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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 20:33:27 GMT -5
The miz is absolutely hands down, the most over pushed star ever.
It sucks that we don't have more ziggler elite, but not many would be different aside from trunks and shirt.
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Post by PJ on Aug 9, 2015 20:35:26 GMT -5
Miz was a main eventer Ziggler was never a main eventer That's the answer Who scored the winning pin in the main event of survivor series last year? Sting!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 20:35:41 GMT -5
So, 11 between the two?
Could've had like 6 flashbacks instead
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2015 20:36:14 GMT -5
Ziggler >>>>>> Turds leaving my ass >>>>>>> The Miz
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Post by JNH2248 on Aug 9, 2015 20:41:11 GMT -5
They've all been pretty great figures, although I didn't like the WM28! BAF. On a side note, I'm still baffled how Jericho only had 2 Elites. Exactly
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Post by PJ on Aug 9, 2015 20:41:21 GMT -5
Actually that e37 Miz looks pretty sweet. As for Dolph I will never buy another of his Elites as long as they continue to Jack him up. His Elites have been ruined since the e19 figure. That and the e24(?) Are both way out of scale with this huge arms and legs.
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Post by Mox on Aug 9, 2015 20:43:48 GMT -5
The Miz is one of five or six guys who can speak well. And of those guys, he's the best. But nevermind that, he sucks.
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Post by JNH2248 on Aug 9, 2015 20:46:55 GMT -5
Who main evented Wrestlemania? Survivor Series hasn't been relevant in a decade To be fair though they could have put anyone in Miz's spot at Wrestlemania that year. The whole build up revolved around Cena/Rock, and was probably one of the worst WM Main Events there's been. Miz was the the Champion in the main event match and no-one cared, all the focus was on Cena/Rock. Kinda felt sorry for Miz, he deserved better. Using the Wrestlemania main event to set up next years Wrestlemania main event was ing stupid. That whole Wrestlemania was weird. Back on topic though We really need a new Ziggler elite. The fact we haven't had an Elite Ziggler figure since Series 24 is pretty bad when you take into account: Since Elite24 Dean Ambrose has had 3 Elite figures, same goes for Seth. Sin Cara has had 2 since Elite25. Bray Wyatt has had 2 since Elite28. Luke Harper has had 2 since Elite29. Goldust had had 2 since Elite29. Since we got the last Ziggler Elite freaking Sin Cara has had 2 Elite figures! And the fact that Jericho has only ever had 2 Elite figures is criminal! Didn't realise it was that bad. Its pretty damn bad...
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Post by Chewdeezy on Aug 9, 2015 20:55:36 GMT -5
Because Miz is aaawwwwwesome?
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Post by TheChamp420 on Aug 9, 2015 20:55:32 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Miz or his figures, I've just always thought of those guys along the same lines, both mid-upper mid card guys, decent speakers, decent workers, was just wondering if MDT had some reasoning for making more Miz elites...pretty much since WM27 Miz has been on and off WWE TV due to movies & such, while Ziggler has been pretty consistent, other than is concussion after his cash in & this most recent "injury". I agree with PJ though, his gigantic arms need to go, his e19 legs were large too, but when they did E24 they fixed that since he was in the shorts style, instead of straight up trunks. I'd also like a DZ with messy hair & some dark roots showing through
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Post by RKSimm on Aug 9, 2015 21:07:44 GMT -5
Yeah Ziggler is much better. 2 time champ enough said. Should be getting more reigns asap
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Post by RybackV1 on Aug 9, 2015 21:08:43 GMT -5
What the is everyone clamoring for a new Ziggler elite for? We know the body molds they use on his new ones are atrocious. And he had two come out that hardly sold in e19 and e24. Miz deserves the figures. Constantly evolving constantly changing attires and entrance stuff Ziggler stays the same. Yay new text on plain black trunks , so figure worthy.
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Post by DIESEL on Aug 9, 2015 21:20:02 GMT -5
The Miz-
World Tag Team Champion - 2X
WWE Intercontinental Champion - 4X
WWE Champion - 1X
WWE Tag Team Champion - 4X
United States Champion - 2X
13 total championships.
Dolph Ziggler-
World Heavyweight Champion - 2X (The Miz's one reign as WWE Champion was longer than Ziggler's two reigns.)
World Tag Team Champion - 1X
Intercontinental Champion - 4X
United States Champion 1X
8 total championships.
That's why.
Don't get me wrong, I like Ziggler. But Miz deserves it.
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Post by CollectiblesRob on Aug 9, 2015 22:19:28 GMT -5
Miz is a former WWE Champion. Headliner of WrestleMania. Has had multiple different forms of media and movie roles in WWE. And never has been injured. Ziggler had the World title for what felt like a minute. Has done zero media. And has had less if barely any drastic attire changes compared to Miz.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 9, 2015 22:21:42 GMT -5
John Cena has more Elites than Miz and Ziggler Combined
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Aug 9, 2015 22:31:35 GMT -5
The Miz- World Tag Team Champion - 2X WWE Intercontinental Champion - 4X WWE Champion - 1X WWE Tag Team Champion - 4X United States Champion - 2X 13 total championships. Dolph Ziggler- World Heavyweight Champion - 2X (The Miz's one reign as WWE Champion was longer than Ziggler's two reigns.) World Tag Team Champion - 1X Intercontinental Champion - 4X United States Champion 1X 8 total championships. That's why. Don't get me wrong, I like Ziggler. But Miz deserves it. The number of titles doesn't mean anything because they aren't actually won. Cena has 15 world titles, but he's also lost 15 world titles. And if they did matter, almost half of Miz's titles were tag titles. What matters is Miz main evented Wrestlemania, and was only the 4th heel to walk out of Wrestlemania with a world title.
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Post by DIESEL on Aug 9, 2015 22:36:40 GMT -5
The Miz- World Tag Team Champion - 2X WWE Intercontinental Champion - 4X WWE Champion - 1X WWE Tag Team Champion - 4X United States Champion - 2X 13 total championships. Dolph Ziggler- World Heavyweight Champion - 2X (The Miz's one reign as WWE Champion was longer than Ziggler's two reigns.) World Tag Team Champion - 1X Intercontinental Champion - 4X United States Champion 1X 8 total championships. That's why. Don't get me wrong, I like Ziggler. But Miz deserves it. The number of titles doesn't mean anything because they aren't actually won. Cena has 15 world titles, but he's also lost 15 world titles. And if they did matter, almost half of Miz's titles were tag titles. What matters is Miz main evented Wrestlemania, and was only the 4th heel to walk out of Wrestlemania with a world title. I see what your saying. Just proving a point. But I don't like all of The Miz hate. I mean, I know recently he's been stale, but The Miz is one of the best heels ever.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Aug 9, 2015 23:15:17 GMT -5
I can't believe they really have no plans for upcoming Elites of Dolph or Ryback. The retooled scan they did of Ziggler with the longer hair looked horrible and I thought they would just use that as a placeholder until a new scan was ready, but it doesn't look like that's the case.
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Post by gregrules420 on Aug 9, 2015 23:19:06 GMT -5
Dont get me wrong... Ziggler is amazing In ring and on the Mic as a heel... he's not that great as a face... that being said The Miz's mic work is quite possibly some of the best especially since he's come back and with this whole you guys don't really appreciate me you guys don't know what you're missing bit he has completely surpassed Ziggler in my mind... so I don't mind that he's had seven elites still criminal that dolph has had only four.. and as far as Jericho goes he's part time right now so he's not going to get as many as the rest that are in the company full time are going to get arm I reedin dis rite// u think Miz iz gud on the mike1? I think he's good at making you hate him which makes me love him
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Post by ZDB on Aug 9, 2015 23:28:54 GMT -5
I can't believe they really have no plans for upcoming Elites of Dolph or Ryback. The retooled scan they did of Ziggler with the longer hair looked horrible and I thought they would just use that as a placeholder until a new scan was ready, but it doesn't look like that's the case. They will. Last SDCC Bill said he didn't even know if he had the rights to Farooq, and now we have APA a year later
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