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Post by Word™ on Jun 23, 2015 18:01:58 GMT -5
There's a theory going around that Kitsch's character could be hiding and battling with his homosexuality.. To me that would be an extremely interesting development.
I'm also starting to think "we get the world we deserve" isn't a statement in general. But a statement about the individuals of this show and that every person makes their own choices. You can do right or you can do wrong, but at the end of the day you'll get the world you deserve.
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Post by Word™ on Jun 29, 2015 1:36:46 GMT -5
Holy sh*t!
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 29, 2015 11:00:37 GMT -5
What the hell happened? That was totally unexpected... like WTF just happened unexpected? I mean surely there is more than meets the eye with that whole deal right? Bean bag rounds? Maybe clueing us in that the killer is a cop and Velcoro isn't apart of the plan?
Vince Vaughn was pretty amazing last night. Good episode for him and I like characters who are backed into a corner and act on that motivation.
I'm on the fence with TK. On one hand I can see where he's this closet gay guy, trying to deal with feelings of inferiority in a "man's world" in which he operates, but then that could be real hatred as well, which would be refreshing and avoid the stereotype theory that every guy that hates gay people is gay himself. I think the line from his mom about all the girls being nice to him and then him watching the guy getting out of the car from his hotel room were both very deliberate though. I'm half expecting TK's character to have anal sex with McAdams' character in an episode now, which will likely further complicate the situation. I don't think he's gay, per se. I think he was likely molested as a child, and has PTSD.
McAdams' background is super interesting to me. They're dropping crumbs but I want more.
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Post by jakksking1 on Jun 29, 2015 21:51:11 GMT -5
I'm assuming he is alive, there are many Colin Farrell scenes in the trailer for this season that haven't been shown yet.
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Post by Mr. McCluer on Jun 29, 2015 22:02:07 GMT -5
^^^ My thoughts exactly Lads.
Ferrell survives. I saw no blood.
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Post by King Silva on Jun 30, 2015 7:53:04 GMT -5
Wow at the ending (even if I knew sh*t was going down since stupid EW had an article about 'THAT scene in TD' which is a dead giveaway for a death or something).....
I find it hard to believe they killed one of the main leads in the second episode but we shall see..
As for Kitsch's character being gay they really are pointing towards that so again we'll see.
Next week's episode should be super interesting.
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I should mention that even if it is a minor role I'm glad Abigail Spencer has a role in this. She is awesome in Rectify!
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Post by jakksking1 on Jun 30, 2015 10:26:43 GMT -5
After Sunday's episode I don't think TK's character is closeted, seemed more like he had something going on with Mommy. This isn't out of the realm of possibilities since HBO really loves going to the incest well in their series.
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Post by Mr. McCluer on Jul 5, 2015 23:19:42 GMT -5
Uhm... Shet.
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Post by Word™ on Jul 6, 2015 1:34:28 GMT -5
Vince Vaughn is losing his sh*t.. And it's awesome.
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Post by King Silva on Jul 6, 2015 2:31:35 GMT -5
After Sunday's episode I don't think TK's character is closeted, seemed more like he had something going on with Mommy. This isn't out of the realm of possibilities since HBO really loves going to the incest well in their series. After the third episode is seems like he had a relationship with his former army friend. I also think there is a chance he did something with those gay hos in the club off camera.. Overall last night's episode was solid but still not spectacular..
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 6, 2015 8:39:34 GMT -5
After Sunday's episode I don't think TK's character is closeted, seemed more like he had something going on with Mommy. This isn't out of the realm of possibilities since HBO really loves going to the incest well in their series. After the third episode is seems like he had a relationship with his former army friend. I also think there is a chance he did something with those gay hos in the club off camera.. Overall last night's episode was solid but still not spectacular.. Yep, speculation over with that situation, really. I think we're going to see more of that clearly develop next episode too based on the previews. I'm really enjoying watching Vince Vaughn's character come unglued. It's a slow burn too. He's trying to maintain control. The trouble I'm having so far, in regards to the murder(s), is that I don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for yet. We really don't have any elaborate details on the case. The story is about the 3 cops and the 1 crime boss and the murders seem insignificant to this point. I'm sure that will change but so far, we've only seen department pissing contests. The killer not killing Velcoro means something, but what... The Mayor is a scumbag but what's he really hiding and is he a killer or a potential target for the killer. Seemingly the latter if I were to guess. There has to be a crosspoint where these characters all tie together. In the meantime, I'd like to get more on the meaning of why the killer did what he did to the dead bodies. That information might go along with finding out more about the sex parties though, which the detectives have to continue to unearth.
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Post by jakksking1 on Jul 6, 2015 10:51:39 GMT -5
After the third episode is seems like he had a relationship with his former army friend. I also think there is a chance he did something with those gay hos in the club off camera.. Overall last night's episode was solid but still not spectacular.. Yep, speculation over with that situation, really. I think we're going to see more of that clearly develop next episode too based on the previews. I'm really enjoying watching Vince Vaughn's character come unglued. It's a slow burn too. He's trying to maintain control. The trouble I'm having so far, in regards to the murder(s), is that I don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for yet. We really don't have any elaborate details on the case. The story is about the 3 cops and the 1 crime boss and the murders seem insignificant to this point. I'm sure that will change but so far, we've only seen department pissing contests. The killer not killing Velcoro means something, but what... The Mayor is a scumbag but what's he really hiding and is he a killer or a potential target for the killer. Seemingly the latter if I were to guess. There has to be a crosspoint where these characters all tie together. In the meantime, I'd like to get more on the meaning of why the killer did what he did to the dead bodies. That information might go along with finding out more about the sex parties though, which the detectives have to continue to unearth. My money is on the mayors son as the killer. Looks like he is putting together weird sex parties with the escorts from Vince's club. Just my guess.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 6, 2015 12:07:22 GMT -5
Yep, speculation over with that situation, really. I think we're going to see more of that clearly develop next episode too based on the previews. I'm really enjoying watching Vince Vaughn's character come unglued. It's a slow burn too. He's trying to maintain control. The trouble I'm having so far, in regards to the murder(s), is that I don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for yet. We really don't have any elaborate details on the case. The story is about the 3 cops and the 1 crime boss and the murders seem insignificant to this point. I'm sure that will change but so far, we've only seen department pissing contests. The killer not killing Velcoro means something, but what... The Mayor is a scumbag but what's he really hiding and is he a killer or a potential target for the killer. Seemingly the latter if I were to guess. There has to be a crosspoint where these characters all tie together. In the meantime, I'd like to get more on the meaning of why the killer did what he did to the dead bodies. That information might go along with finding out more about the sex parties though, which the detectives have to continue to unearth. My money is on the mayors son as the killer. Looks like he is putting together weird sex parties with the escorts from Vince's club. Just my guess. Could be. He has the build for it. His dad being the Mayor would seemingly allow him access to police firearms and why he wouldn't kill Velcoro. He obviously ties in with the development plans via his father and would have access to the movie set people through his parties. I think there stands a chance we are looking at tandem killers. We are led to believe it can't be any of the 3 cops. TK stumbled onto the body and didn't know Caspar was dead until he was right next to him. McAdams is the boyscout and she had the chase last night. And, lastly, Velcoro got shot. I don't think that rules any of the 3 out, but we've been led to believe it can't or shouldn't be any of the cops, even though we assume the killer is a cop, has police training, or has access to police equipment. Not sure what the deal is with the fat copy following TK around either. I'm not expecting a lawn mower man type of scene this season. We saw that last time around and so now we know to look for it. I think that was what we got with the photographer at the movie set (Billy from Little Big League haha). That to me was a red herring scenario that played on season 1's reveal. So I'm looking for something a little more right in front of us, versus a chance encounter. We still don't know what, specifically, is motivating the killer(ers) though. That means it could be anyone right now. It could be McAdams' father, it could be the Mayor's son, it could be the movie set photographer or the director, any of them would likely make sense right now. I'm guessing that Vince Vaughn's whole deal is at the heart of the story but why does that mix with a sex cult...
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Post by jakksking1 on Jul 6, 2015 12:13:34 GMT -5
My money is on the mayors son as the killer. Looks like he is putting together weird sex parties with the escorts from Vince's club. Just my guess. Could be. He has the build for it. His dad being the Mayor would seemingly allow him access to police firearms and why he wouldn't kill Velcoro. He obviously ties in with the development plans via his father and would have access to the movie set people through his parties. I think there stands a chance we are looking at tandem killers. We are led to believe it can't be any of the 3 cops. TK stumbled onto the body and didn't know Caspar was dead until he was right next to him. McAdams is the boyscout and she had the chase last night. And, lastly, Velcoro got shot. I don't think that rules any of the 3 out, but we've been led to believe it can't or shouldn't be any of the cops, even though we assume the killer is a cop, has police training, or has access to police equipment. Not sure what the deal is with the fat copy following TK around either. I'm not expecting a lawn mower man type of scene this season. We saw that last time around and so now we know to look for it. I think that was what we got with the photographer at the movie set (Billy from Little Big League haha). That to me was a red herring scenario that played on season 1's reveal. So I'm looking for something a little more right in front of us, versus a chance encounter. We still don't know what, specifically, is motivating the killer(ers) though. That means it could be anyone right now. It could be McAdams' father, it could be the Mayor's son, it could be the movie set photographer or the director, any of them would likely make sense right now. I'm guessing that the Vince Vaughn's whole deal is at the heart of the story but why does that mix with a sex cult... Definitely thinking tandem as well, with 1 being a cop or state police. Like Velcoro said "riot round, like cops use". Think that was a big hint. Cops don't kill other cops, just a warning shot towards him. Another interesting idea is the city manager's psychologist. Someone pointed out the psych knew all his sexual preferences, and had a raven painting in his office. Maybe another red herring As for the sex cult, only thing i can think of is pervert city manager blabbers his mouth to his hookers/pimps/sex friends that some idiot gave him $5mil cash. Or maybe he blabbers to his shrink. And instead of it being this big corruption plot, its as simple as a dude getting offed to steal a large sum of cash from him.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 6, 2015 12:25:33 GMT -5
Could be. He has the build for it. His dad being the Mayor would seemingly allow him access to police firearms and why he wouldn't kill Velcoro. He obviously ties in with the development plans via his father and would have access to the movie set people through his parties. I think there stands a chance we are looking at tandem killers. We are led to believe it can't be any of the 3 cops. TK stumbled onto the body and didn't know Caspar was dead until he was right next to him. McAdams is the boyscout and she had the chase last night. And, lastly, Velcoro got shot. I don't think that rules any of the 3 out, but we've been led to believe it can't or shouldn't be any of the cops, even though we assume the killer is a cop, has police training, or has access to police equipment. Not sure what the deal is with the fat copy following TK around either. I'm not expecting a lawn mower man type of scene this season. We saw that last time around and so now we know to look for it. I think that was what we got with the photographer at the movie set (Billy from Little Big League haha). That to me was a red herring scenario that played on season 1's reveal. So I'm looking for something a little more right in front of us, versus a chance encounter. We still don't know what, specifically, is motivating the killer(ers) though. That means it could be anyone right now. It could be McAdams' father, it could be the Mayor's son, it could be the movie set photographer or the director, any of them would likely make sense right now. I'm guessing that the Vince Vaughn's whole deal is at the heart of the story but why does that mix with a sex cult... Definitely thinking tandem as well, with 1 being a cop or state police. Like Velcoro said "riot round, like cops use". Think that was a big hint. Cops don't kill other cops, just a warning shot towards him. Another interesting idea is the city manager's psychologist. Someone pointed out the psych knew all his sexual preferences, and had a raven painting in his office. Maybe another red herring As for the sex cult, only thing i can think of is pervert city manager blabbers his mouth to his hookers/pimps/sex friends that some idiot gave him $5mil cash. Or maybe he blabbers to his shrink. And instead of it being this big corruption plot, its as simple as a dude getting offed to steal a large sum of cash from him. Totally forgot about that guy. A little Hannibal Lecter nod of sorts. Could be. Although I would think he's motivated by more than money. I'm also struggling with Vince Vaughn's wife. She seems vindictive. I'm not sure she's a murderer, but a situation is brewing with those two characters, and I'd like some flashback on them before it happens. I didn't mention this before, but I also really loved the dream sequence. Maybe a foreshadowing of events to come. I think that was more David Lynch influence in the season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 1:03:52 GMT -5
Eh... This season is just barely intriguing enough for me to stick with it to see what happens.
But it's an absolute disgrace to season 1. Don't get me wrong... I knew they could never recapture what season 1 had. I actually came in pretty open-minded with low expectations. But this season is just bad. I almost feel like they should have just had one single season as a miniseries.
I'll stick it out though. I hope it somehow turns around.
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Post by Himmy! on Jul 10, 2015 6:54:48 GMT -5
I'm really struggling now. Next episode is make or break for me.
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Post by Word™ on Jul 10, 2015 7:56:11 GMT -5
Anyone that was expecting this season to be anywhere near the quality of season 1, which is one of the best seasons of television ever made, are setting themselves up for a letdown.
I'm interested in watching Vince Vaughn go off the rails.
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Post by k5 on Jul 11, 2015 10:15:55 GMT -5
it's solid so far, as other's said it doesn't hold up to season 1 but i personally love colin farrell's character. very happy to see he survived episode 2 but i felt they pulled an unneeded mulligan there.
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Post by jakksking1 on Jul 12, 2015 21:31:49 GMT -5
That was a hell of a death count.
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