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Post by ZDB on Jun 17, 2016 15:27:12 GMT -5
but macho didn't wrestle in the shirt in that HOF attire or elite 38. Those were entrance attires. He didn't wrestle with the crown, glasses or scepter either... WOOOOO
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jun 17, 2016 15:59:10 GMT -5
Because Razor wearing purple like every other night, mismatched Flair, and fire breathing Steamboat are so iconic. The line is not meant to be taken to heart. The name is only a name, not a requirement. The purpose of the line is to make an elite slightly nicer and put em in a fancy box Ever since the relaunch this may be the case. But initially it was figures in attires which were defining moments. I would absolutely say the fire breathing Ricky the Dragon is iconic. If it ain't a defining moment keep it in the elite line, the DM line should be used solely for iconic, defining moments Warrior's biggest moment was WM6 (Legends) Taker's most famous attire was purple gloves mortician (Elite) His first DM was a very unmemorable Bat-Taker look & his second was a rerelease of his second most iconic look, Ministry Steamboat's biggest moments were WM3 and Chi-Town Rumble, not a midcard dragon Savage's biggest moments were WM3 (unreleased DM) & WM4 (Legends/Battle Pack w/ Punk) Flair's biggest moment is probably Royal Rumble '92 and we get the robe in the DM & the figure in the Horsemen set Razor's biggest moment was WM10 in black (basic) Austin always wore black and the vest wasn't WM14, which was his biggest title win Ultimate Maniacs had awesome gear but no matches of importance As you can see, the Defining Moments line has never truly followed its name completely. Only Cena, Rock, Hogan, Crow Sting, & Surfer Sting have truly followed the guidelines. HBK, Savage, Warrior, Triple H, Austin #1 & #2, Bret, & Taker #2 are all debatable. It's just a tag line. It's never been about making figures of big moments, it's been about making elaborate and fancy attires, regardless if they were worn at Wrestlemania or a house show, or never at all like Flair
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Post by braaaaaaaapp on Jun 17, 2016 16:31:54 GMT -5
Ever since the relaunch this may be the case. But initially it was figures in attires which were defining moments. I would absolutely say the fire breathing Ricky the Dragon is iconic. If it ain't a defining moment keep it in the elite line, the DM line should be used solely for iconic, defining moments Warrior's biggest moment was WM6 (Legends) Taker's most famous attire was purple gloves mortician (Elite) His first DM was a very unmemorable Bat-Taker look & his second was a rerelease of his second most iconic look, Ministry Steamboat's biggest moments were WM3 and Chi-Town Rumble, not a midcard dragon Savage's biggest moments were WM3 (unreleased DM) & WM4 (Legends/Battle Pack w/ Punk) Flair's biggest moment is probably Royal Rumble '92 and we get the robe in the DM & the figure in the Horsemen set Razor's biggest moment was WM10 in black (basic) Austin always wore black and the vest wasn't WM14, which was his biggest title win Ultimate Maniacs had awesome gear but no matches of importance As you can see, the Defining Moments line has never truly followed its name completely. Only Cena, Rock, Hogan, Crow Sting, & Surfer Sting have truly followed the guidelines. HBK, Savage, Warrior, Triple H, Austin #1 & #2, Bret, & Taker #2 are all debatable. It's just a tag line. It's never been about making figures of big moments, it's been about making elaborate and fancy attires, regardless if they were worn at Wrestlemania or a house show, or never at all like Flair I know I've seen the proto before but I can't seem to find it anywhere... Do you have any pics of the unreleased Macho? Also, it was for sure supposed to be a DM?
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Post by Vamp55 on Jun 17, 2016 16:51:03 GMT -5
I'm afraid I don't agree. There is no way either of the Ultimate Maniacs should have been a Defining Moment figure. I fail to see how anybody can deem this tag team as a defining moment in either wrestlers career. It's ridiculous. They should have both been in the elite line, or the next elite 2 pack. The defining moments line means nothing. I missed the memo where Mattel changed the meaning of the words Defining Moment. Using this tag team gimmick as a so called defining moment is in fact an insult. The thought that the "defining Moment" line was based on a wrestlers "defining moment" went out the window with "the dragon -Steamboat". At that point, the line became Mattel's higher end line "defining moment" by name only. If the naming held true - Steamboats box would have read "low moment" as he was treated like a sideshow under that gimmick. I agree that the Ultimate Manaics didn't have not are they a defining anything in the history of the E, but the real kick in the teeth from Mattels part is that Warrior is the high end figure and Savage is the elite figure. If it were the other way around, which it should be due to the nature of attires etc, I don't believe there would be as much fall out. Who knows, maybe the budget for the E44 savage gets us a painted shirt and plastic coat (I'm thinking like RSC Hitman). Maybe the Defining moments line is finishing up, and Bill had no choice but to do it this way to make it work. I'm still holding out hope, but I think I will be disappointed. Further to the Warrior as the defining moment, as a MOC collector Defining Moments are my fav package ever, so that is the one positive I will say about the decision.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 16:52:27 GMT -5
There's never been any pictures of the unreleased savage d.m . However they made a handful of elite battle pack savages and they made it to eBay. Plans were changed I imagine due to all the constant out cries for cm punk in pink Tristar trunks because shortly after the basic came out in the same colour and attire as the battle pack (wm4 light purple)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 17:05:01 GMT -5
BadGirlRyleigh I understand your points, to a degree. But, it's the Defining Moments line, and not The Most Defining Moments. It is possible to have more than one defining moment.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Jun 17, 2016 17:19:19 GMT -5
Didn't think about it until I read this thread, but a molded or painted shirt would work for this figs...it'll definitely include the glasses and hat.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jun 17, 2016 17:23:45 GMT -5
Warrior's biggest moment was WM6 (Legends) Taker's most famous attire was purple gloves mortician (Elite) His first DM was a very unmemorable Bat-Taker look & his second was a rerelease of his second most iconic look, Ministry Steamboat's biggest moments were WM3 and Chi-Town Rumble, not a midcard dragon Savage's biggest moments were WM3 (unreleased DM) & WM4 (Legends/Battle Pack w/ Punk) Flair's biggest moment is probably Royal Rumble '92 and we get the robe in the DM & the figure in the Horsemen set Razor's biggest moment was WM10 in black (basic) Austin always wore black and the vest wasn't WM14, which was his biggest title win Ultimate Maniacs had awesome gear but no matches of importance As you can see, the Defining Moments line has never truly followed its name completely. Only Cena, Rock, Hogan, Crow Sting, & Surfer Sting have truly followed the guidelines. HBK, Savage, Warrior, Triple H, Austin #1 & #2, Bret, & Taker #2 are all debatable. It's just a tag line. It's never been about making figures of big moments, it's been about making elaborate and fancy attires, regardless if they were worn at Wrestlemania or a house show, or never at all like Flair I know I've seen the proto before but I can't seem to find it anywhere... Do you have any pics of the unreleased Macho? Also, it was for sure supposed to be a DM? No, that was a prototype for an elite WM4 light purple Macho, likely for a legends set. It was scrapped and that attire was released in the battle pack with Punk. They were no prototypes of DM WM3 Macho or the zebra Rey Mysterio, they were only planned
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Post by crush on Jun 17, 2016 17:24:20 GMT -5
I hope it's a painted shirt and plastic jacket (slightly retooled GAB Sting could work) along with the glasses/hat.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jun 17, 2016 17:25:19 GMT -5
BadGirlRyleigh I understand your points, to a degree. But, it's the Defining Moments line, and not The Most Defining Moments. It is possible to have more than one defining moment. That doesn't change the fact that the name has not been followed at every step. It was never meant to be taken so seriously. It's just a name. It means nothing
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Post by dixol on Jun 17, 2016 17:29:49 GMT -5
Warrior's biggest moment was WM6 (Legends) Taker's most famous attire was purple gloves mortician (Elite) His first DM was a very unmemorable Bat-Taker look & his second was a rerelease of his second most iconic look, Ministry Steamboat's biggest moments were WM3 and Chi-Town Rumble, not a midcard dragon Savage's biggest moments were WM3 (unreleased DM) & WM4 (Legends/Battle Pack w/ Punk) Flair's biggest moment is probably Royal Rumble '92 and we get the robe in the DM & the figure in the Horsemen set Razor's biggest moment was WM10 in black (basic) Austin always wore black and the vest wasn't WM14, which was his biggest title win Ultimate Maniacs had awesome gear but no matches of importance As you can see, the Defining Moments line has never truly followed its name completely. Only Cena, Rock, Hogan, Crow Sting, & Surfer Sting have truly followed the guidelines. HBK, Savage, Warrior, Triple H, Austin #1 & #2, Bret, & Taker #2 are all debatable. It's just a tag line. It's never been about making figures of big moments, it's been about making elaborate and fancy attires, regardless if they were worn at Wrestlemania or a house show, or never at all like Flair I know I've seen the proto before but I can't seem to find it anywhere... Do you have any pics of the unreleased Macho? Also, it was for sure supposed to be a DM? Bill confirmed yrs ago that Macho was supposed to be in DM5, but since the line was going to be cancelled, they scrapped DM5 and moved up DM6 to take its place. I don't think it was ever confirmed that the DM5 Macho was going to be WM3 tho. i think it is a safe guess, but I'm not sure if it was confirmed by Mattel.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 17:52:17 GMT -5
BadGirlRyleigh I understand your points, to a degree. But, it's the Defining Moments line, and not The Most Defining Moments. It is possible to have more than one defining moment. That doesn't change the fact that the name has not been followed at every step. It was never meant to be taken so seriously. It's just a name. It means nothing Who said so? I've not seen it said before that it's not meant to be an actual defining moment. Just saying
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Post by dixol on Jun 17, 2016 18:06:20 GMT -5
That doesn't change the fact that the name has not been followed at every step. It was never meant to be taken so seriously. It's just a name. It means nothing Who said so? I've not seen it said before that it's not meant to be an actual defining moment. Just saying see the post directly above yours. look up the video on youtube.
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Post by powerfred3k on Jun 17, 2016 18:09:14 GMT -5
Don't forget about the knee pads...
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Jun 17, 2016 18:19:29 GMT -5
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jun 17, 2016 18:50:41 GMT -5
I know I've seen the proto before but I can't seem to find it anywhere... Do you have any pics of the unreleased Macho? Also, it was for sure supposed to be a DM? Bill confirmed yrs ago that Macho was supposed to be in DM5, but since the line was going to be cancelled, they scrapped DM5 and moved up DM6 to take its place. I don't think it was ever confirmed that the DM5 Macho was going to be WM3 tho. i think it is a safe guess, but I'm not sure if it was confirmed by Mattel. Bill said WM3 Macho & Bash '09 Mysterio
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Post by TheHitmanKid on Jun 17, 2016 19:58:26 GMT -5
"Highest quality WWE figures ever produced" is what should make DM unique. Man a plastic Hogan shirt instead of cloth really bothers me the most becuase it was in the DM figure.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jun 17, 2016 20:46:58 GMT -5
Ever since the relaunch this may be the case. But initially it was figures in attires which were defining moments. I would absolutely say the fire breathing Ricky the Dragon is iconic. If it ain't a defining moment keep it in the elite line, the DM line should be used solely for iconic, defining moments Warrior's biggest moment was WM6 (Legends) Taker's most famous attire was purple gloves mortician (Elite) His first DM was a very unmemorable Bat-Taker look & his second was a rerelease of his second most iconic look, Ministry Steamboat's biggest moments were WM3 and Chi-Town Rumble, not a midcard dragon Savage's biggest moments were WM3 (unreleased DM) & WM4 (Legends/Battle Pack w/ Punk) Flair's biggest moment is probably Royal Rumble '92 and we get the robe in the DM & the figure in the Horsemen set Razor's biggest moment was WM10 in black (basic) Austin always wore black and the vest wasn't WM14, which was his biggest title win Ultimate Maniacs had awesome gear but no matches of importance As you can see, the Defining Moments line has never truly followed its name completely. Only Cena, Rock, Hogan, Crow Sting, & Surfer Sting have truly followed the guidelines. HBK, Savage, Warrior, Triple H, Austin #1 & #2, Bret, & Taker #2 are all debatable. It's just a tag line. It's never been about making figures of big moments, it's been about making elaborate and fancy attires, regardless if they were worn at Wrestlemania or a house show, or never at all like Flair Savage will always be linked to Hogan. I'm leaning towards WM5 as his defining moment. Not his biggest achievement or greatest match but it defines his entire career of always being in Hogan's shadow. More than any match, beer truck is Austin's defining moment. They got that right the first time.
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Post by warriorheart on Jun 19, 2016 10:21:56 GMT -5
I'd be fine with hat and glasses. I rarely ever pose my figs with jackets on.
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