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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jul 29, 2015 10:02:22 GMT -5
I don't wanna insult anyone at Mattel but how many times can they make these stupid mistakes. Everyone wanted Hollywood hogan,it should of been out.mattel didn't even really make the perfect hogan. They killed the legends line the first time by doing the same thing and giving us attires people didn't want or remember. Here we go with defining moments Bill tries too hard to be different. Sometimes it's just better to keep it simple and give people what they want. Instead of just putting out Jimmy Snuka the way everyone wanted him, Bill decided that an obscure attire nobody wanted or remembered was the way to go. 5 years later we still don't have a proper Jimmy Superfly Snuka. Bill decided to put out that horrible Sgt. Slaughter Legends figure as well, because his iconic look is in Army colors, Bill decided to be radical and do an attire that I don't even know where it's from? It took 5 years to correct that mistake in the HOF line at Target. Bill botched all of the Hulk Hogan figures. Like you said, they never actually gave us a Hogan that is the way everyone remembers him. Signature Series, WM Basic, and Elite 34 were essentially the same attire of current Hulk Hogan. Basic 48 and DM were the same attire as well (WM3). HOF2 was Wrestlemania 9 for some reason, I don't know of all Hogan's attires why they would choose that? So at the end of the day, we never got an early 90's Hogan, we never got Hollywood Hogan, and we never got 2002 Hulk Still Rules. Bill needs to stop trying to save the big attires to build suspense. Obscure and forgotten attires are just going to sit on the shelves and disappoint people. The first figure Mattel released should have been an early 90's Hogan. That should have been in the regular Elite line as a Flashback instead of Elite 34. Then, DM should have been Hollywood Hogan. Then, Hall of Fame Series 2 should have been 2002 Hulk Still Rules. Then, if they wanted to do "current" Hulk Hogan, they still could have kept Signature Series and WM31. Hell, even Basic 48 could have stayed the same. But DM, Elite 34, and HOF2 were major attire botches by Bill. The DM was not a botch. 80's Hogan was the right choice for the first Hogan figure. Everything after is where they screwed up. 1. DM (1987) 2. WCW nWo 3. 2002 Hogan 4. 1990 Hogan 5. WWE nWo 6. Current Hogan 7. AWA (The RSC Exclusive) 8. Wrestlemania 9 (I'd put this last because not only because of how poor the moment was, but because of how bad Hogan looked at this event. Way smaller, crap attire, and black eye to boot.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2015 10:04:37 GMT -5
There was no way anyone could predict that, but man it feels like we got a lot of unnecessary fringe Hogan figures like the HOF and RSC Hogans instead of versions that were highly demanded like the nWo, a 2002 Hulk Still Rules and a 1990-1992 era Hogan. Hope this gives Mattel some insight that nothing is a given with these legends and it's better to get the most in-demand versions out right away instead of milking it out for later. THIS. What irritates me the most about all of this is we get a definitive no from twitter and bill couldn't address this himself to us. At least say yeah... No hogan, but as a way to make it up I have so and so coming out in his place now. ...he's probably terrified to come on here... Hollywood Hogan was going to be available by the very end of this year, it was literally on its way. It was pegged for the Royal Rumble spot, which means we would have been able to get it in about three months. I don't think anyone could have predicted that something from several years ago was going to come up and cause this situation. Stop being so butt hurt towards Mattel about them wasting spots. Half of you crying that they wasted Hogan spots, weren't crying when you were picking them up in stores. True - we were gladly picking them up. But would we MUCH RATHER have had NWO and Hulk Still Rules Hogans than the E34, RSC, HOF figures? Heck YES. And again - it's true that no-one could have predicted this situation... but given it took Mattel 5 YEARS to be able to make Hogan figures in the first place - and also given Hogan and WWE's fragile on/off relationship since the '90's - why wait SO LONG to bring out his iconic attires? The NWO figure was a HUIGE want for most fans.... and they had plenty of time to make it (and the Still Rules figure too). I'd much rather of had better Hogans than what we got too, trust me. Half of what we got were "meh" at best. If this unpredictable situation didn't happen, we would have got them all eventually, and sooner rather than later at the speed Mattel cranked out Hogan this year.
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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 29, 2015 10:07:15 GMT -5
You have to remember that the first Hogan (DM) hit shelves 6 months ago. Bill planned Hollywood exactly 1 year from the first Hogan release. It's not like he waited as long between Legends Slaughter and HOF Slaughter. You really can't blame him, no one saw this coming. If Bill put out all those attires we want in 12 months where can they really go with Hogan for the next few years? ... then they can make things like the American Made and WM9 Hogans. And also stuff like WCW Hogan, WM1/red-shirt Hogan, different versions of NWO and Still Rules Hogans... they were never going to run out of attires(!).
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 29, 2015 10:09:45 GMT -5
Bill tries too hard to be different. Sometimes it's just better to keep it simple and give people what they want. Instead of just putting out Jimmy Snuka the way everyone wanted him, Bill decided that an obscure attire nobody wanted or remembered was the way to go. 5 years later we still don't have a proper Jimmy Superfly Snuka. Bill decided to put out that horrible Sgt. Slaughter Legends figure as well, because his iconic look is in Army colors, Bill decided to be radical and do an attire that I don't even know where it's from? It took 5 years to correct that mistake in the HOF line at Target. Bill botched all of the Hulk Hogan figures. Like you said, they never actually gave us a Hogan that is the way everyone remembers him. Signature Series, WM Basic, and Elite 34 were essentially the same attire of current Hulk Hogan. Basic 48 and DM were the same attire as well (WM3). HOF2 was Wrestlemania 9 for some reason, I don't know of all Hogan's attires why they would choose that? So at the end of the day, we never got an early 90's Hogan, we never got Hollywood Hogan, and we never got 2002 Hulk Still Rules. Bill needs to stop trying to save the big attires to build suspense. Obscure and forgotten attires are just going to sit on the shelves and disappoint people. The first figure Mattel released should have been an early 90's Hogan. That should have been in the regular Elite line as a Flashback instead of Elite 34. Then, DM should have been Hollywood Hogan. Then, Hall of Fame Series 2 should have been 2002 Hulk Still Rules. Then, if they wanted to do "current" Hulk Hogan, they still could have kept Signature Series and WM31. Hell, even Basic 48 could have stayed the same. But DM, Elite 34, and HOF2 were major attire botches by Bill. You have to remember that the first Hogan (DM) hit shelves 6 months ago. Bill planned Hollywood exactly 1 year from the first Hogan release. It's not like he waited as long between Legends Slaughter and HOF Slaughter. You really can't blame him, no one saw this coming. If Bill put out all those attires we want in 12 months where can they really go with Hogan for the next few years? I understand if you do all the big attires first, you've limited your market for future Hogan figures......but now Mattel finds themselves with too many bullets left in the chamber. And even before this whole n-word thing happened, we've still known about this sex tape for YEARS and that Hogan was suing over it and that it was going to a very public trial.....with WWE and Mattel being PG, there was a pretty good chance that WWE and Hogan were going to part ways and Mattel was going to cease production of his figures anyway. The n words just made it worse and led to WWE erasing him from history. If all he'd done on that tape was nail her and leave, WWE probably would have just not used him for a while and brought him back after the trial. Now, even if Hogan wins the trial, he's still ruined.
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Post by ZDB on Jul 29, 2015 10:12:18 GMT -5
You have to remember that the first Hogan (DM) hit shelves 6 months ago. Bill planned Hollywood exactly 1 year from the first Hogan release. It's not like he waited as long between Legends Slaughter and HOF Slaughter. You really can't blame him, no one saw this coming. If Bill put out all those attires we want in 12 months where can they really go with Hogan for the next few years? ... then they can make things like the American Made and WM9 Hogans. And also stuff like WCW Hogan, WM1/red-shirt Hogan, different versions of NWO and Still Rules Hogans... they were never going to run out of attires(!). It's un-realistic to think they would hit all the big attires within a year, then drop off to more obscure attires
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Post by Last Trent Barreta Fan on Jul 29, 2015 10:15:16 GMT -5
I don't wanna insult anyone at Mattel but how many times can they make these stupid mistakes. Everyone wanted Hollywood hogan,it should of been out.mattel didn't even really make the perfect hogan. They killed the legends line the first time by doing the same thing and giving us attires people didn't want or remember. Here we go with defining moments B48 is pretty perfect to me
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Post by JHTB® on Jul 29, 2015 10:19:01 GMT -5
If they've started production on the figure then there is a chance of obtaining it
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Post by TheWrestleGeek on Jul 29, 2015 10:19:45 GMT -5
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jul 29, 2015 10:20:46 GMT -5
If they've started production on the figure then there is a chance of obtaining it I don't think they did. They only had a CGI pic of it at Comic Con. Not even a physical prototype.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Jul 29, 2015 10:22:17 GMT -5
Well we already knew that answer.Personally I'm very happy with the ones we got. I love that we got American Made Hogan. If I had to trade one hogan for Hollywood I would trade Elite 34. Just picked that up by the way, debating on opening or not.
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Post by customania on Jul 29, 2015 10:22:25 GMT -5
I saw this yesterday , I guess no more Hogan threads. It's a shame but a 100% understandable the hulkster let us down and all other fans of WWE and him.
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Post by Mr. Show on Jul 29, 2015 10:23:54 GMT -5
What irritates me the most about all of this is we get a definitive no from twitter and bill couldn't address this himself to us. At least say yeah... No hogan, but as a way to make it up I have so and so coming out in his place now. The way people treat Bill around here when they don't get everything they want, I wouldn't blame him if he never posted on here again. The complaints in the SDCC thread this year alone, were a huge disgrace to the wrestling figure community.
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Post by tampatoys813 on Jul 29, 2015 10:27:57 GMT -5
I have a question? First Mattel makes the decision to spend a bunch of time and money sculpting and building a figure that they never had the rights to... And then right at the end they come up with a filler and say how important it is that everyone gets a chance at SDCC Taker... Which is a load of BS... They ed up... If Owen was signed (I assume it was him) do u really think Mattel would be re-issuing taker? And now While they could have never know what was going to happen with Hogan, surely the question has to be asked, how much money have they missed out on? Let's for argument say they released Hogan (red/yellow) and Hollywood back to back would it really have affected the DM viablity? Again they could never have know, and I would be thinking this figure will see the light in a couple of years time. But surely questions are being asked... All that time, tooling and money in development of 2 figures - for nothing. I guess we know why elites are $20.00 + Well said
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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 29, 2015 10:32:57 GMT -5
If they've started production on the figure then there is a chance of obtaining it I don't think they did. They only had a CGI pic of it at Comic Con. Not even a physical prototype. ...yeah - I think there might be a chance of "obtaining" the T-shirt series Hulk though, as that whole series was ready to go...
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Post by legendsguy on Jul 29, 2015 10:35:09 GMT -5
I don't think they did. They only had a CGI pic of it at Comic Con. Not even a physical prototype. ...yeah - I think there might be a chance of "obtaining" the T-shirt series Hulk though, as that whole series was ready to go... only prob they have with T shirt is if stores already has cases shipped. if they are still in China somewhere , you can bet they are getting pulled from boxes as we speak. they wont ship out anymore Hogans. period. =}
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 29, 2015 10:36:43 GMT -5
I don't think they did. They only had a CGI pic of it at Comic Con. Not even a physical prototype. ...yeah - I think there might be a chance of "obtaining" the T-shirt series Hulk though, as that whole series was ready to go... They have to do something with them right... Might as well toss them all in the Bay.
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Post by jcm3344 on Jul 29, 2015 10:43:35 GMT -5
We are not getting it and that sucks.I am willing to bet that it will happen down the line if Hogan does everything WWE asks of him to do and people accept his apology after time. We will see. Since it's no longer coming out, what will take it's place? We get SDCC Taker as this years 4th due to some issues as a quick replacement, what would be another easy fix for it's place? By now, it would almost have to be an easy quick fix.
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Post by JKLMD2002 on Jul 29, 2015 10:55:36 GMT -5
DM Cactus Jack or Bret Hart in all pink to stave off the eBay scalpers and give the fans who previously missed out on the figures a chance to get them. :-)
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Post by SteveHulk on Jul 29, 2015 10:55:35 GMT -5
Since it's no longer coming out, what will take it's place? We get SDCC Taker as this years 4th due to some issues as a quick replacement, what would be another easy fix for it's place? By now, it would almost have to be an easy quick fix. British Bulldog with the Union Jack flag... (they had a proto of him already made).
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jul 29, 2015 11:00:35 GMT -5
...yeah - I think there might be a chance of "obtaining" the T-shirt series Hulk though, as that whole series was ready to go... only prob they have with T shirt is if stores already has cases shipped. if they are still in China somewhere , you can bet they are getting pulled from boxes as we speak. they wont ship out anymore Hogans. period. =} I'm going to be walking on thin ice here, but there were at least 5 legitimate, real, MOC Elite 1 Jeff Hardy's that made it out of the factory in cases. There will be more than 5 tshirt Hogan's that make it to retail.
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