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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jun 22, 2015 15:06:20 GMT -5
Ziggler should go, wwe has dropped the ball with him too often They should have given him a major push after survivor series... They could have done it this way He gets fired, Sting/Cena win his job back, he gets in the rumble, has to fight to keep his spot, he does, but the authority makes it entrant #1 He winds up winning the rumble (fending off kane and big show as he does it) In the coming weeks the authority makes him face a plethora of heels to keep his main event status, through it all he does, At fastlane you have him face triple h, if he loses then he is out and Rollins is in Sting distracts Trips (better than the call out we got at fastlane) and Dolph wins, he goes on to main event WM31 There he can beat lesnar, and go on to have the run DBry should have had, or... You still let Rollins cash in and win...now you have Ziggler chase him, imagine the matches, and you have built a big face too Ziggler main eventing WM 31 and beating Lesnar?.... L O ing L. You're obviously as deluded as the man himself.
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Jun 22, 2015 15:09:22 GMT -5
Ziggler should go, wwe has dropped the ball with him too often They should have given him a major push after survivor series... They could have done it this way He gets fired, Sting/Cena win his job back, he gets in the rumble, has to fight to keep his spot, he does, but the authority makes it entrant #1 He winds up winning the rumble (fending off kane and big show as he does it) In the coming weeks the authority makes him face a plethora of heels to keep his main event status, through it all he does, At fastlane you have him face triple h, if he loses then he is out and Rollins is in Sting distracts Trips (better than the call out we got at fastlane) and Dolph wins, he goes on to main event WM31 There he can beat lesnar, and go on to have the run DBry should have had, or... You still let Rollins cash in and win...now you have Ziggler chase him, imagine the matches, and you have built a big face too Ziggler main eventing WM 31 and beating Lesnar?.... LO ingL. Would have been awesome Its as believeable as Bryan, and coming of Survivor Series he was more over than Reigns Ziggler has talent...he has been booked very poorly And he does not have to beat Lesnar, you can have the EXACT same finish as we had, but with Ziggler instead of Reigns But it didnt happen So i hope he goes to njpw and joins bullet club...he'd fit right in with the young bucks
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Post by Planktung on Jun 22, 2015 15:10:52 GMT -5
Ziggler should go, wwe has dropped the ball with him too often They should have given him a major push after survivor series... They could have done it this way He gets fired, Sting/Cena win his job back, he gets in the rumble, has to fight to keep his spot, he does, but the authority makes it entrant #1 He winds up winning the rumble (fending off kane and big show as he does it) In the coming weeks the authority makes him face a plethora of heels to keep his main event status, through it all he does, At fastlane you have him face triple h, if he loses then he is out and Rollins is in Sting distracts Trips (better than the call out we got at fastlane) and Dolph wins, he goes on to main event WM31 There he can beat lesnar, and go on to have the run DBry should have had, or... You still let Rollins cash in and win...now you have Ziggler chase him, imagine the matches, and you have built a big face too The problem with the scenario is that WWE never intended for Ziggler to be pushed heavily after Survivor Series, even though he should have been. He simply got the spot that he did in the Team Cena vs. Team Authority match because Roman Reigns, who was originally meant to be the sole survivor, was inactive. WWE just doesn't want Ziggler in the main event scene, regardless of how talented he is.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jun 22, 2015 16:52:03 GMT -5
They know there's people more talented than Ziggler already on the roster, and on the horizon down in NXT.
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Post by Rob on Jun 22, 2015 17:01:44 GMT -5
He is probably trying to CM Punk his way to the top. The thing is, Not everyone can be main eventers. He is a solidified upper midcarder who has dipped into the main event scene every now and then. He is in a great spot in the company and is likely making big bucks since he is now in his 10th year with the company. If he wants to quit and go win indy fed world titles, so be it, His loss.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jun 22, 2015 23:39:55 GMT -5
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Post by 5D's on Jun 23, 2015 8:45:22 GMT -5
Dolph's matches have been a constant for me since he was repackaged in 2008/2009 and I've supported him since then; losing him would leave a huge hole in the shows. I hope he decides to re-sign.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Jun 23, 2015 13:35:25 GMT -5
He is probably trying to CM Punk his way to the top. The thing is, Not everyone can be main eventers. He is a solidified upper midcarder who has dipped into the main event scene every now and then. He is in a great spot in the company and is likely making big bucks since he is now in his 10th year with the company. If he wants to quit and go win indy fed world titles, so be it, His loss. It sounds like that's what he's trying to do, and that's why he needs to get back to reality, because if he thinks Vince is going to entertain any ideas about him holding them to ransom, he's delusional as hell. Punk was able to throw down that kind of ultimatum, because Vince knew he had an elite talent and a merchandise mover in Punk, that he couldn't afford to lose. Ziggler's not in that category. Dolph's matches have been a constant for me since he was repackaged in 2008/2009 and I've supported him since then; losing him would leave a huge hole in the shows. I hope he decides to re-sign. Except whenever he's absent, the show doesn't suffer one bit and he's not missed at all.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 23, 2015 13:39:50 GMT -5
Ziggler should go, wwe has dropped the ball with him too often They should have given him a major push after survivor series... They could have done it this way He gets fired, Sting/Cena win his job back, he gets in the rumble, has to fight to keep his spot, he does, but the authority makes it entrant #1 He winds up winning the rumble (fending off kane and big show as he does it) In the coming weeks the authority makes him face a plethora of heels to keep his main event status, through it all he does, At fastlane you have him face triple h, if he loses then he is out and Rollins is in Sting distracts Trips (better than the call out we got at fastlane) and Dolph wins, he goes on to main event WM31 There he can beat lesnar, and go on to have the run DBry should have had, or... You still let Rollins cash in and win...now you have Ziggler chase him, imagine the matches, and you have built a big face too I'm sorry.....I really like Dolph Ziggler, but the idea that you could create any storyline where he is believable against BROCK LESNAR is unrealistic. People didn't even buy that Roman Reigns could touch Lesnar and they don't buy that Seth Rollins can touch Lesnar either. I would have put Ziggler in Orton's place. I think Seth Rollins vs. Dolph Ziggler at Wrestlemania would have been better than Orton vs. Rollins, and when Rollins went on to cash in, you THEN could have had Ziggler challenge Rollins for the WWE Title because he would have scored a win over the guy that went on to become Champion.
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Jun 23, 2015 14:03:56 GMT -5
Ziggler should go, wwe has dropped the ball with him too often They should have given him a major push after survivor series... They could have done it this way He gets fired, Sting/Cena win his job back, he gets in the rumble, has to fight to keep his spot, he does, but the authority makes it entrant #1 He winds up winning the rumble (fending off kane and big show as he does it) In the coming weeks the authority makes him face a plethora of heels to keep his main event status, through it all he does, At fastlane you have him face triple h, if he loses then he is out and Rollins is in Sting distracts Trips (better than the call out we got at fastlane) and Dolph wins, he goes on to main event WM31 There he can beat lesnar, and go on to have the run DBry should have had, or... You still let Rollins cash in and win...now you have Ziggler chase him, imagine the matches, and you have built a big face too I'm sorry.....I really like Dolph Ziggler, but the idea that you could create any storyline where he is believable against BROCK LESNAR is unrealistic. People didn't even buy that Roman Reigns could touch Lesnar and they don't buy that Seth Rollins can touch Lesnar either. I would have put Ziggler in Orton's place. I think Seth Rollins vs. Dolph Ziggler at Wrestlemania would have been better than Orton vs. Rollins, and when Rollins went on to cash in, you THEN could have had Ziggler challenge Rollins for the WWE Title because he would have scored a win over the guy that went on to become Champion. But yet people were clamoring for Bryan vs Lesnar. ..how is that more believeable?
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 23, 2015 14:05:41 GMT -5
I'm sorry.....I really like Dolph Ziggler, but the idea that you could create any storyline where he is believable against BROCK LESNAR is unrealistic. People didn't even buy that Roman Reigns could touch Lesnar and they don't buy that Seth Rollins can touch Lesnar either. I would have put Ziggler in Orton's place. I think Seth Rollins vs. Dolph Ziggler at Wrestlemania would have been better than Orton vs. Rollins, and when Rollins went on to cash in, you THEN could have had Ziggler challenge Rollins for the WWE Title because he would have scored a win over the guy that went on to become Champion. But yet people were clamoring for Bryan vs Lesnar. ..how is that more believeable? Because Daniel Bryan is small enough that it becomes like David vs. Goliath. It's like why Rey Mysterio would always beat The Big Show. If you are tiny, in pro wrestling in becomes part of the fictional storyline that you could slay the Giant.....but if you are just a medium sized man like Ziggler or Rollins, the fantasy aspect is not there....at least for me.
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Jun 23, 2015 14:07:17 GMT -5
Except whenever he's absent, the show doesn't suffer one bit and he's not missed at all. I disagree with your OPINION here, i do think he is missed But i think he should go to the indy scene, finally get the title shots/reigns he should have been given
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Jun 23, 2015 14:09:16 GMT -5
But yet people were clamoring for Bryan vs Lesnar. ..how is that more believeable? Because Daniel Bryan is small enough that it becomes like David vs. Goliath. It's like why Rey Mysterio would always beat The Big Show. If you are tiny, in pro wrestling in becomes part of the fictional storyline that you could slay the Giant.....but if you are just a medium sized man like Ziggler or Rollins, the fantasy aspect is not there....at least for me. Interesting Dolph is only 1 inch taller and 8 pounds heavier
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 23, 2015 14:18:21 GMT -5
Because Daniel Bryan is small enough that it becomes like David vs. Goliath. It's like why Rey Mysterio would always beat The Big Show. If you are tiny, in pro wrestling in becomes part of the fictional storyline that you could slay the Giant.....but if you are just a medium sized man like Ziggler or Rollins, the fantasy aspect is not there....at least for me. Interesting Dolph is only 1 inch taller and 8 pounds heavier Dolph Ziggler comes off as much bigger than Bryan on TV. He's way more muscular, he's got a much better look. Daniel Bryan just comes off as this tiny, hairy, pudgy guy who looks like a regular guy and he just fights with the heart of a warrior and everyone roots for the Underdog. Not to be whatever, but I feel like I'm probably in better shape than Daniel Bryan, so my instinct is to root for him because I feel like everyone is bigger and stronger than him. But for Dolph Ziggler.....he's got a physique that is better than most, he's got the slicked back hair, they always have him on TV with a great looking woman....you don't necessarily feel like he's an underdog except when it comes to backstage politics apparently because the guy can never get a real push. lol So, like I said, at least for me, I'll buy David vs. Goliath more than I will buy a medium sized guy vs. a beast. I's almost crazy to say, but Dolph Ziggler and Seth Rollins almost need to be SMALLER for me to think they've got a chance against Lesnar. Remember, Brock Lesnar almost killed Undertaker, he demolished John Cena....a mid-card guy just isn't going to roll in there and knock off somebody with those accomplishments. It would have to be the "Ultimate Underdog story", and Daniel Bryan had captured the hearts of the entire WWE Universe. Daniel Bryan could have got pounded the entire match, just thrown around like a sack of sh*t. Lesnar makes a mistake and Bryan starts throwing kicks, and he could have hit him with like 3 of those flying knee's and got Lesnar down for the pin. It would have been perfect. But somebody like Rollins and Ziggler are not going to go in and just "out wrestle" or "out power" Brock Lesnar.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Jun 24, 2015 21:44:56 GMT -5
Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter
So Dolph is at least thinking about life past the WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2015 23:07:41 GMT -5
I don't want anyone to walk away from their career job. However in my opinion, Ziggler looks out of place in WWE programming. I personally don't like his character, so I wouldn't be to upset to see him go, but I would like him to go on his own and not be released.
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Post by threehgame on Jun 26, 2015 8:59:43 GMT -5
But yet people were clamoring for Bryan vs Lesnar. ..how is that more believeable? Bryan beat 3 elite champions in one night while Ziggler beat a B-squad of guys thrown together and he wasn't even meant for that spot. Size doesn't matter, its about pedigree and ability.
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Post by The Champ is Here! on Jun 26, 2015 9:50:49 GMT -5
But yet people were clamoring for Bryan vs Lesnar. ..how is that more believeable? Bryan beat 3 elite champions in one night while Ziggler beat a B-squad of guys thrown together and he wasn't even meant for that spot. Size doesn't matter, its about pedigree and ability. Thats a booking issue though, you could have done the same thing with Ziggler
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Post by threehgame on Jun 26, 2015 10:32:15 GMT -5
Bryan beat 3 elite champions in one night while Ziggler beat a B-squad of guys thrown together and he wasn't even meant for that spot. Size doesn't matter, its about pedigree and ability. Thats a booking issue though, you could have done the same thing with Ziggler They could have but only if Ziggler lost the show off character to become an underdog/workaholic type. Take away the flashy persona and the overselling bumps and Ziggler is back to being in the spirit squad.
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Post by Cody Rhodes Diva on Jun 26, 2015 12:05:52 GMT -5
This just in... Source: PW InsiderFor those who have asked about the future of Dolph Ziggler and WWE, PWInsider.com has confirmed that Ziggler and WWE came to terms on a new contract several weeks ago. I am told it's a multi-year deal.
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