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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Aug 7, 2015 13:31:56 GMT -5
These guys are awesome, I have loved them since I started watching NXT for over a year. They were why I tuned into NXT for the longest time. Months, and I waited patiently for their possible title reign. You could say they aren't the most polished in the ring, but they are so damn entertaining, it makes up for it. I love their gimmick, the crowd gets behind these guys more than anybody else, they are the ultimate underdogs. Enzo is like a scrappy chihuahua that is comical to watch and listen to. He gets his ass kicked every match and then tags in the muscle. Big Cass just looks like a WWE superstar, the guy belongs up there. He is shining on the mic also, it's not just Enzo anymore. I waited and waited for them to get a title shot. They got one, lost, and now are second-rate behind The Vaudvillains... The WWE should be desperate for great tag teams, and I think these guys will be big on the Main roster one day, despite this crappy booking. They got heel vs heel at NXT:Brooklyn, I couldn't give 2 s about this match, what a shame. Will they ever win NXT tag-team gold? And if so, how long are these guys going to be stuck in NXT? I can feel that these guys will get over with the fans on the big stage, use this thread to talk about anything Enzo and Big Cass
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Post by robbutler01 on Aug 7, 2015 14:09:41 GMT -5
When i first saw Enzo i thought - what the ..... But he really grew into his character and i hope him and big cass can make a successful transition to the main roster. Could be a big asset if they're pushed right and the bookers don't go S. A. W. F. T. SAWFT!
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Post by Joey Cush on Aug 7, 2015 14:10:00 GMT -5
I think they're absolutely terrible.
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Post by Red Dragon on Aug 7, 2015 14:15:26 GMT -5
I didn't like them at the start but they've grown on me. I really enjoy their stick now. They have improved in the ring. Gotta disagree with some of the points made: Vaudvillains are faces now. Cass and Enzo will get their title shot, it's all in the build up. Calling them up would be wrong, give them more time in the ring, give them a title reign and then call them up.
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Post by Darkhawk on Aug 7, 2015 14:18:12 GMT -5
I don't see what the big deal is about the two, I feel once they get to the main roster they are going to fail.
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Post by slappy on Aug 7, 2015 14:20:53 GMT -5
I think they're absolutely terrible. I'm not a fan of theirs either.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Aug 7, 2015 14:26:29 GMT -5
The need to stay in NXT for a LONG LONG time. Not because they aren't good but because calling them up too early would be a death sentence.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Aug 7, 2015 14:26:59 GMT -5
They are the kind of team you either love or hate. Perfect for WWE, as indifference is what flops. I also hated carmella with them at first, but now I like her and she is "hot as hell"
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Aug 7, 2015 14:29:44 GMT -5
The need to stay in NXT for a LONG LONG time. Not because they aren't good but because calling them up too early would be a death sentence. Yes, they could keep getting better, and Cass bigger. Also could have a lengthy NXT tag title run before even hitting the main roster. I just don't like seeing such buildups that really don't amount to anything. They've been the best tag team in NXT for a very long time IMO.
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jcjdotcom
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Post by jcjdotcom on Aug 7, 2015 14:30:20 GMT -5
I think they're a lot of fun, sort of an updated New Age Outlaws, but they do need more seasoning in NXT.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Aug 7, 2015 14:31:14 GMT -5
I think they're a lot of fun, sort of an updated New Age Outlaws, but they do need more seasoning in NXT. I have thought this before too, agree they are not ready yet.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Aug 7, 2015 14:35:04 GMT -5
I didn't like them at the start but they've grown on me. I really enjoy their stick now. They have improved in the ring. Gotta disagree with some of the points made: Vaudvillains are faces now. Cass and Enzo will get their title shot, it's all in the build up. Calling them up would be wrong, give them more time in the ring, give them a title reign and then call them up. It must have been a very subtle face turn, because they crushed the hopes and dreams of big cass and enzo, so I hate them atm. But I don't argue that the Vaudvillains are deserving of a shot, they have been grinding along with Cass and Enzo for a long time. I really think they are born heels tho, kind of confused by that. I think it is lack of tag-team talent screaming through the entire company.
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WMDman
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Post by WMDman on Aug 7, 2015 14:45:39 GMT -5
Love them both, def need to get more polished in their ring work before getting called up
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 7, 2015 14:50:37 GMT -5
The catch phrase they have in NXT is perfect for the NXT audience because there is like a few hundred people and they are mostly 20 - 30 year old's.
If they tried that crap on Raw or Smackdown, the fans there would be totally lost. Little kids with their parents are not gonna care about the catch phrases of them. And yes, I have heard the rebuttal before, "But the New Age Outlaws catch phrase worked." The difference is, the NAO catch phrase was like a song, it had a rhythm. You knew how to say it, when to say it, and how it went. Enzo's catch phrase is just yelling his name and saying something about himself followed by "you can't teach that."
Adam Rose is a perfect example of failing in WWE. In front of an NXT crowd, he got over. Take that crap to Raw or Smackdown and it won't fly in this day of sports entertainment.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Aug 7, 2015 15:10:23 GMT -5
The catch phrase they have in NXT is perfect for the NXT audience because there is like a few hundred people and they are mostly 20 - 30 year old's. If they tried that crap on Raw or Smackdown, the fans there would be totally lost. Little kids with their parents are not gonna care about the catch phrases of them. And yes, I have heard the rebuttal before, "But the New Age Outlaws catch phrase worked." The difference is, the NAO catch phrase was like a song, it had a rhythm. You knew how to say it, when to say it, and how it went. Enzo's catch phrase is just yelling his name and saying something about himself followed by "you can't teach that." Adam Rose is a perfect example of failing in WWE. In front of an NXT crowd, he got over. Take that crap to Raw or Smackdown and it won't fly in this day of sports entertainment. I can see your points, but isn't it time we got something that's geared towards 20-30 year olds? Let the kids have Cena...
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Post by LtD73 on Aug 7, 2015 15:10:40 GMT -5
Hated them when I first started watching NXT and now they're my favourite tag team in NXT, but yeah I think they should be added to the tag title match and win the titles in Brooklyn
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 7, 2015 15:14:28 GMT -5
The catch phrase they have in NXT is perfect for the NXT audience because there is like a few hundred people and they are mostly 20 - 30 year old's. If they tried that crap on Raw or Smackdown, the fans there would be totally lost. Little kids with their parents are not gonna care about the catch phrases of them. And yes, I have heard the rebuttal before, "But the New Age Outlaws catch phrase worked." The difference is, the NAO catch phrase was like a song, it had a rhythm. You knew how to say it, when to say it, and how it went. Enzo's catch phrase is just yelling his name and saying something about himself followed by "you can't teach that." Adam Rose is a perfect example of failing in WWE. In front of an NXT crowd, he got over. Take that crap to Raw or Smackdown and it won't fly in this day of sports entertainment. I can see your points, but isn't it time we got something that's geared towards 20-30 year olds? Let the kids have Cena... I think that's why Brock Lesnar is in the WWE, for the 20 - 30 year old fans. The WWE is concerned with children and family atmosphere. They want easy to like and easy to hate wrestlers for the fans to cheer and boo. If it was 10 years ago during the Ruthless Aggression era, maybe Enzo and Big Cass would make it.
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Post by AmericanMadeLesGold on Aug 7, 2015 15:22:06 GMT -5
All I can say is:
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Post by Tyler Black on Aug 7, 2015 15:55:17 GMT -5
The catch phrase they have in NXT is perfect for the NXT audience because there is like a few hundred people and they are mostly 20 - 30 year old's. If they tried that crap on Raw or Smackdown, the fans there would be totally lost. Little kids with their parents are not gonna care about the catch phrases of them. And yes, I have heard the rebuttal before, "But the New Age Outlaws catch phrase worked." The difference is, the NAO catch phrase was like a song, it had a rhythm. You knew how to say it, when to say it, and how it went. Enzo's catch phrase is just yelling his name and saying something about himself followed by "you can't teach that." Adam Rose is a perfect example of failing in WWE. In front of an NXT crowd, he got over. Take that crap to Raw or Smackdown and it won't fly in this day of sports entertainment. That's not their main catch phrase, that's their Schtick. Their main catch phrase is SAWFT, it has a rhythm to it and is very easy to follow, it will get over. I love Enzo and Big Cass, they remind me a lot of the kids I grew up with. Enzo needs in ring work, no ones saying he has to be Zayn or Owens in the ring, but he can definitely improve
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Post by jakksking1 on Aug 7, 2015 15:58:58 GMT -5
They will be over on the main roster. Most fans just want to chant stuff anyways. Brie Bella was massively over heading into Summerslam cause she stole the YES chant.
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