't a competent leader.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 10:34:38 GMT -5
Tyrion has spiced up Danys arc no end......
A part of me doesn't see Stannis getting to Winterfell at all this season.....and I hope to Christ I'm wrong. The bastard did Stannis serious damage with his 20 man raid......like him or nor he has a serious skull on him for combat like.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 10, 2015 11:02:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2015 11:39:48 GMT -5
I don't know. She's not ready to lead, I know, but I'm more invested in her getting the throne. Snow I just see as a soldier.
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