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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 13:33:04 GMT -5
The "sports entertainment" business runs rampant with sin, we would have a very thin roster of memorabilia if we chose to ostracize every performer because or their past alleged histories. This business is infested with the worst illegal and immoral behaviors including murder, suicide, accidental death, sexual assault, racism, bullying, exploitation, drug abuse, pay-cuts, drug trafficking, backstabbing, politicking, violence, bad role models, and it is one of the most grueling and unforgiving lines of work in the world where these athletes push their bodies beyond human standards. Alleged is one thing, tried and convicted is another. All about opinions though thank god
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Post by saintpatrick33 on May 21, 2015 18:07:16 GMT -5
...troll-tastic! And if Mattel is the "swiss cheese" legend lineup, then Jakks must be the Black Hole legend lineup... how can you possibly have a WWE/F Legends lineup without Macho Man and Steamboat...? Abso Fn Lutely First dont take things personally as its not opinion its fact and keep twisting it anyway you want and always try and make it Jakks vs mattel if that sugar coats the disappointment for you . I have no horse in this race other then the plain truth and the truth is you will never see 1/4 of The Jakks CS lineup even if Mattel had the contract for 100 years . Not opinion just the fact so dont be defensive and accept it for what it is and youll be happier as these hope and pray lists are pretty unrealistic as it wont ever happen because of $$$
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Post by Mr Ezekiel Jackson If Ya Nasty on May 21, 2015 18:21:59 GMT -5
Twist it anyway you want and always try and make it Jakks vs mattel if that sugar coats the facts for you as I have no horse in this race other then the plain truth and the truth is you will never see 1/4 of The Jakks CS lineup even if Mattel had the contract for 100 years . Not opinion just the facts My life isn't going to feel incomplete because Mattel probably won't make folks like Johnny Rod, Brooklyn Brawler, or Ivan Putski.
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Post by saintpatrick33 on May 21, 2015 18:33:41 GMT -5
Twist it anyway you want and always try and make it Jakks vs mattel if that sugar coats the facts for you as I have no horse in this race other then the plain truth and the truth is you will never see 1/4 of The Jakks CS lineup even if Mattel had the contract for 100 years . Not opinion just the facts My life isn't going to feel incomplete because Mattel probably won't make folks like Johnny Rod, Brooklyn Brawler, or Ivan Putski. I wont get in a why Jakks is better debate as its very obvious to anyone who doesnt take it personally and I speak from only a collectors perspective as I buy both lines but you missed a whole level wrestlers and jumped right to third tier wrestlers and no announcers , managers or even a referee , no Jessie or Gorilla and if your lucky you might see a bap Brain and thats not only a shame its just plain sad how you or anyone can keep defending this swiss cheese mattel legend lineup 5 years in . If reality cant sink in by now with the mattel legend lineup or lack of one I really cant add anymore to this subject if people cant see the basic truth of the matter as collectors thats very disappointing .
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Post by Mr Ezekiel Jackson If Ya Nasty on May 21, 2015 20:14:53 GMT -5
My life isn't going to feel incomplete because Mattel probably won't make folks like Johnny Rod, Brooklyn Brawler, or Ivan Putski. I wont get in a why Jakks is better debate as its very obvious to anyone who doesnt take it personally and I speak from only a collectors perspective as I buy both lines but you missed a whole level wrestlers and jumped right to third tier wrestlers and no announcers , managers or even a referee , no Jessie or Gorilla and if your lucky you might see a bap Brain and thats not only a shame its just plain sad how you or anyone can keep defending this swiss cheese mattel legend lineup 5 years in . If reality cant sink in by now with the mattel legend lineup or lack of one I really cant add anymore to this subject if people cant see the basic truth of the matter as collectors thats very disappointing . Considering that Mattel isn't doing a Jakks and just sticking a new head on the same bodies and calling it a day, I got no problem of waiting for certain wrestlers to get redone Mattel style. There are people I would love to see and will eventually get. And there are folks who I won't see at all. Honestly if the Jakks board wasn't so dead, you wouldn't be on the Mattel board to stir up ish here regularly.
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Post by saintpatrick33 on May 21, 2015 20:46:12 GMT -5
I wont get in a why Jakks is better debate as its very obvious to anyone who doesnt take it personally and I speak from only a collectors perspective as I buy both lines but you missed a whole level wrestlers and jumped right to third tier wrestlers and no announcers , managers or even a referee , no Jessie or Gorilla and if your lucky you might see a bap Brain and thats not only a shame its just plain sad how you or anyone can keep defending this swiss cheese mattel legend lineup 5 years in . If reality cant sink in by now with the mattel legend lineup or lack of one I really cant add anymore to this subject if people cant see the basic truth of the matter as collectors thats very disappointing . Considering that Mattel isn't doing a Jakks and just sticking a new head on the same bodies and calling it a day, I got no problem of waiting for certain wrestlers to get redone Mattel style. There are people I would love to see and will eventually get. And there are folks who I won't see at all. Honestly if the Jakks board wasn't so dead, you wouldn't be on the Mattel board to stir up ish here regularly. Im a collector and I purchase both lines as I can prove with photos if you like ? You or others call anyone who doesnt blindly slobber over a mattel a troll but what does that make you then as all creative discussion is lost as its always turned into Jakks vs mattel instead of the real issue the critiquing of a figure. I mean I or others give an opinion and were done but then were attacked for no reason or than its turned into if you dont like mattel why comment ? or I dont go to a hasbro thread and comment on them mentality but I clearly buy both lines so its kinda insulting that you tell me where I should post (see photos) and as you can see on my Jakks scale thread I rip them as needed also but honestly and with no favor so lose the fanboy stuff as its not about that and think or look into things before you blindly label people and you might be shocked just like Andre what wonderful debate we can have thanks.
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Post by Mr Ezekiel Jackson If Ya Nasty on May 21, 2015 21:05:10 GMT -5
Considering that Mattel isn't doing a Jakks and just sticking a new head on the same bodies and calling it a day, I got no problem of waiting for certain wrestlers to get redone Mattel style. There are people I would love to see and will eventually get. And there are folks who I won't see at all. Honestly if the Jakks board wasn't so dead, you wouldn't be on the Mattel board to stir up ish here regularly. Im a collector and I purchase both lines as I can prove with photos if you like ? You or others call anyone who doesnt blindly slobber over a mattel a troll but what does that make you then as all creative discussion is lost as its always turned into Jakks vs mattel instead of the real issue the critiquing of a figure. I mean I or others give an opinion and were done but then were attacked for no reason or than its turned into if you dont like mattel why comment ? or I dont go to a hasbro thread and comment on them mentality but I clearly buy both lines so its kinda insulting that you tell me where I should post (see photos) and as you can see on my Jakks scale thread I rip them as needed also but honestly and with no favor so lose the fanboy stuff as its not about that and think or look into things before you blindly label people and you might be shocked just like Andre what wonderful debate we can have thanks. I do enjoy your posed Jakks pics in the Jakks section but rarely do you come here and say Mattel did something decent. It's "Jakks is better than Mattel because.."and post pics from your collection. It's your right to post where you want and what you want but be prepared for folks to rebuttal your statements.
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Post by Hulk Who? on May 21, 2015 21:15:28 GMT -5
First dont take things personally as its not opinion its fact and keep twisting it anyway you want and always try and make it Jakks vs mattel if that sugar coats the disappointment for you . I have no horse in this race other then the plain truth and the truth is you will never see 1/4 of The Jakks CS lineup even if Mattel had the contract for 100 years . Not opinion just the fact so dont be defensive and accept it for what it is and youll be happier as these hope and pray lists are pretty unrealistic as it wont ever happen because of $$$ There is no truth or fact, only interpretations of varying degrees of quality. Truth or fact is the idea that reality and your words for it are one in the same, and that can never be obviously. We keep trying, but we'll never get reality and our words for it to coincide, they will forever be different.
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Post by saintpatrick33 on May 21, 2015 21:38:41 GMT -5
Im a collector and I purchase both lines as I can prove with photos if you like ? You or others call anyone who doesnt blindly slobber over a mattel a troll but what does that make you then as all creative discussion is lost as its always turned into Jakks vs mattel instead of the real issue the critiquing of a figure. I mean I or others give an opinion and were done but then were attacked for no reason or than its turned into if you dont like mattel why comment ? or I dont go to a hasbro thread and comment on them mentality but I clearly buy both lines so its kinda insulting that you tell me where I should post (see photos) and as you can see on my Jakks scale thread I rip them as needed also but honestly and with no favor so lose the fanboy stuff as its not about that and think or look into things before you blindly label people and you might be shocked just like Andre what wonderful debate we can have thanks. I do enjoy your posed Jakks pics in the Jakks section but rarely do you come here and say Mattel did something decent. It's "Jakks is better than Mattel because.."and post pics from your collection. It's your right to post where you want and what you want but be prepared for folks to rebuttal your statements. Fair enough and thanks for not taking things personal like most as its just a opinion so it might have to do with the maturity of this board and I post photos to prove point and to try and avoid childish behavior and my photos also prove over and over how I feel about both lines so read into it any way you want as photos dont lie . Im not here to make friends or to do the fake PC lets agree to disagree stuff the kids lap up today as Im just critiquing a figure so thanks again for not making it a Jakks vs mattel thing as its not even debatable . I also think your statement if I come to mattel thread and dont fawn over everything be prepared to be attack mentality is wrong in so many ways as this lessens this great site and truthful debate . You do know how silly this sounds right ? I mean I can then say Im gonna get guys who dislike mattel to post here also but as you can tell I dont work like that and I still cant understand the defensiveness over a toy action figure ? . I just say what I feel in the most respectful and sometimes fun way and I think maybe your on to something so maybe I will just post my opinions in photo form to avoid debate as I have some great Ideas as I just got a Jakks Mr T Im working on .
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 21:54:31 GMT -5
The "sports entertainment" business runs rampant with sin, we would have a very thin roster of memorabilia if we chose to ostracize every performer because or their past alleged histories. This business is infested with the worst illegal and immoral behaviors including murder, suicide, accidental death, sexual assault, racism, bullying, exploitation, drug abuse, pay-cuts, drug trafficking, backstabbing, politicking, violence, bad role models, and it is one of the most grueling and unforgiving lines of work in the world where these athletes push their bodies beyond human standards. Alleged is one thing, tried and convicted is another. All about opinions though thank god I agree with you that we can thank the lord for still having our rights to an opinion in this country, I feel as though many of our fellow citizens have been wrongfully convicted of crimes and that on some rare occasions they have proven their innocence through appeal, that being said, I feel as though certain folks have had unfair accusations placed on them even though the door of innocence was still open. Conviction legally states that you are indeed guilty, but from a moral stand point, the system has it's flaws regarding actual innocence and guilt. That being said, I am not quick to "throw away the key" on every convicted felon, especially those who are in the entertainment industry, an industry notorious for bringing down the rich and famous unjustly.
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Post by SteveHulk on May 21, 2015 22:16:36 GMT -5
OK... apologies for the thread-hijack and to the other members - but I have to get this of my chest: First dont take things personally as its not opinion its fact and keep twisting it anyway you want and always try and make it Jakks vs mattel if that sugar coats the disappointment for you . I have no horse in this race other then the plain truth and the truth is you will never see 1/4 of The Jakks CS lineup even if Mattel had the contract for 100 years . Not opinion just the fact so dont be defensive and accept it for what it is and youll be happier as these hope and pray lists are pretty unrealistic as it wont ever happen because of $$$ Dude - FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME: no-one is saying the Mattel Legends line is as large or diverse as the Jakks one - but Mattel is catering for collectors of ALL eras, not just one... you don't seem to realise this. Most people don't just stick to the '80's... they like all eras. Jakks had an amazing CS line-up - but, like Mattel, also have huge omissions (Macho, Steamboat, Sting)... FACT. And just because Jakks made a lot more wrestlers, doesn't automatically mean the line is "better" than Mattel's... it's just personal preference - not fact, OPINION. Many people, especially on the Mattel forum, would probably prefer the quality of Mattel's Legends figures over the quantity of Jakks'. You or others call anyone who doesnt blindly slobber over a mattel a troll but what does that make you then The difference is - Mattel collectors don't childishly go into the Jakks forum, just to criticise their figures and say how much better Mattel are. You rarely (ever?) have anything positive to say about Mattel figures - while at the same time continually praising Jakks and posting large, unecessary photos of their figures. IN THE MATTEL FORUM. I mean, surely you must realise how irritating this is to a lot of Mattel collectors? If you think the Jakks figures are so great, you shouldn't really be bothered about how "bad" the Mattel ones are... it's as though you're trying to convince yourself. Im not here to make friends or to do the fake PC lets agree to disagree stuff the kids lap up today as Im just critiquing a figure so thanks again for not making it a Jakks vs mattel thing as its not even debatable . ...IN YOUR OPINION. That you constantly say it as a fact is exactly the problem people have with you, lol. Anyway, rant over... this should be a fun forum, but you always seem to be stirring things up... you're either incredibly naive - or know exactly what you're doing .
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Post by saintpatrick33 on May 22, 2015 1:45:21 GMT -5
Heres a funny thing I blocked the member above me a month ago as he is childish and thinks he is the police of the Mattel threads and speaks for everyone and if anyone might have an opinion different then his or if you dont play the agree to disagree game with him he then stalks you in every post even after you tell him its better we dont respond to each other as it always takes the thread off the tracks . In my two years here I think I responded to the member above a handful of times when he freaked out so many didnt like the Les Gold DM hogan head and I havent responded to him in a month or longer to try and keep the peace and the subject on topic as he feels the need to defend anything mattel blindly like hes on retainer . I havent read or responded to this guy in a month but Im sure Im being called a troll even though I bought and have many mattel parts and accessories in my collection as its impossible to mix both Jakks and Mattel figure lines do to the size of the Beefy Jakks and skinny mattels and everyone knows I dislike over articulation in all figures so when I do a review I never mention it . Sure I use humor and even photos to make a point and to possibly avoid arguments like this because it solves nothing so ask yourself this question why is the guy above me always posting after me ? and then having to go way out of his way by spending tons of time just to respond to me as hes blocked from responding to me directly ? Jeez not even my girlfriend gives me this much attention . So whos the actual troll ? So I post this challenge to all of you to start calling him on it or anyone else including me as it solves nothing but derailing threads as its just a opinion ! if you cant deal with it move on and if he really cared about the forums here he wouldnt keep doing this as it solves nothing ! So Why keep commenting on someone you dont agree with over and over and over . I proved many times before through photos I have no horse in this race and I could care less about whats Jakks or mattel or what others think as I just go with what I think looks best to me as my collection has parts from everything and I go with what looks best and scale when possible.
Im a troll but I have a long running thread on Jakks scale issues ? So Im still willing to be the bigger man again and still wont respond to him out of the good of the forums so how about him ? Do you think he can resist to stir the pot and just move on forever ? Do us proud buddy and lets put the forums first ! Oh and just use the ignore option on me , problem solved !
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Post by SteveHulk on May 22, 2015 4:02:49 GMT -5
^ The member above me can play the "bigger man"/holier than thou card all they like - but they know they've annoyed people and been called a troll on the Mattel board quite a few times now (not just by me). I'll try and ignore them though - I just really don't know what they hope to achieve with the childish Mattel comments... all it does is annoy a lot of other members and Mattel collectors (...as just proven, lol).
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2015 22:45:45 GMT -5
Since its all aboot $$$ and Ts fees I highly doubt the swiss cheese legend lineup will see any love soon , but its nice to dream ! and thank the heavens for Jakks CS ! the gift that keeps on giving ! I pity the fool ...troll-tastic! And if Mattel is the "swiss cheese" legend lineup, then Jakks must be the Black Hole legend lineup... how can you possibly have a WWE/F Legends lineup without Macho Man and Steamboat...? TROLL TASTIC to the most. Cosigned. Pity the fool D'z NUTZ. Mattel is doing a great job, stop hating, trolling, and being a grump. Accept Mattels WWE contract, and take it in slow. FOH!!
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Post by hbchris on May 23, 2015 15:51:56 GMT -5
Whelp, this thread is totally off the rails.
Hey, let's talk about Mr. T!
I would seriously buy at least 3 Mr. T figures if Mattel made one, but I can't believe it'll ever happen. He doesn't have a legends contract, obviously, and he was really reluctant to go into the HOF to begin with - I recall him saying he'd never allow himself to go in because Pete Rose got in before he did! I think that reluctance is why his entire speech was about his momma instead of about his experience with WWF. My point being, I suspect Mr. T would really need to be convinced and would probably ask for more money than WWE or Mattel would be willing to spend. But if it happened, my life would be complete.
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