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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 17:42:13 GMT -5
As my namesake suggests, I'm a huge Preacher fan. The debut was amazing and I'm quite confident in the series going forward.
With that said, who's watched it and what did you think?
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Post by thespecialone on May 24, 2016 17:57:53 GMT -5
I havent but if it is half as good as the comic we have a top notch show here.
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Post by Self-Savior on May 24, 2016 20:11:25 GMT -5
I had it on DVR since I was watching ER on Sunday and I finally had a chance to watch it today. I really liked it...and I'll probably watch the encore next Sunday too.
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Post by King Richius on May 24, 2016 22:46:30 GMT -5
I'm a huge fan of Garth Ennis and Preacher in particular. I thought AMC nailed it with the premiere. It shot to the top of my must see TV list.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 17:09:48 GMT -5
I had it on DVR since I was watching ER on Sunday and I finally had a chance to watch it today. I really liked it...and I'll probably watch the encore next Sunday too. Is it bad that my first thought when you typed "ER" was "Jeez that show's been on for thirty million years at this point"
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Post by Self-Savior on May 25, 2016 17:39:09 GMT -5
I had it on DVR since I was watching ER on Sunday and I finally had a chance to watch it today. I really liked it...and I'll probably watch the encore next Sunday too. Is it bad that my first thought when you typed "ER" was "Jeez that show's been on for thirty million years at this point" Haha no its not bad at all.
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Post by punksnotdead on May 26, 2016 10:26:55 GMT -5
Preacher is one half of my favorite comic book series of all time, with the other being Sandman. Ennis is collectively my favorite comic book writer though. His run on Punisher is untouchable and Texas and the Spaceman is my single favorite comic book issue of all time.
I was tentatively excited for this and ended up quite enjoying the hell out of it. I'm not overly impressed with Tulip just yet, but Cassidy, despite the change in appearance, is spot-on in persona. I thought the airplane scene was super cheesy when it started and it turned me into a fan within a matter of minutes. The over the top gratuitous violence has been introduced early and that's a good thing. I don't want them pretending to be something they're not since the story deals with far less grounded concepts than something like Walking Dead.
I'm still a little uneasy with how they'll change the story. I mean Jesse already has the word of God and we didn't get any exploding churches yet. The story is so much bigger than "the people of Annville" and I don't want them to get too wrapped up in that singular location. Cooper struggled a little bit with the accent but overall he was pretty great. I absolutely loved the bar scene.
I don't mind getting the Quincannon story first either. They can tuck Jody and TC in their back pocket if they want because they're unbelievably awesome antagonists. Although we've already seen pieces of Jesse's childhood in the very first episode. I can see that whole arc really being held off until season 2 when we are far more invested in Tulip. I'm patiently waiting for The Saint, since we've seen Deblanc and Fiore, and the Duke. I think Elvis in True Romance is one of the best movie elements ever done and I really want to see that paralleled between The Duke and Jesse on this show.
So far, so good imo. I think the episode was better than I thought it would be. I wish they would stop showing Rogen so much though. I get that he's a huge fan and making so much of this happen but we're not to the point where we take the show seriously enough to over look not taking him seriously. I'm all in on this regardless, but I'm glad what we got out of the first episode was good. The 2016 elements didn't feel out of place either. I think that will be a huge part of the storytelling is making the older environments of the comic feel modern. As an 80s baby though, a big part of me really wanted to see them set this in the 90s. I get why they didn't but it would have been incredible.
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Post by punksnotdead on May 27, 2016 14:02:27 GMT -5
A Preacher. No, I'm not kidding. Here is the overall premise. But the show didn't really explain any of this in the first episode. So proceed at your own risk: Jesse Custer is a Preacher who becomes "possessed" (sort of) by the love child of an angel and a demon. The being is called Genesis and it allows him to have the word of God. Meaning people literally have to do exactly what he says when he enforces his will. In the mean time, Jesse, along with his on-again, off-again, girlfriend Tulip, and his new best friend Cassidy, who is a vampire, discover that God has abandoned his post in Heaven. So Jesse being a guy with a good moral compass, goes looking for God to get him to return to his job. All of this while being both pursued and confronted by a variety of foes, both human and otherwise. I'm not sure how much the show will change details from the comics, but that's the overall gist.
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Post by King Richius on May 27, 2016 14:20:20 GMT -5
A Preacher. No, I'm not kidding. Here is the overall premise. But the show didn't really explain any of this in the first episode. So proceed at your own risk: Jesse Custer is a Preacher who becomes "possessed" (sort of) by the love child of an angel and a demon. The being is called Genesis and it allows him to have the word of God. Meaning people literally have to do exactly what he says when he enforces his will. In the mean time, Jesse, along with his on-again, off-again, girlfriend Tulip, and his new best friend Cassidy, who is a vampire, discover that God has abandoned his post in Heaven. So Jesse being a guy with a good moral compass, goes looking for God to get him to return to his job. All of this while being both pursued and confronted by a variety of foes, both human and otherwise. I'm not sure how much the show will change details from the comics, but that's the overall gist. I'm betting they won't have the part where Jesse uses the word of God to tell the sheriff to go *beep* himself...which is a damn shame.
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Post by Word™ on May 27, 2016 14:59:23 GMT -5
I thought they had alot going on in the first episode, a little too much.. But I understand they have to set up the story.. It just was going from A to B to C to D really quick.
And being familiar with the comics but not knowing much, I don't yet know what's happening.
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Post by punksnotdead on May 27, 2016 15:29:32 GMT -5
A Preacher. No, I'm not kidding. Here is the overall premise. But the show didn't really explain any of this in the first episode. So proceed at your own risk: Jesse Custer is a Preacher who becomes "possessed" (sort of) by the love child of an angel and a demon. The being is called Genesis and it allows him to have the word of God. Meaning people literally have to do exactly what he says when he enforces his will. In the mean time, Jesse, along with his on-again, off-again, girlfriend Tulip, and his new best friend Cassidy, who is a vampire, discover that God has abandoned his post in Heaven. So Jesse being a guy with a good moral compass, goes looking for God to get him to return to his job. All of this while being both pursued and confronted by a variety of foes, both human and otherwise. I'm not sure how much the show will change details from the comics, but that's the overall gist. I'm betting they won't have the part where Jesse uses the word of God to tell the sheriff to go *beep* himself...which is a damn shame. They've already neutered Root. We're going to miss out on all kinds of glorious dialogue because this is on AMC. And yeah, they're likely going to work around his hilarious end. They will still need to have him kill himself in front of Arseface to advance the story though. So we'll likely see Jesse tell him something torturous either way. That was such an amazing moment in the comics. I feel they kind of burned that first literal word of God moment with the guy who cut out his heart in the first episode, sadly. So it won't have the same impact the next time he does it. Maybe they'll save their one chance to use this season on that moment. That would be worth it.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 20:11:01 GMT -5
I'm hoping and praying that Ed Harris gets cast as Herr Starr. But who knows.
Also, is there any news whatsoever on who's possibly playing Saint o' Killers?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 20:14:07 GMT -5
I honestly wasn't going to answer this because I didn't know if you were being facetious or not lol. But punksnotdead pretty much has you covered ☺
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 27, 2016 9:11:45 GMT -5
I'm just going to come right out and say I'm absolutely furious they went there with Tulip and Cass. That was such a big moment in the comics where Cass tries to cross that line and Tulip squashes it. I'm enjoying the show so far, but it worries me that they're not understanding the relationships between these characters this early on. They are also doing this weird revenge story with Tulip and Jesse that doesn't pack nearly the punch of Jesse abandoning Tulip in the midst of their love. That obviously sets up Jesse's family history as well, and right now that whole story is missing.
I also worry that if you haven't read the comics you probably have no clue what the hell is going on. It's taken them 5 episodes to get to the Genesis story. That's enough time to lose people who are curious about the show. Genesis is the fundamental building block of the entire story. The audience shouldn't be confused there imo.
With that though, they've done a pretty great job with the Saint of Killers so far. The backstory has been really cool to see and creates a nice dynamic for what is happening with Jesse in the present day. Quincannon has also been fantastic so far. Fiore and Deblanc are hilarious.
Rogen and Co claim this is a passion project and that they're big fans, but I have a hard time believing "big Preacher fans" would allow the fundamental dynamic of what makes this story great be bastardized this early into the show.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 15:50:32 GMT -5
Lol I thought this thread died a slow, cruel death. So I was just going to let it fade away.
I'm with you on the Cassidy/Tulip dynamic. I'm all for change from the source material if it serves a purpose.
To me, it screams "THE STUDIO WANTS THIS GUY AND GIRL TO BE TOGETHER, SO WE'RE GONNA PUT THEM TOGETHER ".
It's the same stuff Seinfeld had to deal with when they wanted him and Elaine to remain an item because for some unknown reason it's unheard of for a guy and girl to be friends with each other.
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Post by King Richius on Jun 27, 2016 15:59:28 GMT -5
I had high hopes after the debut episode which I really liked but as the season has progressed there are a few things that have bothered me. Both Jesse and Tulip seem to have strayed a good bit away from their comic book characters. Arseface seems way more well adjusted than any person permanently disfigured by an unsuccessful suicide attempt with a shotgun has any right to be. Odin Quincannon was introduced way too early in the story.
Cassidy is a high point and the story of the Saint of Killers is well done but a lot of other stuff isn't quite doing it for me.
It has become more of a reboot with a lot of remodeling instead of a retelling of the comic story in TV form.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 27, 2016 16:31:56 GMT -5
I had high hopes after the debut episode which I really liked but as the season has progressed there are a few things that have bothered me. Both Jesse and Tulip seem to have strayed a good bit away from their comic book characters. Arseface seems way more well adjusted than any person permanently disfigured by an unsuccessful suicide attempt with a shotgun has any right to be. Odin Quincannon was introduced way too early in the story. Cassidy is a high point and the story of the Saint of Killers is well done but a lot of other stuff isn't quite doing it for me. It has become more of a reboot with a lot of remodeling instead of a retelling of the comic story in TV form.I call this Resident Evil syndrome. At some point I'm sure I'll come to terms with it, but I generally hate when it happens. I was hoping Preacher wouldn't go there but I feel it's headed down that road. I also don't like that Jesse is seemingly getting off on his power. At least that was my perception from the last episode. That kind of contradicts the entire reason Genesis, seemingly, chose Jesse. Jesse figures out early on he shouldn't really play with his power. I also think they're going to completely muck up his father and his childhood. That would be the biggest travesty of them all since it largely explains everything about Jesse up to the point of when we meet him. I'm trying to take a deep breath. I'm mostly upset because this was so strongly pushed as a fanboy creative team. We're figuring out, quite quickly, that isn't the case.
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Post by TurboEddie on Jun 27, 2016 23:04:46 GMT -5
Despite the many changes, Preacher is still a great show. I love tuning in every Sunday night.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 29, 2016 14:24:31 GMT -5
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