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Post by ZDB on Sept 15, 2015 20:50:05 GMT -5
All records are meaningless so why is everyone making a big fuss over this one?
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Post by marino13 on Sept 15, 2015 21:11:11 GMT -5
Nikki Bella isn't the champion because of who's she sleeps with or because they want to spite AJ Lee. She is simply the only option when it comes to the girls remaining. Look at the roster since Nikki won the title in November. I assume, and the Bellas have stated, that the plan was for Nikki vs. Brie to continue. Brie should have taken the title off of her sister by the Royal Rumble but they changed course and Brie sided with her, taking her out of the equation to win the belt. Paige is a good option, but has been insanely mediocre in 2015. Emma is also better in the ring than Nikki, but was unable to get over and has rightfully been sent back to NXT to fix things. Naomi isn't very good. That's it for contenders to Nikki. Now we finally have girls worthy of taking the belt but they've just come up and the "Divas Revolution" hasn't exactly taken off. Outside of purely wanting Nikki to lose, why should any fan care about seeing Charlotte win? What has Charlotte done to make anyone like her on the main roster unless you really miss Ric Flair? Honestly, as a performer, Nikki is pretty good. She's improved in the ring and there are only really two things that bug me about her. 1) Her promos aren't very good, mainly due to how poor of an actress she is and 2) she seems to work the arm in matches but has no finisher that it leads to. It's like she works the arm for the sake of working a body part, with no real rhyme or reason. There are much bigger problems with the Divas division than who the champion is. You get it.
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Post by CrazyCanuck on Sept 15, 2015 21:19:38 GMT -5
I didn't see Raw last night, I don't watch Raw anymore because I don't like it. The show sucks, IN MY OPINION. I am personally not a fan of Nikki Bella. I am considered a "hater" in your terms. I think there were much more talented options to break AJ's record than Nikki Bella. Nikki Bella has completely ruined the Divas division for me. I am so sick and tired of her and have absolutely no interest in a divas segment if it involves a Bella twin. But that's just me.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 15, 2015 21:29:25 GMT -5
I didn't see Raw last night, I don't watch Raw anymore because I don't like it. The show sucks, IN MY OPINION. I am personally not a fan of Nikki Bella. I am considered a "hater" in your terms. I think there were much more talented options to break AJ's record than Nikki Bella. Nikki Bella has completely ruined the Divas division for me. I am so sick and tired of her and have absolutely no interest in a divas segment if it involves a Bella twin. But that's just me. I totally get that it's your opinion and you are entitled to it but I'm curious as to who you would put the title on. I noted this earlier Paige is a good option, but has been insanely mediocre in 2015. Emma is also better in the ring than Nikki, but was unable to get over and has rightfully been sent back to NXT to fix things. Naomi isn't very good. That's it for contenders to Nikki. Now we finally have girls worthy of taking the belt but they've just come up and the "Divas Revolution" hasn't exactly taken off. Outside of purely wanting Nikki to lose, why should any fan care about seeing Charlotte win? What has Charlotte done to make anyone like her on the main roster unless you really miss Ric Flair? There weren't really any options in 2015.
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Post by Midnight on Sept 15, 2015 21:33:55 GMT -5
Congratulations to Nikki Bella!!!! Well deserved after all of her hard work.
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Post by CrazyCanuck on Sept 15, 2015 22:04:33 GMT -5
I didn't see Raw last night, I don't watch Raw anymore because I don't like it. The show sucks, IN MY OPINION. I am personally not a fan of Nikki Bella. I am considered a "hater" in your terms. I think there were much more talented options to break AJ's record than Nikki Bella. Nikki Bella has completely ruined the Divas division for me. I am so sick and tired of her and have absolutely no interest in a divas segment if it involves a Bella twin. But that's just me. I totally get that it's your opinion and you are entitled to it but I'm curious as to who you would put the title on. I noted this earlier Paige is a good option, but has been insanely mediocre in 2015. Emma is also better in the ring than Nikki, but was unable to get over and has rightfully been sent back to NXT to fix things. Naomi isn't very good. That's it for contenders to Nikki. Now we finally have girls worthy of taking the belt but they've just come up and the "Divas Revolution" hasn't exactly taken off. Outside of purely wanting Nikki to lose, why should any fan care about seeing Charlotte win? What has Charlotte done to make anyone like her on the main roster unless you really miss Ric Flair? There weren't really any options in 2015. Honestly, Paige has always been insanely mediocre for me personally. Emma's character wasn't good. Naomi isn't good. Natalya? She could have got her just due and she can definitely wrestle. Natalya could have peaked my interest in the Divas division long enough for some of the NXT women to be called up. But even the way the whole divas revolution is booked has just been boring and lazy to me. You have 3 Teams of 3 Divas each. Why? Why can't they just be their own women? Why does Sasha Banks have to team up with Naomi, Is it because they are both Black? Last time I checked they don't have any wrestling history. Why is Alicia Fox just thrown in there? Just to have the corny team formations? It's just been stupid to me. But I think Charlotte was ready after she lost to Sasha and could have been called up then. She could have been HUGE if she was used right in my opinion. But I see what you mean. That doesn't mean Nikki Bella has to hold the title for a record breaking amount of time. There are other options.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 22:11:24 GMT -5
I thought Nikki vs Charlotte was a damn good match and I cannot wait to see them face off Again at NOC.
And also this Naomi isn't good at all thing is a lie because she improved and has been on her A game since the revolution she deserves a title run.
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Post by Booger Red on Sept 15, 2015 22:12:46 GMT -5
Weeks ago, my reaction to this happening was this: Now, my reaction to it happening was this: We all knew this was inevitable and I'm quite not happy about it. The Bellas are probably the biggest act that I intensely dislike. It's not the kind of heat that heels are supposed to get, it's the "Please, Go Away forever" heat.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 15, 2015 22:13:12 GMT -5
I thought Nikki vs Charlotte was a damn good match and I cannot wait to see them face off Again at NOC. And also this Naomi isn't good at all thing is a lie because she improved and has been on her A game since the revolution she deserves a title run. It's not a lie, it's what I see. Granted, she's been better since Sasha has joined her, but she still isn't really good in my eyes. We see things differently.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Sept 15, 2015 22:17:32 GMT -5
Got bored so yeah, I found this:
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Sept 15, 2015 22:19:24 GMT -5
This is like Dean Ambrose's US Title reign all over again.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 22:20:50 GMT -5
I thought Nikki vs Charlotte was a damn good match and I cannot wait to see them face off Again at NOC. And also this Naomi isn't good at all thing is a lie because she improved and has been on her A game since the revolution she deserves a title run. It's not a lie, it's what I see. Granted, she's been better since Sasha has joined her, but she still isn't really good in my eyes. We see things differently. I honestly don't know what you expect her to do for you to see shes good she's not wrestling like a takeover match but still has shown a good showing and could make a good champion.Every match Naomi has been in was good regardless if sasha was in it or not Re watch her matches especially the one againts Charlotte on Smackdown a few weeks ago she has it.
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Post by Nivro™ on Sept 15, 2015 22:22:42 GMT -5
Like I said before, seeing as how they unified the Diva's title with the Womens title...You have to look at the linage of both and thus, Nikki aint crap....Doesnt matter either way someone like Charlotte, Becky or Sasha will end up breaking it eventually.
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Post by Angel Beast on Sept 15, 2015 22:29:57 GMT -5
Maybe if she had actually defended her title more often I'd care. Brock Lesnar defended the WWE World Heavyweight Championship more than Nikki defended the Divas. Hell I think Rock had more title defenses in his short ass reign.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 15, 2015 22:33:32 GMT -5
It's not a lie, it's what I see. Granted, she's been better since Sasha has joined her, but she still isn't really good in my eyes. We see things differently. I honestly don't know what you expect her to do for you to see shes good she's not wrestling like a takeover match but still has shown a good showing and could make a good champion.Every match Naomi has been in was good regardless if sasha was in it or not Re watch her matches especially the one againts Charlotte on Smackdown a few weeks ago she has it. I've seen every Naomi match this year outside of ones on Superstars. I wouldn't consider any of them good until a tag with Sasha. I expect her to entertain me and put on good matches. In my eyes, she hasn't done that. Her best match was against AJ Lee in NXT season three. That was her peak to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 22:35:09 GMT -5
Naomi had a good match?
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Post by King Silva on Sept 15, 2015 22:58:33 GMT -5
I am sad AJ's record was broken and I honestly feel that WWE's dislike for AJ/Punk played a part in Nikki getting this record.
Nikki's reign is so damn boring it really should have been cut short by now especially considering people like Naomi, Paige, and Natalya had pinned/submitted her during this time. I would have preferred Naomi or Natalya to end it but it wasn't to be.. So yeah we've had to suffer the last 4 or so months where up til last night she either only defended against Paige (once was Paige/Tina..) or not at all..
So Nikki may have the record but only for now because I think Charlotte/Sasha/Paige could very well beat it in the years to come.
BTW if WWE thinks they are cute by taking AJ's record they need to realize that atm she still has one for sure and is sharing another..
AJ is number one when you look at the combined days women have been Divas Champion.
She is at 406 days over 3 reigns and the next person is Nikki with 303+ days over 2 reigns.
So unless Nikki keeps the belt for another 103 days (Lord help us if she does) AJ's record there will still stand.
Of course Nikki could lose the belt and then get it back to start a third reign and again try and catch AJ's record 406 days overall with it but I think this is her last reign because people like Sasha, Charlotte, and Becky are going to have it for a while.
The other record AJ has is the record for most Divas Title reigns with 3 although this one is shared with Eve Torres.
Like I said Nikki could tie this one if she wins it again but I think if anyone is going to tie it it will be Paige since there is no way she doesn't end her career like a 5x Divas Champion (if not more).
So yeah 5 years from now Nikki and AJ likely won't have any records they will just be the past. Women like Paige, Charlotte, and Sasha will be the present.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 22:59:38 GMT -5
I honestly don't know what you expect her to do for you to see shes good she's not wrestling like a takeover match but still has shown a good showing and could make a good champion.Every match Naomi has been in was good regardless if sasha was in it or not Re watch her matches especially the one againts Charlotte on Smackdown a few weeks ago she has it. I've seen every Naomi match this year outside of ones on Superstars. I wouldn't consider any of them good until a tag with Sasha. I expect her to entertain me and put on good matches. In my eyes, she hasn't done that. Her best match was against AJ Lee in NXT season three. That was her peak to be honest. Fine if thats how you feel about Naomi then It is what it is. But I know Naomi will get her moment to become divas champion because she rightfully so deserves it she's been working hard for years she Brings Something to the table.Theres so much untap potential that Naomi could do as divas champion.Shes been overlooked and Everytime its finally her moment it always goes to someone else its just not right.Naomi has it I know she does I want her to win and be recognized for her talent.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 15, 2015 23:00:42 GMT -5
I've seen every Naomi match this year outside of ones on Superstars. I wouldn't consider any of them good until a tag with Sasha. I expect her to entertain me and put on good matches. In my eyes, she hasn't done that. Her best match was against AJ Lee in NXT season three. That was her peak to be honest. Fine if thats how you feel about Naomi then It is what it is. But I know Naomi will get her moment to become divas champion because she rightfully so deserves it she's been working hard for years she Brings Something to the table.Theres so much untap potential that Naomi could do as divas champion.Shes been overlooked and Everytime its finally her moment it always goes to someone else its just not right.Naomi has it I know she does I want her to win and be recognized for her talent. I disagree completely
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Post by MADNESS_NH_97 on Sept 16, 2015 0:53:59 GMT -5
Whatever happened to Natalya? She hit 30, so she's "over the hill"... I used to really enjoy her in-ring work, but it's been ages since I could take her seriously. Well then The Bellas and Tamina need to be "over the hill" as well. Nattie is 33 The Bellas are 31 and Tamina is 37
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