BIG MCLARGEHUGE
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Post by BIG MCLARGEHUGE on Jun 23, 2016 14:22:32 GMT -5
All of OP's critiques are seemingly personal preference. Get the figures or don't get the figures. I understand talking about QA but to act like you know the pulse of what every collector wants is arrogant.
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vashts
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Post by vashts on Jun 23, 2016 14:27:13 GMT -5
I think you're giving them too much credit. I think they are releasing this "not-elite-45" line to recoup losses on the investment they made with the Zombie line As a big figure fan I think companies do this. So Hasbro increased the cost of their Legends line, to make up for their disasters in other places such as their Hero Mashers and so on.Maybe Mattel does this to make up for their loses in their Zombie line and even their DCUC line or what's left of it.
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Post by xtremebadass on Jun 23, 2016 14:32:01 GMT -5
Flexforce, Create-a-Wrestler, Zombies...when will it end? If they really want to get money back that they lost just re-release the first three waves of Defining Moments at $30 retail. That will do it.
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guster
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Post by guster on Jun 23, 2016 14:41:10 GMT -5
Sorry...I call it as I see it and from past experiences. As a manager, if somebody suggests we hire a consultant to do the job(s) of somebody we already pay somebody to do, then maybe those people shouldn't be paid by us anymore and should be replaced. Now if we hire somebody to do something in area we're not familiar with, I don't really consider that person a consultant. I would consider them a contractor offering a service we can't do (a keen to say hiring a plumber). What set me off about the OP, he was basically offering to do Bill's job and is completely tone-deaf to how insulting his post can be perceived. oh I agree with you re: OP, but I'd like to think I'm invested in colloaboratively finding the best solution - worthwhile work is my driver, money isn't. Oftentimes the "ideas" seem old and tierd because it's the client who decides not to follow-up on recommendations and it's easy to scapegoat the consultant. But honestly that really just reflects a poor contracting-in process by the consultant more than the incompetence of the client. I should have probably prefaced my little diatribe that I work in the marketing and advertising world. Half the people I work with jobs are to throw around buzzwords and just move their mouths until somebody agrees. So as you can imagine, bringing in more people to do the same thing doesn't jive with me. That's where I'm coming from within my past experiences. I've seen your collection throughout the years, so I'm assuming you probably are pretty good at what you do.
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Post by Professor Sparlin on Jun 23, 2016 15:03:06 GMT -5
Me too Mattel, I am a professional planner with a go-getter attitude and know everything there is to know about rear-end management! Where do I kiss..... Er, I mean sign!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 15:41:38 GMT -5
I'm not sure they'd recruit from a message board somehow are you lol Nothing against Mattel, but there's no way I would leave my current gig to work for the toy giant. A consult here or there is one thing and that's what I was offering, and although highly unlikely, something I'd be willing to do if it meant improving my hobby. But yes, please continue to think I'm using WFigs as some sort of half-wit Linked In rather than to simply balance out critiques with credit when and where it's due, and please continue to showcase ignorance with more posts like that. Instead of adding to the majority of negativity against Mattel, I decided to compliment them on a decision I had previously criticized. Apparently though, integrity is foreign to some people and it must be stopped and ridiculed. What i'd love to have bills job. But I bet he went into art and design. When he was young. Not into the battlefield.
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Post by Vamp55 on Jun 23, 2016 16:02:00 GMT -5
Lol - I think it's funny u offered your services to Mattel to help solve their planning "problems", right after u praise them for solving the planning problems. By the very definition of your statement, the services u have offered are redundant. U just asked for a job to do what they are already doing. LOL. Kinda like going to McDonald's and offering to make your own burger, right after they have just handed u your burger. Here is my problem with reissues. Mattel screwed the flashback/legends line to start. They tried to just copy Jakks, not understanding the loyalty Jakks had Built with collectors of the CS line. Compare the first few lines up of Legends and Classic Superstars. And then put it into context. Bret Hart & Ultimate Warrior hadn't been seen or heard of in WWE circles (in a positive light) for years. Then they debut a new line. If Mattel had of commenced the line with Macho and far better choices for attires etc, maybe the legends line doesn't fail. Anyway my point is Mattel shouldn't be doing straight up reissues- they are alienating the secondary market. It should be embraced, plenty of ways to skin a cat. Take RSC SCSA and the DM SCSA. A perfect way for Mattel to capitalise on the secondary demand of a figure (belt) without distorting the long term secondary market. Yes the RSC value has dropped, but in time it will come back as new collectors try to close our collection. Why? Because it's a repaint, not a reissue. All that said, if this strategy leads to having a greater budget left for other figures which means we get cloth shirts etc, then I take it all back and Mattel are the masters of the world. But there needs to be something in it for the consumer/collector of the product, not just a money grab for Mattel. Because karma is a mother er and it will bite them in the ass at some point. Time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2016 16:04:16 GMT -5
Mattel makes dumbass choices sometimes I don't sugar coat it.
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Post by TheLastDude on Jun 23, 2016 17:20:17 GMT -5
I will be the first to admit, I'm not shy about coming on here and criticizing MattelDesignTeam when I feel they deserve it. Mattel's made some pretty egregiously bad choices with some of the more notable ones being the decision to include Cactus Jack in their plan for HOF3 despite obviously not having the contract situation finalized in order to do so, the decision to release an American Made Hulk Hogan figure before a Hollywood Hogan figure, and their strategy on re-releases. First off, they don't decide to do these figures a week before they're in stores. It's very likely that when Cactus was added to the line, everything WAS good to go...and they only found out at the last minute that they were going to have to pull him. You can thank Foley and the WWE not being able to come to terms for that...not Mattel. Secondly, American Made Hulk was an RSC exclusive, and not a retail figure. Your argument would have better legs had AM Hulk been available everywhere. Also, how was Mattel supposed to know in advance that Hogan was going to wind up being blackballed? They aren't going to just throw out all the heavy hitters in one shot like a virgin shooting off too quickly on prom night. They're going to release all the big Hogan looks a little bit at a time. It makes good business sense...and let's face it, Hogan did't have THAT many different looks. It's unfortunate that Hollywood didn't make it out before Hogan got chopped...but again, that's hardly Mattel's fault. While this is far from confirmed, the rumor is that this series is not the same as "Elite 45" and instead, it's an off-shoot. How is this NOT confirmed? Bill stated it's a one-shot wave called Elite Legends. If it was Elite 45...they'd call it...Elite 45. MattelDesignTeam if you're ever looking for additional support from a professional planner that knows the product, don't hesitate to contact me. Why on Earth would they hire you to do planning for them when the majority of this post is easily picked apart as being completely wrong and more than a little off base? You've done nothing here but show that you have no idea how Mattel operates or why they make the decisions they make.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2016 0:53:37 GMT -5
Funniest post I've read on this forum in a long time.
Mattel, please please hire this guy... That way we'll know for sure that a Chyna "Ringside Exclusive Vivid Edition" is on its way 100%, along with every possible TERRIBLE decision that could ever be made.
LOL
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Post by James St. James on Jun 24, 2016 1:37:00 GMT -5
How is this still not locked?
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Post by kgchampion on Jun 24, 2016 2:23:44 GMT -5
Here's the Summary: Complaint, Complaint, Praise, Asks for a job. Thanks for the tl;dr. Let me introduce you to my friend ⋔ 4 ℞ ℞ $, and if you can shadow him that'd be swell. Thanks bud! This is why you're one of my favorites.
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Post by kgchampion on Jun 24, 2016 2:27:15 GMT -5
Why does Mattel get blamed for the Hogan thing? Who the hell saw that one coming?
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Post by Bandalero on Jun 24, 2016 10:43:45 GMT -5
Why does Mattel get blamed for the Hogan thing? Who the hell saw that one coming? You're right, but I think people are burned more about the "lack of" priority Mattel appears to give some of these figures. Clearly there was massive demand for a Hollywood Hogan and at last year's SDCC Mattel shows this proto that it's coming in the DM line - cept the distribution of the DM line is centered around the 4 major PPVs, so Hollywood Hogan isn't coming til a whole year afterwards. In the meantime we get blue trunks hogan and black pants hogan and by then he implodes in real life and the next thing you know WWE has a self imposed ban from Hogan. If you know Hollywood is in high demand, then prioritize his release because it will net you more money. It just seems like common sense. Don't hold it back for a year, so many things can happen in a year. Nobody was asking for Hogan in blue trunks.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jun 24, 2016 11:06:53 GMT -5
Why does Mattel get blamed for the Hogan thing? Who the hell saw that one coming? You're right, but I think people are burned more about the "lack of" priority Mattel appears to give some of these figures. Clearly there was massive demand for a Hollywood Hogan and at last year's SDCC Mattel shows this proto that it's coming in the DM line - cept the distribution of the DM line is centered around the 4 major PPVs, so Hollywood Hogan isn't coming til a whole year afterwards. In the meantime we get blue trunks hogan and black pants hogan and by then he implodes in real life and the next thing you know WWE has a self imposed ban from Hogan. If you know Hollywood is in high demand, then prioritize his release because it will net you more money. It just seems like common sense. Don't hold it back for a year, so many things can happen in a year. Nobody was asking for Hogan in blue trunks. That, and Hogan and Vince have always had a rocky relationship. Hogan isn't a guy you can rely on sticking around his entire contract. You make the most wanted pieces first and then go with the lesser desired figures like modern Hulk or American Made Hogan. Same with Foley. Get out Cactus, Mankind, and Dude Love as quickly as possible because he also has a history of not sticking around. Instead of making Dude Love they make another Mankind. Then when they think they may have him signed again, do they make Dude then? No, they make another Cactus.
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Post by James St. James on Jun 24, 2016 11:21:57 GMT -5
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bharrisfan
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Post by bharrisfan on Jun 24, 2016 12:06:40 GMT -5
blue trunks hogan makes me mad every time i think about it. then i think about that weak, skinny DM nWo Hogan and i'm like well i was gonna be bummed about that figure too. either way the hogan situation makes me hate mattel.
then i have to look at my doink figure to try to get a little perspective.
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BIG MCLARGEHUGE
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Post by BIG MCLARGEHUGE on Jun 24, 2016 12:34:39 GMT -5
What's wrong with American Made Hulkster? I think it's one of the coolest figures-- presentation, packaging are top notch.
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Post by guster on Jun 24, 2016 13:33:19 GMT -5
Why does Mattel get blamed for the Hogan thing? Who the hell saw that one coming? You're right, but I think people are burned more about the "lack of" priority Mattel appears to give some of these figures. Clearly there was massive demand for a Hollywood Hogan and at last year's SDCC Mattel shows this proto that it's coming in the DM line - cept the distribution of the DM line is centered around the 4 major PPVs, so Hollywood Hogan isn't coming til a whole year afterwards. In the meantime we get blue trunks hogan and black pants hogan and by then he implodes in real life and the next thing you know WWE has a self imposed ban from Hogan. If you know Hollywood is in high demand, then prioritize his release because it will net you more money. It just seems like common sense. Don't hold it back for a year, so many things can happen in a year. Nobody was asking for Hogan in blue trunks. The way Bill slotted the DMs made perfect sense if he was trying prolong the life of the DM series. DM was set up to have 1 figure per financial quarter. With DM being its own individual SKU, retailers will base future sales and projections on how the first couple figures do. With the 2015 Q1 being Hogan's first figure, it's fair to say you're bot going to find many characters that will outsell Hogan's first figure. Retailers will then base their 2016 Q1 purchase based on how 2015 did and so forth. Really the only character that could match or surpass that first Hogan figure would be Hollywood. If the Q1 2016 falls short of Q1 2015, that will negatively effect Q1 2017 or the entire DM line for that matter.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jun 24, 2016 13:40:52 GMT -5
What's wrong with American Made Hulkster? I think it's one of the coolest figures-- presentation, packaging are top notch. It wasn't Hollywood Hogan. I bought it but I had issues with it. The head scan was weird looking. The headband was too think. I hate the split in the front shirts they gave hogan but even more so since they didn't include a belt to hold it together.
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