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Post by Triple S on Sept 15, 2015 20:19:10 GMT -5
Vanessa DID just save Steve tonight, though... time will tell.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 15, 2015 20:35:39 GMT -5
Vanessa DID just save Steve tonight, though... time will tell. It doesn't matter to him he will still have JMac vote to evict her. Damn I wish Joker's let you see more stuff but here is a little version of his rant to himself before the feeds went out last: 12:56 AM Earlier Steve backyard by himself (contd part 2) "I feel like that round 2 is going to be much more...if I can beat Liz. If I can't beat Liz would you be willing....yes.......Jmac won a sing,e physical comp all season. ....I'm so happy I won this endurance comp I'm just praying Jmac wins.....we did it. We ing did it. Oh my god. ........rock stars baby. Liz get to steppin! I have had a final 2 with Jmac since the beginning of this game. I have to stay loyal this is my decision it's entirely personal. Entirely strategic not personal Jmac we are rock stars I have to honor that commitment. Which means Liz I'm sorry I have to vote to evict you. You know I love you. I'm sorry. Ready for this Johnny? Final ing two. Final ing two, brother. I think I could by keepin Liz out of part three it would be nice to say that Jmac was never hoh. If I can outlast Liz will you be willing to throw part one to me. If it's down to me and you if Liz fell......I think I just won this game Jmac can't beat me. Don't get cocky confident ok not cocky Jmac still might not take me anything can happen. But I think I may have just won." He goes inside. It's very hard to hear his mumbling. ----------------------So yeah he already plans to get out Vanessa this week. The only way she survives is if she wins Veto or Liz wins it and does not evict her as the sole vote this week. Steve is only talking about scenarios where it is JMac, Liz, and himself in the final 3 because he is getting a little cocky thinking Vanessa is out 100% but she still has 1 for sure out and 1 slightly decent out. Even if Vanessa wins Veto and stupidly evicts Liz if she doesn't win the final HOH the same thing is going to happen Steve will likely win it and do the same speech to Vanessa.
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Post by bad guy™ on Sept 15, 2015 20:38:18 GMT -5
Austin out. Yes.
Liz didn't win HoH. Yes!
Johnny Mac has a chance to win this game so I get to keep my streak of picking the winner night one alive. YES!
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Post by King Richius on Sept 15, 2015 20:48:15 GMT -5
Grrr...I'm mad and sad to see Austin leave even though it was probably the best move for everyone not named Liz. I just wish Vanessa would stop with the damn crying! Own your game!
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Post by King Silva on Sept 15, 2015 20:49:34 GMT -5
Austin out. Yes. Liz didn't win HoH. Yes! Johnny Mac has a chance to win this game so I get to keep my streak of picking the winner night one alive. YES! There is very little chance for JMac to beat Steve in the finals imo. Especially if JMac never wins HOH which is very likely since he only has one more shot to do so.. 4 Vetos are nice but I'd much rather take 3 HOHs and 2 Vetos. Of course JMac would win a 5th Veto in a single season (which iirc would be a record) and the final HOH taking him to 5 Vetos and 1 HOH but then again Steve could win the final Veto and final HOH taking him to 4 HOHs and 3 Vetos. Hell they could split those comps or Liz/Vanessa could win one or both of them meaning they both could be +1 or stay the way they currently are in terms of comp wins.
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Post by slappy on Sept 15, 2015 21:41:19 GMT -5
Why do Brendon and Rachel always have to show up and ruin everything?
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Post by bad guy™ on Sept 15, 2015 21:55:05 GMT -5
Why do Brendon and Rachel always have to show up and ruin everything? Gonna assume their announcement is a kid so, can't stand them but can't really fault them for that. Feel good thing.
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Post by slappy on Sept 15, 2015 21:59:24 GMT -5
Why do Brendon and Rachel always have to show up and ruin everything? Gonna assume their announcement is a kid so, can't stand them but can't really fault them for that. Feel good thing. I assumed so too but I swear they can't go one season without having her on. It's like they live to torment me with her appearances.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 15, 2015 22:06:56 GMT -5
Why do Brendon and Rachel always have to show up and ruin everything? Do not hate Slappy! I love me some Brenchel so I'm glad they will be back to likely announce they are expecting a baby.
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Post by bad guy™ on Sept 16, 2015 1:42:10 GMT -5
Nom/Veto Spoilers: Steve nominated Johnny Mac and Vanessa. Vanessa won veto. She's saving herself and while saying she is undecided...she's clearly decided that she's evicting Johnny Mac. Again.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 16, 2015 1:45:53 GMT -5
Nom/Veto Spoilers: Steve nominated Johnny Mac and Vanessa. Vanessa won veto. She's saving herself and while saying she is undecided...she's clearly decided that she's evicting Johnny Mac. Again. YES!!!!! Idk why but I thought the feeds were off til tomorrow? I am just so damn happy that Steve, Vanessa, and Liz are very likely going to be in the final 3. JMac was never my favorite and I really don't see his appeal.. Vanessa needs to take Steve out if she wants to win this game for sure. I can see Liz getting some votes against Vanessa but if it is Vanessa/Steve that would be a really close call. I kinda want to see that happen but I want Vanessa to win so I'm conflicted.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 16, 2015 2:56:34 GMT -5
Post final POV spoilers. My commentary is bold in the brackets: 12:15 AM Steve has a cryfest in the HOH room because he is mad at himself for throwing the veto. He believes he made a 500K mistake.Vanessa apparently convinced him to throw it and even tho he knew he shouldn't, he did. If he won he could have saved Johnny, go to F3 with John & Liz and F2 with John so he wins the game. He knows he cannot win against Vanessa. 12:25 AM Steve: "I need to take Vanessa because I honestly think I have a better shot against her than against Liz." 12:27 AM Steve is saying he is sorry to his family for letting them down. Says if he had only won the veto, but that he will never....win against her. That would have been his big move sending Vanessa out. He keeps repeating if only he had won. Says he would have won the game but he cannot win against Vanessa she is too good. ***[Why the would he intentionally lose that competition? I mean if his goal was to really take out Vanessa then why would he not try his hardest to win it? Sure he could have legit lost to her but there is no way he should have not given his all to win that final POV (as everyone should have because it is a GUARANTEED spot in the final 3)!!!]***12:29 AM Steve goes downstairs and asks Liz for a hug. Says he was upstairs in HOH crying. 12:36 AM Vanessa is back & asking what is up. She tells Steve he has to go to bed (she doesn't want him talking to anyone.) 12:38 AM Vanessa says he can sleep down there. She goes in kitchen & Johnny does to, she explains he is having a mini panick attack. ***[LMFAO at Vanessa acting like Steve's mom telling him he needs to stop and go to bed as well as give her permission for him to sleep in Liz's room. Steve really is the Boy and he desperately needs his mommy..]***12:39 AM Steve and Liz say "I love you" to each other. He came down to sleep in the bed next to Liz. Liz tucks him in. ***[Seriously Steve needs to man up..]***
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Post by King Richius on Sept 16, 2015 9:12:55 GMT -5
Nom/Veto Spoilers: Steve nominated Johnny Mac and Vanessa. Vanessa won veto. She's saving herself and while saying she is undecided...she's clearly decided that she's evicting Johnny Mac. Again. Well damn. If Johnny Mac goes home tonight then I really think the final HOH competition will go a long way towards deciding who ends up being the overall winner. This final three is fairly close imho; much closer than previous years.
Vanessa has had a hand in so many evictions and done well enough in competitions that if she wins the last HOH and OWNS HER GAME in the final interviews then she should win. Just stop with the damn crying! She needs to stand firm and admit that her strategy all summer was to manipulate people into doing what was best for her game and that she would evict anybody she perceived as a threat regardless of previous alliances or deals.
Steve has really come on strong the past month or so and one more big victory could propel him to the top. His case is obvious: "I stayed under your radar until it was too late. By the time you realized I was a threat, you couldn't get rid of me. I won HOHs and PoVs when I needed to and here I am still standing at the end."
Liz HAS to win because she has been floundering a bit the past few weeks and her case is the weakest right now. Too much of her game was based on her alliance with her sister, Austin, and Vanessa. A case could be made that she was a bit of a coattail rider and a "what have you done for me lately?" attitude with regards to her competition victories could hurt her. Also, she has two guaranteed votes in Julia and Austin. That makes me think she won't even make it to the final two if she doesn't win the HOH.
Of course, so much depends on how the jury will react to the final two. Will they vote based on game play or will they hold grudges? Sour grapes has ruined many a reality show final vote.
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Post by facemeat on Sept 16, 2015 19:51:49 GMT -5
Damn, now there's no one left for me to root for. John was the last one in the house that I genuinely liked. Vanessa has worn on my last nerve, so I'm just hoping she doesn't win at this point (although I have to admit she's played the best game this season).
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Post by bad guy™ on Sept 16, 2015 21:35:22 GMT -5
Poopy. First time in almost a decade I've not gotten the winner right.
I gotta put my audition video together at some point and decide if I wanna take a road trip to Philly or NYC in February. I'll be graduated so I can at least give it a shot.
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Post by slappy on Sept 16, 2015 22:57:13 GMT -5
Guess I'm rooting for Steve to win because if I want Liz or Vanessa to win.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 17, 2015 1:58:58 GMT -5
Vanessa FTW! I guess all the time she spent 'Jedi mind drilling' the dates worked out! sneaky Steve for trying to take her out.. I hope she wins the final HOH and takes HIS ass out!
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Post by bad guy™ on Sept 17, 2015 2:10:19 GMT -5
The producers want her to win SO BAD it's ridiculous. I'm positive she's in the finals because I'm sure if she doesn't win endurance challenge 2 will be something memory based and she'll conveniently know exactly who would possibly say what in part 3 for the T/F finale.
Just my take.
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Post by King Silva on Sept 17, 2015 5:14:02 GMT -5
Final HOH Part 1 spoilers! VANESSA WINS PART 1 Of THE 3 PART HOH!
It was an endurance competition where they get slammed into a wall. They were sitting on caramel apples and getting slammed into mats that looked like people's mouths. Of course Steve was out first..
Liz fell after she realized Vanessa was NOT coming down.
Part 2 of 3 – Liz and Steve will compete against each other Part 3 of 3 – The winner of part 2 competes against Vanessa
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Post by King Silva on Sept 19, 2015 1:33:09 GMT -5
Final HOH Part 2 spoilers!As you all probably know Vanessa won the endurance part 1. So that meant the second comp was played between Liz and Steve. As usual it was a mental competition with some physical component to it. Steve ended up winning so he will meet Vanessa in the final part which is almost always answering how Jury members would answer various questions to decide who the final HOH is. Vanessa and Steve both claim that they are taking each other but I have a feeling neither is telling the truth. Next Wednesday's finale should be really interesting. That entire day will be really sweet since Survivor comes back as well!
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