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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 13, 2016 6:48:03 GMT -5
That show looked so much nicer than the standard, over produced Raw and Smackdown.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 6:50:20 GMT -5
Ambrose is gonna be inserted into the title match and Bray will end up facing Brock
If not then last night was pointless
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Mar 13, 2016 7:01:34 GMT -5
Is it safe to enter this thread? Has everyone who needed to cry, cried everthing they had to? If you thought Dean was winning you were only fooling yourself. Dean is so over that people didn't care for the match and were chanting "CM Punk". His momentum will be stopped dead, and Roman is going to still get booed out of every building he is in. Roman is not booed out every building he's in. So your argument is invalid. Quality matches, but I'm dreading seeing Roman Reigns win the title again. Why can't WWE get it through their heads that nobody likes him? What they want Roman Reigns to be, Dean Ambrose already is. I like him. So your argument is invalid. Reigns vs Triple H is going to suck. Like Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar was going to suck? Nice. MOTY contender in coming. Roman vs HHH won't top that. this company. Only complaint. Great show. Reigns/HHH will not top this match. Not even close. T here is absolutely no possible way Reigns/HHH can top that. No possible way.
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Post by alexgg on Mar 13, 2016 7:40:11 GMT -5
Roadblock was much better than Fastlane, I enjoyed it.
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Post by tiny04 on Mar 13, 2016 7:51:07 GMT -5
Is it safe to enter this thread? Has everyone who needed to cry, cried everthing they had to? If you thought Dean was winning you were only fooling yourself. Dean is so over that people didn't care for the match and were chanting "CM Punk". His momentum will be stopped dead, and Roman is going to still get booed out of every building he is in. Roman is not booed out every building he's in. So your argument is invalid. Quality matches, but I'm dreading seeing Roman Reigns win the title again. Why can't WWE get it through their heads that nobody likes him? What they want Roman Reigns to be, Dean Ambrose already is. I like him. So your argument is invalid. Reigns vs Triple H is going to suck. Like Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar was going to suck? Nice. MOTY contender in coming. Roman vs HHH won't top that. this company. Only complaint. Great show. Reigns/HHH will not top this match. Not even close. T here is absolutely no possible way Reigns/HHH can top that. No possible way. You like Reigns. We get it. A lot of people on here don't like him and are merely stating their opinions. A lot of which I think are valid opinions. Accept that.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 13, 2016 8:14:01 GMT -5
Why am I seeing complaints about Dean going down to one pedigree? It's called a finisher, therefore it should finish the match. Triple H didn't kick out of Dirty Deeds, he just got lucky. People complain when there's too many finisher kick outs, then complain when a guy loses to one finisher. The problem is when we've seen guys kick out of multiple finishers in most matches for the past 10 years (look at Cena/Owens for the most recent examples). It kills the idea that Dean is the new "Mick Foley" who can't be kept down like the WWE wants us to think he is, I'm with yah that one finishers should end a match but when Dean is the only guy in main events loosing to one finisher it kills his credibility.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 13, 2016 8:17:01 GMT -5
Is it safe to enter this thread? Has everyone who needed to cry, cried everthing they had to? If you thought Dean was winning you were only fooling yourself. Dean is so over that people didn't care for the match and were chanting "CM Punk". His momentum will be stopped dead, and Roman is going to still get booed out of every building he is in. Roman is not booed out every building he's in. So your argument is invalid. Quality matches, but I'm dreading seeing Roman Reigns win the title again. Why can't WWE get it through their heads that nobody likes him? What they want Roman Reigns to be, Dean Ambrose already is. I like him. So your argument is invalid. Reigns vs Triple H is going to suck. Like Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar was going to suck? Nice. MOTY contender in coming. Roman vs HHH won't top that. this company. Only complaint. Great show. Reigns/HHH will not top this match. Not even close. T here is absolutely no possible way Reigns/HHH can top that. No possible way. Prove me wrong mr. Know-it-all. They had to take him off TV for weeks during the biggest build of the year because they know the reaction he's going to get. Tell us of another so called star who this happened to, or are you just going to say "invalid" without backing it up the last time...
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Post by Angel Beast on Mar 13, 2016 8:29:31 GMT -5
Disappointed neither of the tag titles changed hands, would have made the event a little more special.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Mar 13, 2016 8:48:52 GMT -5
You like Reigns. We get it. A lot of people on here don't like him and are merely stating their opinions. A lot of which I think are valid opinions. Accept that. This is not about me liking and some disliking. This is about calling out some people on their bs. Roman is universally not liked. False. Roman is booed out of the building in every arena. False Roman Reigns vs Triple H is goint to suck. Won't top the Roadblock match. How do you know? Match hasn't happened. Roman Reigns vs Daniel Bryan was going to suck because Roman couldn't wrestle. It turned out great(MOTN). Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar was going to suck and be the worst WrestleMania main event ever. It turned out great(MOTN). Roman Reigns vs Big was going to suck. It turned out great(MOTN). Some people claim WWE will never learn... It seems like some of you will never learn as well. Prove me wrong mr. Know-it-all. They had to take him off TV for weeks during the biggest build of the year because they know the reaction he's going to get. Tell us of another so called star who this happened to, or are you just going to say "invalid" without backing it up the last time... Do you even know what "booed out of the building" means? Let me answer that for you. No you don't no. Roman was booed out of the building basically just on Royal Rumble 2015, WrestleMania 31, Royal Rumble 2016. Basically everywhere else he either got cheered or mixed reactions. Your argument IS invalid and false. Also, am I talking to Vince? No? Right. Just a keyboard warrior who thinks HE is Mr. Know-it-all ( ). So you say they took him off television because of the reactions? Do YOU have anything to prove that? Again, let me answer that for you. No you don't have. Just pure speculation and rumors. That's all you got.
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Mar 13, 2016 8:51:41 GMT -5
So its ok to get mixed reactions at house shows, but "booed out of the building" on two of the biggest stages of the year?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 13, 2016 9:05:05 GMT -5
WWE Roadblock March 12th, 2016 | Ricoh Coliseum in Toronto, Canada
WWE Tag Team Championship: The New Day (c) def. The League of Nations in 9:49 The show began with the New Day defending their Titles. Since they're New Day, they were given the time to cut a promo and introduced an actual box of Booty-O's. It was pretty hilarious. They faced King Barrett and Sheamus. It was interesting to see New Day keep the same gimmick but work as faces. It came off perfectly and the teams managed to put on a very solid match. Well, they were faces outside of the distraction that Xavier Woods caused in the end. I liked that the crowd was excited for this, even though most of the build was done off of television. Big E hit Barrett with the Big Ending to retain their Tag Team Titles. Fine opening contest. ***¼ Chris Jericho def. Jack Swagger in 7:54 After a video package recapping the Chris Jericho/AJ Styles rivalry, Jericho came out and badmouthed Styles, Canada and Toronto. He called Styles a "flash in the pan", which reminded him of Jack Swagger, who beat him for the World Title in 2010. It led into a match between Jericho and Swagger. Unless you watch Main Event and Superstars weekly, you haven't seen Swagger in a long time. They worked a solid match that featured some close calls and counter wrestling.To survive the ankle lock. Jericho grabbed the referee's leg and pulled himself to the ropes. He does those little things to help solidify himself as a heel and it's great. Jericho then made Swagger tap out to the Walls. This was a pretty good match where the right guy won and Swagger looked better than he has in months. **¾
NXT Tag Team Championship: The Revival (c) def. Enzo Amore and Colin Cassady w/ Carmella in 10:17 A video package aired to help promote the current NXT Tag Team Champions, the Revival. That was smart since they aren't the most known tandem. However, Enzo Amore and Colin Cassady, the challengers, were insanely over. So much for only being popular with the NXT audience. These two teams faced off at TakeOver: London in a match that was much better than expected. We got more of the same here. Though I expected the Revival to win, I bought into the false finishes for Enzo and Cass. Alas, the Revival retained as Enzo and Cass continued to come up short in title matches. Still, this was possibly even better than their TakeOver match and worked as a great showcase for NXT on this big show. The tag division in NXT continue to shine and be vastly improved. ***½
WWE Divas Championship: Charlotte (c) w/ Ric Flair def. Natalya in 13:37 Charlotte was supposed to face Natalya in a non-title match. A promo from earlier in the day though, saw Natalya goad Charlotte into putting the title on the line. Both girls are good in the ring but their characters are basically "our dads used to be wrestlers". Literally. Find me another aspect to their gimmicks. Anyway, the match turned out to be very good but not quite on the level of their TakeOver match two years ago. They were given the most time outside of the main event and mostly made it work. The finish was dumb though. Natalya had Charlotte in the Sharpshooter and Charlotte reached to grab Ric. Nattie pulled her to the middle of the ring but let go to argue with Ric. Charlotte rolled her up and retained with her feet on the ropes. Fine match, but really stupid ending that made Natalya look like a buffoon. ***¼
Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman def. Bray Wyat and Luke Harper in 4:03 Originally, we were set to see Brock Lesnar vs. Bray Wyatt but it became a handicap match. They never explained why it was changed but we ended up basically getting Brock vs. Luke Harper. Bray Wyatt stayed outside of the ring and watched as Brock suplexed Harper around the ring. It was a fun little interaction between Harper and Lesnar but I'm not sure where it's going. Are they saving Bray/Brock for something? It can't be for WrestleMania can it? Anyway, Brock won in just over four minutes. I wish Harper got a lengthier outing against Brock since he's the best member of the Wyatt Family but what we got was alright. **½
Sami Zayn def. Stardust in 12:33 Next up, home country boy Sami Zayn made his WWE live special debut. He took on Stardust in a match featuring two of my five favorite wrestlers on the planet right now. Unfortunately, something happened to this crowd that killed a lot of this match. They chanted for "CM Punk" among other things. It was a damn shame considering the talent involved. The contest itself was pretty good but man, that crowd sucked. Zayn won with the Helluva Kick. I'd like to see them have a better match somewhere down the line. **½
WWE Championship: Triple H (c) def. Dean Ambrose in 24:43 The main event was next and the crowd was back to being alright during the course of it. They were surprisingly split in the early goings but Dean Ambrose turned him pretty much fully towards him as the match went on. While I thought their early back and forth was good, it didn't quite fit in with the brawling nature of this program. Ambrose targeted the leg and commentary even brought up his quad injury. Bravo. Dean hit Dirty Deeds and seemed to win but his foot was under the bottom rope. The fans ate this entire thing up. He then made a crucial mistake because he's a madman. He missed an elbow through the announce table and, though he beat the countout, ate a Pedigree and lost. It was a great battle that played the fans like a fiddle. Poor Dean Ambrose has quickly become the Hirooki Goto of the WWE. ****
Overall: 7/10. The first thing I want to commend is the look and feel of the show. Too many WWE shows feel like a copy of a copy but this was different, like the other live Network specials and that's great. The show itself was good too. Nothing on it was what I would consider bad at all. We got two really strong tag team matches, a really good Divas Title match and a great main event.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 13, 2016 9:08:58 GMT -5
I'm not gonna guarantee Reigns/HHH won't be as good as Dean/HHH because I have no way of knowing. I'm also not going to pick apart everyone's post and try to validate my feelings.
What I do know is that I have been way more entertained by everything Dean and HHH did than I was for everything Roman and HHH have done. The same goes for Dean/Brock vs. Roman/Brock last year. I hope the match turns out good but the program and build for it has been pitiful.
Also, just a thought, but doesn't the idea of Dean winning the big win (after months of coming oh so close) for the first time at Mania sound better than Reigns winning it for the third time in five months at Mania?
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Post by tiny04 on Mar 13, 2016 9:18:07 GMT -5
You like Reigns. We get it. A lot of people on here don't like him and are merely stating their opinions. A lot of which I think are valid opinions. Accept that. This is not about me liking and some disliking. This is about calling out some people on their bs. Roman is universally not liked. False. Roman is booed out of the building in every arena. False Roman Reigns vs Triple H is goint to suck. Won't top the Roadblock match. How do you know? Match hasn't happened. Roman Reigns vs Daniel Bryan was going to suck because Roman couldn't wrestle. It turned out great(MOTN). Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar was going to suck and be the worst WrestleMania main event ever. It turned out great(MOTN). Roman Reigns vs Big was going to suck. It turned out great(MOTN). Some people claim WWE will never learn... It seems like some of you will never learn as well. Prove me wrong mr. Know-it-all. They had to take him off TV for weeks during the biggest build of the year because they know the reaction he's going to get. Tell us of another so called star who this happened to, or are you just going to say "invalid" without backing it up the last time... Do you even know what "booed out of the building" means? Let me answer that for you. No you don't no. Roman was booed out of the building basically just on Royal Rumble 2015, WrestleMania 31, Royal Rumble 2016. Basically everywhere else he either got cheered or mixed reactions. Your argument IS invalid and false. Also, am I talking to Vince? No? Right. Just a keyboard warrior who thinks HE is Mr. Know-it-all ( ). So you say they took him off television because of the reactions? Do YOU have anything to prove that? Again, let me answer that for you. No you don't have. Just pure speculation and rumors. That's all you got. I agree that Roman is not universally disliked. But for a guy who is meant to be top babyface, there are FAR too many people that dislike him. He may not get booed out of every building he is in, but he gets booed on the big stages when it matters. That's not a good thing. I'm not knocking you for liking Roman. I just don't agree with you calling other people's opinions "bs". No, it is our opinion, which we are more than entitled to have, like you are entitled to yours. As a match, I don't think Roman vs HHH is going to suck. I think it'll probably be a solid match. I just don't care about it. I imagine that's how many people on here feel. Same with Roman vs Brock. Beforehand, few people could care less about it. Turned out awesome because Brock mauled him and Rollins cashed in. I don't think a lot of people expected Reigns vs Bryan to suck. It was always going to be a good match because it involved Bryan, and you may not like my opinion, but I will always say that match was all Bryan. Bryan made that match what it was. Reigns vs Show was good. I think people overrate it just because of how much we expected it to suck. New Day vs Kidd/Cesaro on that show was better. Leave people to have their own opinions instead of calling their opinions "bs". Fine if you don't agree, but don't insult people's opinions.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Mar 13, 2016 9:32:31 GMT -5
I agree that Roman is not universally disliked. But for a guy who is meant to be top babyface, there are FAR too many people that dislike him. He may not get booed out of every building he is in, but he gets booed on the big stages when it matters. That's not a good thing. I'm not knocking you for liking Roman. I just don't agree with you calling other people's opinions "bs". No, it is our opinion, which we are more than entitled to have, like you are entitled to yours. As a match, I don't think Roman vs HHH is going to suck. I think it'll probably be a solid match. I just don't care about it. I imagine that's how many people on here feel. Same with Roman vs Brock. Beforehand, few people could care less about it. Turned out awesome because Brock mauled him and Rollins cashed in. I don't think a lot of people expected Reigns vs Bryan to suck. It was always going to be a good match because it involved Bryan, and you may not like my opinion, but I will always say that match was all Bryan. Bryan made that match what it was. Reigns vs Show was good. I think people overrate it just because of how much we expected it to suck. New Day vs Kidd/Cesaro on that show was better. Leave people to have their own opinions instead of calling their opinions "bs". Fine if you don't agree, but don't insult people's opinions. The thing is, I'm not calling other people's opinions bs. I'm calling people's bs, bs. Claiming that no one likes Roman Reigns is not an opinion. It's straight up bs. Claiming Roman Reigns is going to continue being booed out of the building in every arena(when he hasn't even been booed out of the building in every arena) is not an opinion. It's straight up bs. Claiming the match is going to suck is not an opinion. It's speculation.
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Post by TurboEddie on Mar 13, 2016 10:26:04 GMT -5
I agree that Roman is not universally disliked. But for a guy who is meant to be top babyface, there are FAR too many people that dislike him. He may not get booed out of every building he is in, but he gets booed on the big stages when it matters. That's not a good thing. I'm not knocking you for liking Roman. I just don't agree with you calling other people's opinions "bs". No, it is our opinion, which we are more than entitled to have, like you are entitled to yours. As a match, I don't think Roman vs HHH is going to suck. I think it'll probably be a solid match. I just don't care about it. I imagine that's how many people on here feel. Same with Roman vs Brock. Beforehand, few people could care less about it. Turned out awesome because Brock mauled him and Rollins cashed in. I don't think a lot of people expected Reigns vs Bryan to suck. It was always going to be a good match because it involved Bryan, and you may not like my opinion, but I will always say that match was all Bryan. Bryan made that match what it was. Reigns vs Show was good. I think people overrate it just because of how much we expected it to suck. New Day vs Kidd/Cesaro on that show was better. Leave people to have their own opinions instead of calling their opinions "bs". Fine if you don't agree, but don't insult people's opinions. The thing is, I'm not calling other people's opinions bs. I'm calling people's bs, bs. Claiming that no one likes Roman Reigns is not an opinion. It's straight up bs. Claiming Roman Reigns is going to continue being booed out of the building in every arena(when he hasn't even been booed out of the building in every arena) is not an opinion. It's straight up bs. Claiming the match is going to suck is not an opinion. It's speculation. You take things too literally. When we say nobody likes Roman Reigns, we don't mean that exactly zero people like him.
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Post by attitudesback on Mar 13, 2016 10:46:17 GMT -5
The build for Ambrose vs HHH felt very much like Austin vs HBK.. "if Ambrose/Austin wins the title who knows what will happen!". It was awesome. Really good event, I obviously didn't think Ambrose would actually win (come on) but it was good. Looking forward to WrestleMania.
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Post by McBlake on Mar 13, 2016 11:05:44 GMT -5
I fell asleep during the Stardust match. Surprised I stayed up so late due to illness but my favourite part of the event was how much of a POS they made Bray look. That was brilliant. Both tag matches were good too. I don't care what anyone says, New Day are still fantastic.
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Post by cordless2016 on Mar 13, 2016 11:13:31 GMT -5
You like Reigns. We get it. A lot of people on here don't like him and are merely stating their opinions. A lot of which I think are valid opinions. Accept that. This is not about me liking and some disliking. This is about calling out some people on their bs. Roman is universally not liked. False. Roman is booed out of the building in every arena. False Roman Reigns vs Triple H is goint to suck. Won't top the Roadblock match. How do you know? Match hasn't happened. Roman Reigns vs Daniel Bryan was going to suck because Roman couldn't wrestle. It turned out great(MOTN). Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar was going to suck and be the worst WrestleMania main event ever. It turned out great(MOTN). Roman Reigns vs Big was going to suck. It turned out great(MOTN). Some people claim WWE will never learn... It seems like some of you will never learn as well. Prove me wrong mr. Know-it-all. They had to take him off TV for weeks during the biggest build of the year because they know the reaction he's going to get. Tell us of another so called star who this happened to, or are you just going to say "invalid" without backing it up the last time... Do you even know what "booed out of the building" means? Let me answer that for you. No you don't no. Roman was booed out of the building basically just on Royal Rumble 2015, WrestleMania 31, Royal Rumble 2016. Basically everywhere else he either got cheered or mixed reactions. Your argument IS invalid and false. Also, am I talking to Vince? No? Right. Just a keyboard warrior who thinks HE is Mr. Know-it-all ( ). So you say they took him off television because of the reactions? Do YOU have anything to prove that? Again, let me answer that for you. No you don't have. Just pure speculation and rumors. That's all you got. Tell us why else would they keep him off tv this long during the biggest build of the year? Cena worked with a growth on his elbow. Bryan worked with a screwed up neck. Roman had a minor surgery to fix a deviated septum and is gone for almost a month during the WM build. I get it, your either deaf and don't listen to the reactions on TV or are a Roman fan. That's cool. But to deny he has been getting worse reactions than the mixed ones Cena gets is turning a blind eye to the issue.
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Post by T R W on Mar 13, 2016 11:42:30 GMT -5
That show looked so much nicer than the standard, over produced Raw and Smackdown. I made the same comment to my friends. The camera work was better too. Personally i really enjoyed the show. The matches all got a long time which was refreshing and as a result they mostly told a great story in the ring. The attitude of there having to be a surprise or swerve or title change every ppv is awful and was what lead to some really bad times for the product. Predictably cab be a problem but last night it wasnt.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 11:48:23 GMT -5
That show looked so much nicer than the standard, over produced Raw and Smackdown. I made the same comment to my friends. The camera work was better too. Personally i really enjoyed the show. The matches all got a long time which was refreshing and as a result they mostly told a great story in the ring. The attitude of there having to be a surprise or swerve or title change every ppv is awful and was what lead to some really bad times for the product. Predictably cab be a problem but last night it wasnt. I too thought the show looked better. Less is more sometimes.
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