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Post by Planktung on Jul 23, 2015 0:13:11 GMT -5
It'll be difficult for Eva to win over fans in any way because she's already stigmatized as a "model who is only in pro wrestling for the fame." She can improve, but that really won't be enough. Look at the Bella Twins. Both Nikki and Brie have shown tremendous improvement, but a lot of people don't want to recognize that because of who they are. Back when Trish blossomed from a model with no wrestling background to one of the most successful females in history, the idea of "Wrestler > Model" wasn't really a thing. Now, in this day and age with so much legitimate talent in the Divas division, a title run for Eva Marie wouldn't be well received at all. And truthfully, I'd argue that we've seen some female competitors who are better than Trish. Trish started when you were four maybe five years old. There was no idea of wrestler > model back then because the companies you would have watched didn't generally have women's wrestling. Not that you'd remember it anyway. I know that's why there wasn't an idea of "Wrestler > Model" back then. In the modern day, though, there is and that's why the belief that Eva can do what Trish did doesn't work.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:14:46 GMT -5
Trish started when you were four maybe five years old. There was no idea of wrestler > model back then because the companies you would have watched didn't generally have women's wrestling. Not that you'd remember it anyway. I know that's why there wasn't an idea of "Wrestler > Model" back then. In the modern day, though, there is and that's why the belief that Eva can do what Trish did doesn't work. Kelly kelly and Nikki Bella did it. So there's that.
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Post by Planktung on Jul 23, 2015 0:15:53 GMT -5
I know that's why there wasn't an idea of "Wrestler > Model" back then. In the modern day, though, there is and that's why the belief that Eva can do what Trish did doesn't work. Kelly kelly and Nikki Bella did it. So there's that. Kelly and Nikki aren't universally viewed as some of the most talented female competitors like Trish is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:16:28 GMT -5
I know that's why there wasn't an idea of "Wrestler > Model" back then. In the modern day, though, there is and that's why the belief that Eva can do what Trish did doesn't work. Kelly kelly and Nikki Bella did it. So there's that. Kelly was 18. Nikki is 31 now. Eva is 30 and had two years to train but hasn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:17:04 GMT -5
Kelly kelly and Nikki Bella did it. So there's that. Kelly and Nikki aren't universally viewed as some of the most talented female competitors like Trish is. Did I say trish was talented?
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Post by Planktung on Jul 23, 2015 0:18:41 GMT -5
Kelly and Nikki aren't universally viewed as some of the most talented female competitors like Trish is. Did I say trish was talented? Nope, but it is a fact that Trish is considered by many to be one of the best in-ring female talents WWE has ever had.
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Post by Darkhawk on Jul 23, 2015 0:18:35 GMT -5
This thread is pretty much two people arguing back and forth on Eva and the divas division, I'm out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:21:26 GMT -5
Did I say trish was talented? Nope, but it is a fact that Trish is considered by many to be one of the best in-ring female talents WWE has ever had. Trish wasn't anything special. She basically did what Eva is doing now. Without continuing in in developmental like Eva is doing. Aside from Ivory, Victoria, and Molly Holly. Those divas from that era were pretty terrible.
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Post by Planktung on Jul 23, 2015 0:23:30 GMT -5
Nope, but it is a fact that Trish is considered by many to be one of the best in-ring female talents WWE has ever had. Trish wasn't anything special. She basically did what Eva is doing now. Without continuing in in developmental like Eva is doing. Aside from Ivory, Victoria, and Molly Holly. Those divas from that era were pretty terrible. Trish was very young when she started, though. Eva doesn't have that advantage, which is a big reason why is isn't likely for her to do what Trish did.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:23:31 GMT -5
Nope, but it is a fact that Trish is considered by many to be one of the best in-ring female talents WWE has ever had. Trish wasn't anything special. She basically did what Eva is doing now. Without continuing in in developmental like Eva is doing. Aside from Ivory, Victoria, and Molly Holly. Those divas from that era were pretty terrible. Trish was/is infinitely better than Eva.
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Post by Liv Is Life on Jul 23, 2015 0:25:29 GMT -5
Will she be a future divas champion? Probably, but she still has a long ways to go to even be passable. She's still slow and plodding in the ring, and while she doesn't quite look as lost as she once was, she really doesn't sell for crap either. She wasn't believable on those arm bars, she looked extremely half assed on her Sliced Bread and that has to be one of the worst running sentons Ive ever seen. I honestly expected more out of her based on everything Ive read..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:26:31 GMT -5
Trish wasn't anything special. She basically did what Eva is doing now. Without continuing in in developmental like Eva is doing. Aside from Ivory, Victoria, and Molly Holly. Those divas from that era were pretty terrible. Trish was very young when she started, though. Eva doesn't have that advantage, which is a big reason why is isn't likely for her to do what Trish did. So... Eva can't do it, but Nikki and brie can?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:27:42 GMT -5
Eva did awesome! She is my favorite Diva
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:27:31 GMT -5
Trish was very young when she started, though. Eva doesn't have that advantage, which is a big reason why is isn't likely for her to do what Trish did. So... Eva can't do it, but Nikki and brie can? Eva is almost 31, and is JUST NOW training. Brie and Nikki have been improving for years. So no, she likely cannot.
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Post by Planktung on Jul 23, 2015 0:30:10 GMT -5
Trish was very young when she started, though. Eva doesn't have that advantage, which is a big reason why is isn't likely for her to do what Trish did. So... Eva can't do it, but Nikki and brie can? Nikki and Brie started in their early-twenties. Eva is already 30. It's not likely to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:30:28 GMT -5
So... Eva can't do it, but Nikki and brie can? Eva is almost 31, and is JUST NOW training. Brie and Nikki have been improving for years. So no, she likely cannot. That explains why they got fired that time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:31:16 GMT -5
Eva is almost 31, and is JUST NOW training. Brie and Nikki have been improving for years. So no, she likely cannot. That explains why they got fired that time. It explains why Eva Marie will never be a good wrestler.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:31:48 GMT -5
So... Eva can't do it, but Nikki and brie can? Nikki and Brie started in their early-twenties. Eva is already 30. It's not likely to happen. Yeah.. They've improved, but before they got fired they had no clue what they were doing. Which is why they were fired.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 23, 2015 0:32:16 GMT -5
Eva isn't technically there in the WWE to wrestle constantly though. She was signed to be used on Total Divas. But she is decent.
I love how everyone on here bashes me if I diss Tamina Snuka, yet are quick to bash Eva Marie. How about we just all watch and see what happens??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 0:32:42 GMT -5
That explains why they got fired that time. It explains why Eva Marie will never be a good wrestler. So now not only are you a trained wrestler but you also see the future. Lol
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