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Post by Halloween King on Jan 27, 2016 11:47:18 GMT -5
I woke up this morning and im scrolling through my news feed. I see an article about Raw, and the Rock. I guess some fans went to Raw dressed as different wwf wrestlers. According to the article wwe producers told wrestlers not to acknowledge the fans who were "cosplaying" I also read that wwe moved the fans from their seats to another section so that they wouldnt be visible on television......... GOD FORBID people have fun at a wwe event.
So I guess the Rock went over to talk to the fans, I clicked on the link to watch the vid and low and behold wwe has taken the vid down from youtube.
I mean, really? How petty are you? People paid to go see your show, they paid to get your merchandise so that they could emulate your wrestlers and in exchange you make it seem like it never happened?
I just fail to see where the harm is in people enjoying your product. And this is why I feel wwe has less and less fans.
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Post by J12 on Jan 27, 2016 11:57:34 GMT -5
It's been reported that they were quite a nuisance when they were on the hard camera side, so they were moved. Really, there's nothing wrong with that.
Secondly, it was probably removed because one of the guys was dressed as Hulk Hogan, and WWE wants nothing to do with him, and rightfully so.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 12:01:53 GMT -5
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Post by Halloween King on Jan 27, 2016 12:04:24 GMT -5
It's been reported that they were quite a nuisance when they were on the hard camera side, so they were moved. Really, there's nothing wrong with that. Secondly, it was probably removed because one of the guys was dressed as Hulk Hogan, and WWE wants nothing to do with him, and rightfully so. Hulk Hogan is a character, lets not judge a character based on what the person who portrays the character said in a private conversation.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jan 27, 2016 12:19:39 GMT -5
It's been reported that they were quite a nuisance when they were on the hard camera side, so they were moved. Really, there's nothing wrong with that. Secondly, it was probably removed because one of the guys was dressed as Hulk Hogan, and WWE wants nothing to do with him, and rightfully so. Hulk Hogan is a character, lets not judge a character based on what the person who portrays the character said in a private conversation. "Thank you brother, only love, HH"
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 27, 2016 12:21:36 GMT -5
I was there, the fan was trying to upstage the show. Security went over to him 3 times before they moved him and his buddies from one side to the other. Bray Wyatt also yelled at him because he was hijacking the audience during the match between Kane and Bray.
The fans got behind the guy, so in that regard I don't necessarily put it on the guy for appeasing the audience, but people were there to see WWE. Not some dipsh*t and his drunk buddies dressed in wrestler costumes. The guy stood on his chair and posed as Macho Man at one point while a match was going, and this was after security had been over to him twice. He was in the front row too and all of that was making it onto TV.
You view it however you want. I think the guy was being an assh*le, even if it was funny.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 12:30:35 GMT -5
I thought the guy wearing the WCW Hulkster shirt was pretty cool. Reminded me of the Hogan fan who sat at all the early Nitros.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jan 27, 2016 12:32:59 GMT -5
It's been reported that they were quite a nuisance when they were on the hard camera side, so they were moved. Really, there's nothing wrong with that. Secondly, it was probably removed because one of the guys was dressed as Hulk Hogan, and WWE wants nothing to do with him, and rightfully so. Hulk Hogan is a character, lets not judge a character based on what the person who portrays the character said in a private conversation. Hate to open up a can of worms but Chris Benoit was a character. Let's not judge a character based on what the person did in the privacy of his own home... Extreme example and the thread will probably get locked because of it but you can't really pick and choose who to separate the character from and who not to.
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Post by Halloween King on Jan 27, 2016 12:35:02 GMT -5
I was there, the fan was trying to upstage the show. Security went over to him 3 times before they moved him and his buddies from one side to the other. Bray Wyatt also yelled at him because he was hijacking the audience during the match between Kane and Bray. The fans got behind the guy, so in that regard I don't necessarily put it on the guy for appeasing the audience, but people were there to see WWE. Not some dipsh*t and his drunk buddies dressed in wrestler costumes. The guy stood on his chair and posed as Macho Man at one point while a match was going, and this was after security had been over to him twice. He was in the front row too and all of that was making it onto TV. You view it however you want. I think the guy was being an assh*le, even if it was funny. If it was really an issue they would have kicked them out of the arena, not moved them over to another section. Or so I would think.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 27, 2016 12:35:30 GMT -5
It's been reported that they were quite a nuisance when they were on the hard camera side, so they were moved. Really, there's nothing wrong with that. Secondly, it was probably removed because one of the guys was dressed as Hulk Hogan, and WWE wants nothing to do with him, and rightfully so.This pretty much hits the nail on the head. Add in the reports that the fans were being difficult and this makes sense. WWE can be very petty, very often. I don't think this is the case here.
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Post by Halloween King on Jan 27, 2016 12:43:09 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan is a character, lets not judge a character based on what the person who portrays the character said in a private conversation. Hate to open up a can of worms but Chris Benoit was a character. Let's not judge a character based on what the person did in the privacy of his own home... Extreme example and the thread will probably get locked because of it but you can't really pick and choose who to separate the character from and who not to. Yes Chris was a character on television, and yes in his private life he did some insane things. BUT lets not start comparing private CONVERSATIONS to MURDER. There is a huge difference there.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 27, 2016 12:43:12 GMT -5
I was there, the fan was trying to upstage the show. Security went over to him 3 times before they moved him and his buddies from one side to the other. Bray Wyatt also yelled at him because he was hijacking the audience during the match between Kane and Bray. The fans got behind the guy, so in that regard I don't necessarily put it on the guy for appeasing the audience, but people were there to see WWE. Not some dipsh*t and his drunk buddies dressed in wrestler costumes. The guy stood on his chair and posed as Macho Man at one point while a match was going, and this was after security had been over to him twice. He was in the front row too and all of that was making it onto TV. You view it however you want. I think the guy was being an assh*le, even if it was funny. If it was really an issue they would have kicked them out of the arena, not moved them over to another section. Or so I would think. They removed them from the arena floor, the audience went nuts and booed at security. They were gone for about 5-10 minutes, and then security brought them back in on the other side so they could finish the show. The Macho Man guy didn't do any posturing after that. My assumption, security told him if he did it again, they were getting rid of him. So by all accounts, WWE gave him every opportunity to be cool and finish the show he paid to see and he obliged. WWE didn't do anything wrong. They went above and beyond to humor the audience and the guy from what I saw.
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Post by Halloween King on Jan 27, 2016 12:48:29 GMT -5
It's been reported that they were quite a nuisance when they were on the hard camera side, so they were moved. Really, there's nothing wrong with that. Secondly, it was probably removed because one of the guys was dressed as Hulk Hogan, and WWE wants nothing to do with him, and rightfully so.This pretty much hits the nail on the head. Add in the reports that the fans were being difficult and this makes sense. WWE can be very petty, very often. I don't think this is the case here. It could be the case that they didnt want Hulk mentioned on the show..... But if that where true the cameras would not have followed the Rock, they would have killed his mic, they would have cut to commercial. Have you ever seen when a fan jumps past the barricade? They usually cut away from the fan as soon as possible. So with that in mind I have to believe that if wwe really didnt want something on screen that they'd cut away from that ASAP. And again, if you go to any event and you act up they will kick you out not ask you to move seats. I've been to events where security came and kicked out everyone who was around an altercation not just the ones involved. So I would think those fans did nothing to merit being kicked out. I could be wrong though I wasnt there. I wonder if those fans are on these boards.
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Post by Halloween King on Jan 27, 2016 12:51:29 GMT -5
If it was really an issue they would have kicked them out of the arena, not moved them over to another section. Or so I would think. They removed them from the arena floor, the audience went nuts and booed at security. They were gone for about 5-10 minutes, and then security brought them back in on the other side so they could finish the show. The Macho Man guy didn't do any posturing after that. My assumption, security told him if he did it again, they were getting rid of him. So by all accounts, WWE gave him every opportunity to be cool and finish the show he paid to see and he obliged. WWE didn't do anything wrong. They went above and beyond to humor the audience and the guy from what I saw. So it was like that scene in the Simpsons, where they took Homer around back and beat on him some? Only in this case they brought them back. Is this, the bold section, the reason why The Rock said he saved the best for last?
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Jan 27, 2016 12:54:04 GMT -5
Hate to open up a can of worms but Chris Benoit was a character. Let's not judge a character based on what the person did in the privacy of his own home... Extreme example and the thread will probably get locked because of it but you can't really pick and choose who to separate the character from and who not to. Yes Chris was a character on television, and yes in his private life he did some insane things. BUT lets not start comparing private CONVERSATIONS to MURDER. There is a huge difference there. I wasn't about to compare the two in scope but it's the best example I could think of to support my argument against "let's separate the character from the person" by no means do I mean to put them anywhere close to the same level, just for clarification
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 13:45:19 GMT -5
Maybe because these people go with the intention to get as much attention as they can on themselves, trying to take away from the show. And they never look like the people they are cosplaying as. The type of people that chant "we are awesome." You aren't guys. Just enjoy the show and stop trying to make yourself part of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 13:51:23 GMT -5
How did this turn into a Chris Benoit thread.. lol.
Anyway, I loathe the new day so I missed most of that segment. I went back and watched it because of all the fuss about it, and while I don't see the big deal with what the rock did(because he does what he wants anyway usually), I get that these guys were likely problems for the security and likely deserved to be moved. Surely they can't expect not to get in trouble by trying to make a show about them instead of the people they paid to see.
Granted they probably had a blast, I'm sure they're still complaining about WWE moving them. Which in reality is stupid because they likely purchased those tickets with intent of trying to get themselves over. Instead of actually watching the show.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jan 27, 2016 13:55:15 GMT -5
They removed them from the arena floor, the audience went nuts and booed at security. They were gone for about 5-10 minutes, and then security brought them back in on the other side so they could finish the show. The Macho Man guy didn't do any posturing after that. My assumption, security told him if he did it again, they were getting rid of him. So by all accounts, WWE gave him every opportunity to be cool and finish the show he paid to see and he obliged. WWE didn't do anything wrong. They went above and beyond to humor the audience and the guy from what I saw. So it was like that scene in the Simpsons, where they took Homer around back and beat on him some? Only in this case they brought them back. Is this, the bold section, the reason why The Rock said he saved the best for last? Yeah people were chanting for the Macho Man guy, even during the Rock's segment. So Rock kind of got the gist of what was going on from what I gathered. Maybe he was aware of some of what went on even before going out there, I don't really know.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 14:04:53 GMT -5
WWE is too petty, they seriously need to understand it's the fans that are the reason the company is still going.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Jan 27, 2016 14:22:24 GMT -5
I'm all for dressing up and having fun. No need to be kicked out for that.
But, when you are a dick about it and being annoying on camera...
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