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Post by Darkhawk on Oct 16, 2015 1:40:47 GMT -5
Man with Marvel getting the rights back to FF (hopefully it's true) I kinda wish they'd hold off Civil War. It would of been more epic if they hold it off and included more hero's in the movie including the Fantastic Four.
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Post by Robert69 on Oct 16, 2015 2:31:13 GMT -5
Agreed Word.....on all counts. I genuinely can't fathom what will land after IW. And yeah I reckon Fox and Marvel are just keeping quiet for now...... Like I posted on FB earlier today when hearing the news... Public perception is enemy #1 of this franchise right now. Get the rights back prior to Infinity Wars, introduce the characters alongside the Avengers, so people can get familiar with them, but they don't have to carry their own film -- and then give them a solo project AFTER that. They're valuable assets to the Marvel Universe in major battles such as this one...let them show up and do their part, in as minor of a role as needed... Then boom. You've got action figures out from a film people love, they'll subconsciously associate that love with these characters, and once they add knowing that the F4 are back with Marvel proper -- will be more willing to give them a new chance. You're welcome, Marvel Now cut me my check...please?
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Post by Robert69 on Oct 16, 2015 2:34:40 GMT -5
Also thought I'd share this here...pretty excited to start on this new stop motion venture...just a raw image off the camera. No editing of any kind. "A Warrior-King's throne is not given; it's earned. Earned in the blood of his enemies; of his peoples' enemies." "New Avengers: A Stop Motion Series" coming soon!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 3:48:52 GMT -5
Agreed Word.....on all counts. I genuinely can't fathom what will land after IW. And yeah I reckon Fox and Marvel are just keeping quiet for now...... Like I posted on FB earlier today when hearing the news... Public perception is enemy #1 of this franchise right now. Get the rights back prior to Infinity Wars, introduce the characters alongside the Avengers, so people can get familiar with them, but they don't have to carry their own film -- and then give them a solo project AFTER that. They're valuable assets to the Marvel Universe in major battles such as this one...let them show up and do their part, in as minor of a role as needed... Then boom. You've got action figures out from a film people love, they'll subconsciously associate that love with these characters, and once they add knowing that the F4 are back with Marvel proper -- will be more willing to give them a new chance. You're welcome, Marvel Now cut me my check...please? Yes indeed. I also feel that introducing them before IW would be great but here's my take on it. Your will have to wait til I finish work!! Then I will be back.....and I will tell you all how the FF should be introduced
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Post by Robert69 on Oct 16, 2015 3:50:46 GMT -5
Like I posted on FB earlier today when hearing the news... Public perception is enemy #1 of this franchise right now. Get the rights back prior to Infinity Wars, introduce the characters alongside the Avengers, so people can get familiar with them, but they don't have to carry their own film -- and then give them a solo project AFTER that. They're valuable assets to the Marvel Universe in major battles such as this one...let them show up and do their part, in as minor of a role as needed... Then boom. You've got action figures out from a film people love, they'll subconsciously associate that love with these characters, and once they add knowing that the F4 are back with Marvel proper -- will be more willing to give them a new chance. You're welcome, Marvel Now cut me my check...please? Yes indeed. I also feel that introducing them before IW would be great but here's my take on it. Your will have to wait til I finish work!! Then I will be back.....and I will tell you all how the FF should be introduced There are two take aways I'm most stoked about with this. #1...DR. DOOM! #2? ILLUMINATI!
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Post by Word™ on Oct 16, 2015 4:45:25 GMT -5
I really hope Marvel never introduces the Illuminati. And if they do, I'd hope they don't actually call them the Illuminati.
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Post by Robert69 on Oct 16, 2015 4:53:59 GMT -5
I really hope Marvel never introduces the Illuminati. And if they do, I'd hope they don't actually call them the Illuminati. There's so much potential for quality storytelling post-IW for them to exist, though! You can have the Illuminati minus either Mr. Fantastic, or Xavier -- but not both.
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Post by Suckasays on Oct 16, 2015 9:21:27 GMT -5
So the Hulk/Thor thing...
Any speculation? I think it's obvious that Hulk wound up leaving the planet at the end if Age of Ultron. So in what context do you think he and Thor will reunite in Ragnorok? I honestly don't think they'll ever make a Planet Hulk movie. So perhaps Thor finds Hulk after or at the end of something similar to the events of the Planet Hulk story. Thus possibly helping him with his predicament. Just wondering what everyone thought they'd do with this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 9:43:33 GMT -5
So the Hulk/Thor thing... Any speculation? I think it's obvious that Hulk wound up leaving the planet at the end if Age of Ultron. So in what context do you think he and Thor will reunite in Ragnorok? I honestly don't think they'll ever make a Planet Hulk movie. So perhaps Thor finds Hulk after or at the end of something similar to the events of the Planet Hulk story. Thus possibly helping him with his predicament. Just wondering what everyone thought they'd do with this. I don't think Hulk left the planet at all. This idea seems to have gained a lot of traction though....but I'm personally against it. I think Hulk will be used as a weapon against Thor during Ragnarok by Loki.Loki will transport him there and use him when Thor rumbles Loki. That's just my 2 pennies on it. I think Hulks role will be big by the sound of it.
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Post by Suckasays on Oct 16, 2015 9:51:13 GMT -5
So the Hulk/Thor thing... Any speculation? I think it's obvious that Hulk wound up leaving the planet at the end if Age of Ultron. So in what context do you think he and Thor will reunite in Ragnorok? I honestly don't think they'll ever make a Planet Hulk movie. So perhaps Thor finds Hulk after or at the end of something similar to the events of the Planet Hulk story. Thus possibly helping him with his predicament. Just wondering what everyone thought they'd do with this. I don't think Hulk left the planet at all. This idea seems to have gained a lot of traction though....but I'm personally against it. I think Hulk will be used as a weapon against Thor during Ragnarok by Loki.Loki will transport him there and use him when Thor rumbles Loki. That's just my 2 pennies on it. I think Hulks role will be big by the sound of it. That was just my first thought when he took off in that ship. I could be wrong but I can't imagine it being any other way. It would just lose effectiveness of that scene for me if he just flew off to another country and hid again. I just feel like he was of the mind that the only way people would be safe from him is by leaving the planet entirely. It could go either way. I do think we'll see Thor and Hulk lock horns at some point in this movie. Even if it's just the clone/Ragnkrok form if they go that route. Or if it's in the form of Loki manipulating Hulk.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 10:18:17 GMT -5
Yes indeed. I also feel that introducing them before IW would be great but here's my take on it. Your will have to wait til I finish work!! Then I will be back.....and I will tell you all how the FF should be introduced There are two take aways I'm most stoked about with this. #1...DR. DOOM! #2? ILLUMINATI! Heres how I would introduce the FF. (scene takes approx. 4-5 mins) IW1 opens with Stark going about his daily business and meeting an old friend of his in Reed Richards. Richards is looking for funding and Stark is more than happy to provide it. Reed steps out for a call and Stark explains to a skeptical Pepper that " Reed is the smartest guy I know....including me. He has been a bit of a recluse for a few years because his ideas about trans dimensional energy and alternate dimensions made him a laughing stock BUT because of everything that we have seen lately(Asgard, Infinity Stones etc)his ideas have gained some steam....Bruce & Myself were looking up his plans for monitoring a cosmic anomaly that only passes by Earth every couple of hundred years that will prove his theory before the whole Ultron thing.....I feel guilty for not backing him up all those years ago but I wont make that mistake again" Reed re-enters with Rhodey and Stark tells him the good news. They can take a shuttle(a modified experimental quinjet that Stark will provide) up to his new satellite observatory in near orbit and kit it out to get his experiment underway. He volunteers to provide help but Reed says he has all he needs personnel wise thanks to Hank Pym.. and asks Rhodey does he remember Ben Grimm from NASA? as he will pilot the shuttle, to which an excited Rhodey replies "yes indeed". Reed then explains renowned theoretical physics bod Dr Sue Storm & her brother Johnny as co pilot/mechanical troubleshooter will make up the nucleus of the group. The rest of the team can come up when they have the primary set up done as theres no point in everybody being up there doing nothing. Reed and Stark exchange goodbyes and we see no more of them for the rest of IW1. Infinity War II: At some point in the movie we see an ever anxious Reed monitoring events. he surmises that he was wrong about the anomaly and it may be connected to what's happening....he decides to go about his mission straight away to see can he help and the rest volunteer to go with him. During their flight through Earths atmosphere the shuttle gets hammered with energy from a battle(insert energy here it can be literally anything) and the shuttle crash lands in the ocean...rescue teams are dispatched and thats all we see of them until a post credit stinger. In the stinger we see a battered and bruised Stark getting led through a facility by Dr Cho. He tells her to "calm the hell down and just walk him through it"......she says " I cant explain whats happened to them its easier to show you....." Cue Cho opening a shutter window into a series of rooms showing the FF in various stages of their transformation.....Starks eyes widen in amazement and we fade to black. They can go into a it a bit more then in their own movie. whole thing minus the stinger takes about 12 mins over the 2 movies.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 10:23:27 GMT -5
I don't think Hulk left the planet at all. This idea seems to have gained a lot of traction though....but I'm personally against it. I think Hulk will be used as a weapon against Thor during Ragnarok by Loki.Loki will transport him there and use him when Thor rumbles Loki. That's just my 2 pennies on it. I think Hulks role will be big by the sound of it. That was just my first thought when he took off in that ship. I could be wrong but I can't imagine it being any other way. It would just lose effectiveness of that scene for me if he just flew off to another country and hid again. I just feel like he was of the mind that the only way people would be safe from him is by leaving the planet entirely. It could go either way. I do think we'll see Thor and Hulk lock horns at some point in this movie. Even if it's just the clone/Ragnkrok form if they go that route. Or if it's in the form of Loki manipulating Hulk. I forsee a full on Hulk vs Thor smackdown in Thor III......FULL ON. Loki will turn him loose. Cant see them using the clone thor angle either.....they wont use it in CW and I doubt they will here either(thankfully). It was good in the comics but IMO wont wash in the movies. can the Quinjets handle space? Or did Loki abduct him clear off the quinjet at the end of AOU?
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Post by Suckasays on Oct 16, 2015 10:56:50 GMT -5
That was just my first thought when he took off in that ship. I could be wrong but I can't imagine it being any other way. It would just lose effectiveness of that scene for me if he just flew off to another country and hid again. I just feel like he was of the mind that the only way people would be safe from him is by leaving the planet entirely. It could go either way. I do think we'll see Thor and Hulk lock horns at some point in this movie. Even if it's just the clone/Ragnkrok form if they go that route. Or if it's in the form of Loki manipulating Hulk. I forsee a full on Hulk vs Thor smackdown in Thor III......FULL ON. Loki will turn him loose. Cant see them using the clone thor angle either.....they wont use it in CW and I doubt they will here either(thankfully). It was good in the comics but IMO wont wash in the movies. can the Quinjets handle space? Or did Loki abduct him clear off the quinjet at the end of AOU? I would imagine the Quijets are pretty tough. Starks armor handled it to an extent at the end of Avengers. So while it would have eventually just drifted, I'd imagine it would be able to handle it. I don't know that an average person could have handled the ride but we're talking about The Hulk.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 12:03:19 GMT -5
There are two take aways I'm most stoked about with this. #1...DR. DOOM! #2? ILLUMINATI! Heres how I would introduce the FF. (scene takes approx. 4-5 mins) IW1 opens with Stark going about his daily business and meeting an old friend of his in Reed Richards. Richards is looking for funding and Stark is more than happy to provide it. Reed steps out for a call and Stark explains to a skeptical Pepper that " Reed is the smartest guy I know....including me. He has been a bit of a recluse for a few years because his ideas about trans dimensional energy and alternate dimensions made him a laughing stock BUT because of everything that we have seen lately(Asgard, Infinity Stones etc)his ideas have gained some steam....Bruce & Myself were looking up his plans for monitoring a cosmic anomaly that only passes by Earth every couple of hundred years that will prove his theory before the whole Ultron thing.....I feel guilty for not backing him up all those years ago but I wont make that mistake again" Reed re-enters with Rhodey and Stark tells him the good news. They can take a shuttle(a modified experimental quinjet that Stark will provide) up to his new satellite observatory in near orbit and kit it out to get his experiment underway. He volunteers to provide help but Reed says he has all he needs personnel wise thanks to Hank Pym.. and asks Rhodey does he remember Ben Grimm from NASA? as he will pilot the shuttle, to which an excited Rhodey replies "yes indeed". Reed then explains renowned theoretical physics bod Dr Sue Storm & her brother Johnny as co pilot/mechanical troubleshooter will make up the nucleus of the group. The rest of the team can come up when they have the primary set up done as theres no point in everybody being up there doing nothing. Reed and Stark exchange goodbyes and we see no more of them for the rest of IW1. Infinity War II: At some point in the movie we see an ever anxious Reed monitoring events. he surmises that he was wrong about the anomaly and it may be connected to what's happening....he decides to go about his mission straight away to see can he help and the rest volunteer to go with him. During their flight through Earths atmosphere the shuttle gets hammered with energy from a battle(insert energy here it can be literally anything) and the shuttle crash lands in the ocean...rescue teams are dispatched and thats all we see of them until a post credit stinger. In the stinger we see a battered and bruised Stark getting led through a facility by Dr Cho. He tells her to "calm the hell down and just walk him through it"......she says " I cant explain whats happened to them its easier to show you....." Cue Cho opening a shutter window into a series of rooms showing the FF in various stages of their transformation.....Starks eyes widen in amazement and we fade to black. They can go into a it a bit more then in their own movie. whole thing minus the stinger takes about 12 mins over the 2 movies. Please become a writer for Marvel.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 12:49:59 GMT -5
Heres how I would introduce the FF. (scene takes approx. 4-5 mins) IW1 opens with Stark going about his daily business and meeting an old friend of his in Reed Richards. Richards is looking for funding and Stark is more than happy to provide it. Reed steps out for a call and Stark explains to a skeptical Pepper that " Reed is the smartest guy I know....including me. He has been a bit of a recluse for a few years because his ideas about trans dimensional energy and alternate dimensions made him a laughing stock BUT because of everything that we have seen lately(Asgard, Infinity Stones etc)his ideas have gained some steam....Bruce & Myself were looking up his plans for monitoring a cosmic anomaly that only passes by Earth every couple of hundred years that will prove his theory before the whole Ultron thing.....I feel guilty for not backing him up all those years ago but I wont make that mistake again" Reed re-enters with Rhodey and Stark tells him the good news. They can take a shuttle(a modified experimental quinjet that Stark will provide) up to his new satellite observatory in near orbit and kit it out to get his experiment underway. He volunteers to provide help but Reed says he has all he needs personnel wise thanks to Hank Pym.. and asks Rhodey does he remember Ben Grimm from NASA? as he will pilot the shuttle, to which an excited Rhodey replies "yes indeed". Reed then explains renowned theoretical physics bod Dr Sue Storm & her brother Johnny as co pilot/mechanical troubleshooter will make up the nucleus of the group. The rest of the team can come up when they have the primary set up done as theres no point in everybody being up there doing nothing. Reed and Stark exchange goodbyes and we see no more of them for the rest of IW1. Infinity War II: At some point in the movie we see an ever anxious Reed monitoring events. he surmises that he was wrong about the anomaly and it may be connected to what's happening....he decides to go about his mission straight away to see can he help and the rest volunteer to go with him. During their flight through Earths atmosphere the shuttle gets hammered with energy from a battle(insert energy here it can be literally anything) and the shuttle crash lands in the ocean...rescue teams are dispatched and thats all we see of them until a post credit stinger. In the stinger we see a battered and bruised Stark getting led through a facility by Dr Cho. He tells her to "calm the hell down and just walk him through it"......she says " I cant explain whats happened to them its easier to show you....." Cue Cho opening a shutter window into a series of rooms showing the FF in various stages of their transformation.....Starks eyes widen in amazement and we fade to black. They can go into a it a bit more then in their own movie. whole thing minus the stinger takes about 12 mins over the 2 movies. Please become a writer for Marvel. LOL thanks man......I think that the FFs origin is best not consuming half a movie were all this speculation to be true.
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Post by RAC on Oct 16, 2015 13:15:21 GMT -5
Yeah, that's one of the better ideas for introducing the F4 in the universe. The other I heard is similar to Pym's stories, it starts off like yours but Reed is friends with Howard and they went into space in the 60's and were thought to have died but were stuck in a wormhole until something happens and they get their powers then come down to earth.
About the quinjet, we do see hear that it crashed in the ocean with no sign of the Hulk/Banner and that they found it months later since Clint's son has been born.
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Post by marino13 on Oct 16, 2015 22:22:13 GMT -5
IMO I think the days of Hulk fighting other Avengers should be over. Don't get me wrong, I love the erratic nature of his character. LOVE IT! But we've seen it in two movies already.
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Post by RAC on Oct 17, 2015 9:12:13 GMT -5
I think we'll still see some what that behavior from Hulk at first in Ragnarok but not like the other movies.
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Post by Joe Magnet on Oct 17, 2015 9:13:46 GMT -5
I completely agree with marino. We saw it in Avengers with Black Widow, and then in Age of Ultron with Stark. I don't want to see him do it with Thor. I understand having him in the movie since it's a set-up for IW and we'll need to find out where the Hulk is, however another good guy vs Hulk is just going to be annoying.
I'd like to see a Planet Hulk movie as one of those 3 unknowns(only if they occur before IW. I can't remember if they do). With Guardians obviously being in space, Captain Marvel being in space presumably, and then Infinity Wars, it makes too much sense to do Planet Hulk.
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Post by Word™ on Oct 17, 2015 15:22:46 GMT -5
Whatever happens in Thor 3, I think that Hulk is going to stay in space.
For some reason, regardless of what James Gunn says. I still think that the Guardians are going to find Hulk and bring him down to earth in Infinity War part 2.
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