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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Jul 7, 2015 14:54:03 GMT -5
Another thread that was sparked thanks to the Network, but have been watching the Smackdown's from August 99, at this point I'm at the SD after SS and all I can say is wow.
I mean he was given the title out of the blue, it kinda made sense with the whole dying Dad storyline, but he was clearly a transitional Champion till the last few weeks of 99 when he feuded with DX and eventually lost. He was midcarding for nearly the entire 2 months he had the gold.
What was the deal with this? I've always figured it was down to a clause in his contract (I remember reading that before WM15 was 100% set that WM2000's Main Event was set as Austin vs Big Show as a sort of homage to Hogan/Andre), but was it something different? Was it down to maybe just unpredictable plots, or even just a case of getting the title out of the Triple H/McMahon feud so you could still have feuds for the title and a main feud.
I do love this period though, wish we had the Raw's available but thats a different discussion for a different thread, but seeing random guys who had been midcarding all year getting pushes was amazing; you had guys like Test, Val Venis, Al Snow and Big Boss Man Main Eventing show's and for me atleast watching now, its fresh and fun (something we could benefit from seeing these days).
You had the slow build to the return of Cactus Jack, the influx of ECW talent being brought in, the tag division was starting to bloom and seemed to get bigger by the week.
Not to mention it seemed like Chyna was getting her ass kicked every week at the hands of Jarrett at first, then Jericho a few weeks later...
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 7, 2015 15:50:59 GMT -5
Vince probably had plans to make Big Show a WWE Champion for a longer length than that, but it seemed like Vince gave up on Show not too long after he appeared on WWE TV. Maybe he still had too much WCW stank on him, but knowing it was in his contract as promised to have a WWE Title reign, they opted to do it then with Austin being injured and it puts in a shock value that WWE was known for giving.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 7, 2015 16:33:41 GMT -5
I still say that Test should have been in that spot. He was red hot during the time.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Jul 7, 2015 16:35:36 GMT -5
Well considering Show got sent to Heartland(?) to develop more as a performer and lose weight in 2000, it just confirms that he was still so green, despite making his debut in 95. I guess it came down to the WWF style, or maybe he was just getting too sloppy because he was out of shape (certainly seen in the past 10 years). I always heard he was tearing it up in WCW's developmental though. Doing moonsaults off the top rope or something. I'm sure I heard one time someone say he was supposedly doing Shooting Star Presses too, but I find that a bit farfetched. But during this time period in 99 he was doing (rope-aided) kip ups, which was a sight to see. Another thread that was sparked thanks to the Network, but have been watching the Smackdown's from August 99, at this point I'm at the SD after SS and all I can say is wow. I mean he was given the title out of the blue, it kinda made sense with the whole dying Dad storyline, but he was clearly a transitional Champion till the last few weeks of 99 when he feuded with DX and eventually lost. He was midcarding for nearly the entire 2 months he had the gold. What was the deal with this? I've always figured it was down to a clause in his contract (I remember reading that before WM15 was 100% set that WM2000's Main Event was set as Austin vs Big Show as a sort of homage to Hogan/Andre), but was it something different? Was it down to maybe just unpredictable plots, or even just a case of getting the title out of the Triple H/McMahon feud so you could still have feuds for the title and a main feud. I do love this period though, wish we had the Raw's available but thats a different discussion for a different thread, but seeing random guys who had been midcarding all year getting pushes was amazing; you had guys like Test, Val Venis, Al Snow and Big Boss Man Main Eventing show's and for me atleast watching now, its fresh and fun (something we could benefit from seeing these days). You had the slow build to the return of Cactus Jack, the influx of ECW talent being brought in, the tag division was starting to bloom and seemed to get bigger by the week. Not to mention it seemed like Chyna was getting her ass kicked every week at the hands of Jarrett at first, then Jericho a few weeks later...Chyna getting pounded on by 2 guys? Some things never change. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 16:44:42 GMT -5
The main thing I remember from SS 99 was when he mowed down every person on the other team during the SS tag match. It was funny as hell imo
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Post by Planktung on Jul 7, 2015 16:48:37 GMT -5
I wouldn't have been upset with Test getting the short title run instead of Big Show. Test vs. Hunter for the title could have main evented Armageddon, and in one match, the title switch AND Stephanie's heel turn could have happened.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 7, 2015 23:34:05 GMT -5
I wouldn't have been upset with Test getting the short title run instead of Big Show. Test vs. Hunter for the title could have main evented Armageddon, and in one match, the title switch AND Stephanie's heel turn could have happened. I always heard rumours that Test and Stephanie were legit dating in 1999 and broke up because Triple H and Steph got involved. I also heard Triple H wasn't a fan of Test (maybe cause he did date Stephanie for real) and it seemed Test never got a push in the WWE except for the time that Triple H was injured in 2001. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 1:08:48 GMT -5
Trust me, it was weird even in 1999 that Big Show and Bossman were feuding for the WWF title.
It is weird Test didn't get a real/longer/proper feud with Triple H after the whole Stephanie wedding ordeal but I'm very glad he never got a world title run. That would've been awful.
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Post by k5 on Jul 8, 2015 9:52:55 GMT -5
i wish the bigshow had been in ecw. i mean, from a career perspective he benefited from wcw/wwe of course - exposure, not quite as brutal as a style, guaranteed contracts. but as a character he just got put through the meat grinder time and time again, he wasn't protected, and he's been over exposed time and time again. it's been said by a few different wrestlers that the bigshow suffered from the weekly tv age as seeing him week in and week out destroys his biggest selling point - that he's a giant.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 10:56:46 GMT -5
I still say that Test should have been in that spot. He was red hot during the time. And he was in his peak performance wise. |
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Post by The Sexy Psychotic on Jul 8, 2015 11:32:24 GMT -5
i wish the bigshow had been in ecw. i mean, from a career perspective he benefited from wcw/wwe of course - exposure, not quite as brutal as a style, guaranteed contracts. but as a character he just got put through the meat grinder time and time again, he wasn't protected, and he's been over exposed time and time again. it's been said by a few different wrestlers that the bigshow suffered from the weekly tv age as seeing him week in and week out destroys his biggest selling point - that he's a giant. Never thought of that, but its so true; hell by King Of The Ring 99 there was no interest in the giant-side of him |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 11:42:49 GMT -5
Another thread that was sparked thanks to the Network, but have been watching the Smackdown's from August 99, at this point I'm at the SD after SS and all I can say is wow. I mean he was given the title out of the blue, it kinda made sense with the whole dying Dad storyline, but he was clearly a transitional Champion till the last few weeks of 99 when he feuded with DX and eventually lost. He was midcarding for nearly the entire 2 months he had the gold. What was the deal with this? I've always figured it was down to a clause in his contract (I remember reading that before WM15 was 100% set that WM2000's Main Event was set as Austin vs Big Show as a sort of homage to Hogan/Andre), but was it something different? Was it down to maybe just unpredictable plots, or even just a case of getting the title out of the Triple H/McMahon feud so you could still have feuds for the title and a main feud. I do love this period though, wish we had the Raw's available but thats a different discussion for a different thread, but seeing random guys who had been midcarding all year getting pushes was amazing; you had guys like Test, Val Venis, Al Snow and Big Boss Man Main Eventing show's and for me atleast watching now, its fresh and fun (something we could benefit from seeing these days). You had the slow build to the return of Cactus Jack, the influx of ECW talent being brought in, the tag division was starting to bloom and seemed to get bigger by the week. Not to mention it seemed like Chyna was getting her ass kicked every week at the hands of Jarrett at first, then Jericho a few weeks later... Good topic......this here is a stretch of WWE that's rarely talked about. Vince was still doing many things right....reuniting the floundering other members of DX under HHH as heels, stocking up from ECW/WCW and showcasing Rock.....but then he was seemingly throwing many crapcakes at the wall to see what would stick. The entire thing with the Big Show was SO out of the blue......and it shouldn't have been. Vince knew for MONTHS that Austin needed to go out(and soon)but seemingly didn't prep anybody in a replacement spot? Obviously Rock was being groomed since July(when they found out Austin was done for sure) but it seemed like Vince was unsure of future plans...aside from Rock vs HHH that is. Autumn 99 is a strange one for WWF. The news that Austin needed a year off was still reverberating strongly and then Russo and Ferrera left leaving Vince and co to write a 2nd show too. But hey it all worked out for the best. Show flopping as champ with the people led Vince to revive Cactus Jack as a vehicle to get HHH over.....and bow howdy we seen how that went!! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 13:58:22 GMT -5
I don't see Test getting a world title run being an option at all.
Even in 1999.
Like I said, I do agree more should've been done in regard to a feud with Triple H after the wedding debacle but a world title run? Test? No way, man. Even if it was a short run...there's no way it would've been short enough.
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Post by JC Motors on Jul 8, 2015 14:05:59 GMT -5
Trust me, it was weird even in 1999 that Big Show and Bossman were feuding for the WWF title. It is weird Test didn't get a real/longer/proper feud with Triple H after the whole Stephanie wedding ordeal but I'm very glad he never got a world title run. That would've been awful. We need a Big Show Big Boss Man Battle pack with the WWF title. That way we could get a Attitude Era Big Boss Man |
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Post by UltimateCollector78 on Jul 8, 2015 14:07:36 GMT -5
Interesting fact, Show wining the title at SS99 came only a month or so after Russo and Ferrara jumped to WCW.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 14:11:21 GMT -5
Trust me, it was weird even in 1999 that Big Show and Bossman were feuding for the WWF title. It is weird Test didn't get a real/longer/proper feud with Triple H after the whole Stephanie wedding ordeal but I'm very glad he never got a world title run. That would've been awful. We need a Big Show Big Boss Man Battle pack with the WWF title. That way we could get a Attitude Era Big Boss Man SWAT Bossman was one of the best BCA figures ever. The sculpt was good and he came with nightstick and cloth face mask thingy. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jul 8, 2015 14:18:05 GMT -5
Just a stopgap thing to try and lessen the blow of Austin being pulled from the match. "You don't get the biggest triple threat of all time that we've been advertising, but hey -- you get a surprise new champ!"
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Post by mikey1974 on Jul 8, 2015 14:18:03 GMT -5
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Post by JC Motors on Jul 8, 2015 14:19:02 GMT -5
We need a Big Show Big Boss Man Battle pack with the WWF title. That way we could get a Attitude Era Big Boss Man SWAT Bossman was one of the best BCA figures ever. The sculpt was good and he came with nightstick and cloth face mask thingy. I had that Boss Man figure that came in the 2pack with Stone Cold Steve Austin. I wish Big Boss Man was still alive |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 14:38:13 GMT -5
I don't see Test getting a world title run being an option at all. Even in 1999. Like I said, I do agree more should've been done in regard to a feud with Triple H after the wedding debacle but a world title run? Test? No way, man. Even if it was a short run...there's no way it would've been short enough. While I think Test shouldn't have been in the title picture over a certain ass-man, there's no denying his talent and popularity in 99. |
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