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Post by PJ on Jul 14, 2016 13:59:50 GMT -5
I don't hate anyone selling off figures in their collection. They can do whatever they want with their stuff, but I don't buy any figures off the secondary market. It is something I never have or will ever do. But I don't begrudge anyone who has to sell their stuff.
But here is a question for you...who do you think sets these inflated secondary market prices that you think they're worth? When Magazines like Toyfare were out those prices listed in it were set Good old T0y W!Z as the owners were brothers who parents gave them each a piece of the family business. And Magazines like Lee's, Tomarts or sports card magazines like Beckett's would get their prices from Collectables dealers. So just because they would print something was worth x amount of dollars meant absolutely nothing. Selling something you can put whatever price you want on it, but the fact of the matter is something is only worth whatever the buyer is willing to spend.
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Post by xtremebadass on Jul 14, 2016 14:34:45 GMT -5
I don't sell figures. I bought some off ebay before, even though I'm not a fan of it, per say. I hate price gouging. By whoever does it. I especially hate when people break down a figure and sell part by part. Go get a real ing job and quit trying to get over on people by selling plastic on ebay. I see that a lot. Sellers are selling either accessories or actual arms/legs/heads of figures separately. It is just disgusting. If you are so desperate to make money that you'd charge $10-$15 for a head of a figure that originally costs $9.99, you need to re-evaluate your life. "...and try to sell it on eBay because they're too lazy to get a real job." - CM Punk
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jul 14, 2016 15:11:37 GMT -5
I don't hate anyone selling off figures in their collection. They can do whatever they want with their stuff, but I don't buy any figures off the secondary market. It is something I never have or will ever do. But I don't begrudge anyone who has to sell their stuff. But here is a question for you...who do you think sets these inflated secondary market prices that you think they're worth? When Magazines like Toyfare were out those prices listed in it were set Good old T0y W!Z as the owners were brothers who parents gave them each a piece of the family business. And Magazines like Lee's, Tomarts or sports card magazines like Beckett's would get their prices from Collectables dealers. So just because they would print something was worth x amount of dollars meant absolutely nothing. Selling something you can put whatever price you want on it, but the fact of the matter is something is only worth whatever the buyer is willing to spend. eBay definitely sets the current market price. And its not the sellers, its the buyers. People are more informed than ever of what their collectibles are worth and eBay is probably the resource used most. Want to know what a loose L6 Warrior is currently worth? Then go on their site and look at the most recent sold listings. RSC is another place that will set the market value. Preorders go up and you have 2 items listed at $22.99, one at $24.99, and two at $26.99. That right there tells you which figures are likely gonna be the more sought after and hardest to find in the series. Don't you think scalpers are looking at these presale prices and using that as a tool as to which ones to grab up and which ones to leave on the shelves?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 15:18:09 GMT -5
I completely and utterly reject the "get a real job" comment. At least they have the get up and go to do something with their lives. Instead of dossing around expecting a living to be handed out, like we have in the uk with our benefits system. I say good luck to them. If they want to take the time to dismantle a figure and photograph it, list it, pack it, mail it then all power to them. If someone does this on a large scale they probably work more than someone sat behind a computer screen in an office. This world is too quick to throw around insults, "get a proper job" it's outrageous. At least they're doing something with their lives to earn a bit of cash.
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Post by Vamp55 on Jul 14, 2016 15:34:50 GMT -5
Something is only worth what you, are prepared to pay for it. I tend to disagree on this. Somethings worth or value is not set by one person. It's set by a market. If you aren't prepared to pay a certain amount of money for something, but someone else is. Then you don't value it as much as the market, but is value is still there, just not for you. And people hate on others selling for more then retail, because mostly they are enviest of wanting that figure to own or sell, but not valuing it like others do. For the record, I love the secondary market. If I had one main complaint of Mattel it's the fact they don't. I have said this before, Jeremy (Jakks guy responsible for the classic line) loved the value on the secondary market, and tried to keep it healthy. Mattel does the opposite and it undervalues what they have created. I have brought and sold on the secondary market (most of us outside the US have to buy like this), and I have no issue paying over retail for something that I value and want. Something is worth what "someone" will pay, not just me.
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Post by Instant Classic on Jul 14, 2016 15:59:08 GMT -5
whenn I sell something on ebay, I will set a low starting bid, letting the buyers decide the price. I do dislike high reserves on auctions.
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Post by @.@ Hempsterdance @.@ on Jul 14, 2016 17:18:45 GMT -5
If you collect you shouldn't collet for resale value. Plain and simple.
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Post by gregrules420 on Jul 14, 2016 17:33:17 GMT -5
Some people only collect for the value they still collect the things they like.... But they like that the things that they own have value and I think when the value goes down on said things because of re releases It Hurts The Collector that had any kind of Leverage an example I use is your Trading somebody and E 23 Undertaker in perfect Moc condition and now they're like no thanks I'll just wait for this you're not going to get the figure you wanted from me I could see where that would get frustrating
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Post by PJ on Jul 14, 2016 18:06:49 GMT -5
Some people only collect for the value they still collect the things they like.... But they like that the things that they own have value and I think when the value goes down on said things because of re releases It Hurts The Collector that had any kind of Leverage an example I use is your Trading somebody and E 23 Undertaker in perfect Moc condition and now they're like no thanks I'll just wait for this you're not going to get the figure you wanted from me I could see where that would get frustrating But if you collect why would you be trading away part of your collection? I know people like to buy extra for "trade bait", but I never could understand that whole concept. Just leave it and use that money for the figures you want to trade for. I mean I can see and understand things come up where you might have to sell off your collection to pay for life if you fall on hard times, but not to trade it away. But then with the exception of a couple figures that were packed in a bP with the figures I wanted there is nothing in my collection I didn't personally want to have in my collection.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 18:06:55 GMT -5
So many sellers base prices off of "buy it now" amounts, not what the actually sell for. resulting in higher prices all around, because they think collectors are actually paying that.
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Post by bdzman26 on Jul 14, 2016 18:34:38 GMT -5
For every collector that hates scalpers, there's a scalper that hates re-releases. It's a vicious circle. I open my figs. I dig the hunt. I just want Mattel to produce enough so I can find everyone at retail. I've missed out on whole elite series back to back and store exclusives. And I get out there a lot more than I should probably.
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Jul 14, 2016 18:41:33 GMT -5
I don't sell figures. I bought some off ebay before, even though I'm not a fan of it, per say. I hate price gouging. By whoever does it. I especially hate when people break down a figure and sell part by part. Go get a real ing job and quit trying to get over on people by selling plastic on ebay. Just sounds like you are jealous I personally reselll on ebay/amazon for a living. I constantly go to goodwill/thrift stores to snag good deals. If someone is too blind to pick up an item and take 5 seconds to list it online to make 3x the amount they bought it for then so what. I dont do wwe figures, but its the same principal. Real job? so basically go sweat your ass off at a job you hate for chump change? Thats what i quit, Ill stick to what im doing making more then what i was at my real job.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 19:03:20 GMT -5
I don't sell figures. I bought some off ebay before, even though I'm not a fan of it, per say. I hate price gouging. By whoever does it. I especially hate when people break down a figure and sell part by part. Go get a real ing job and quit trying to get over on people by selling plastic on ebay. I see that a lot. Sellers are selling either accessories or actual arms/legs/heads of figures separately. It is just disgusting. If you are so desperate to make money that you'd charge $10-$15 for a head of a figure that originally costs $9.99, you need to re-evaluate your life. "...and try to sell it on eBay because they're too lazy to get a real job." - CM Punk Selling off heads and hands etc is helpful for those of us who customize.
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Post by brick on Jul 14, 2016 19:04:40 GMT -5
I don't sell figures. I bought some off ebay before, even though I'm not a fan of it, per say. I hate price gouging. By whoever does it. I especially hate when people break down a figure and sell part by part. Go get a real ing job and quit trying to get over on people by selling plastic on ebay. I see that a lot. Sellers are selling either accessories or actual arms/legs/heads of figures separately. It is just disgusting. If you are so desperate to make money that you'd charge $10-$15 for a head of a figure that originally costs $9.99, you need to re-evaluate your life. "...and try to sell it on eBay because they're too lazy to get a real job." - CM Punk Meh, I don't see the big outrage. Sometimes, you really only need the accessory or the body part. If I'm doing a fix-up and need a certain type of arms, I'd rather spend the $7 or $8 on the arms rather than $20 on the whole figure. Or like with the last Elite Dean. I just wanted the hat and had no interest in the figure. For me, it was less hassle to find someone on the Bay selling the hat for like $7 rather than spend $20 on the whole figure. It's a matter of convenience, and yeah, sometimes you're willing to pay a little extra for that. Just my two cents.
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Post by BIG MCLARGEHUGE on Jul 14, 2016 19:08:31 GMT -5
I don't sell figures. I bought some off ebay before, even though I'm not a fan of it, per say. I hate price gouging. By whoever does it. I especially hate when people break down a figure and sell part by part. Go get a real ing job and quit trying to get over on people by selling plastic on ebay. Just sounds like you are jealous I personally reselll on ebay/amazon for a living. I constantly go to goodwill/thrift stores to snag good deals. If someone is too blind to pick up an item and take 5 seconds to list it online to make 3x the amount they bought it for then so what. I dont do wwe figures, but its the same principal. Real job? so basically go sweat your ass off at a job you hate for chump change? Thats what i quit, Ill stick to what im doing making more then what i was at my real job. Flipping thrift stuff is fine. It's when people buy up retail stock and preorders of collectibles and rip people off for them. Drives me nuts to see someone buy the whole Walgreens Shawn Michaels display instead of letting someone who just wants one to find it and buy at a fair price. It's scummy.
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Post by rustyjohnson on Jul 14, 2016 19:10:09 GMT -5
I don't sell figures. I bought some off ebay before, even though I'm not a fan of it, per say. I hate price gouging. By whoever does it. I especially hate when people break down a figure and sell part by part. Go get a real ing job and quit trying to get over on people by selling plastic on ebay. Part by part people are SCUM. Period. Period.
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Post by brick on Jul 14, 2016 19:10:20 GMT -5
I completely and utterly reject the "get a real job" comment. At least they have the get up and go to do something with their lives. Instead of dossing around expecting a living to be handed out, like we have in the uk with our benefits system. I say good luck to them. If they want to take the time to dismantle a figure and photograph it, list it, pack it, mail it then all power to them. If someone does this on a large scale they probably work more than someone sat behind a computer screen in an office. This world is too quick to throw around insults, "get a proper job" it's outrageous. At least they're doing something with their lives to earn a bit of cash. Right. A buddy of mine has a side gig selling non-wrestling related toys online. He definitely puts in some work. It's kind of a hassle to take quality photos, do proper packaging (hint: lots of people are lousy at doing a good job at this), dealing with customers, etc. Just because they aren't cleaning toilets or mowing lawns doesn't mean they aren't working. And few people can fully support themselves on just flipping stuff. You've got all the fees associated with selling online, and now with the IRS taxing people who bring in X amount through PayPal every year, there's another big expense for most people who do this. My buddy genuinely enjoys the hobby, as he's a collector himself, but he's definitely not making a good living on any of this, nor is he bemoaning that fact. For him, it's enough to cover the cost of his own collecting, and maybe cover some non-necessities (like going out, a small vacation, what have you).
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Post by brick on Jul 14, 2016 19:15:07 GMT -5
I don't sell figures. I bought some off ebay before, even though I'm not a fan of it, per say. I hate price gouging. By whoever does it. I especially hate when people break down a figure and sell part by part. Go get a real ing job and quit trying to get over on people by selling plastic on ebay. Part by part people are SCUM. Period. Period. I think in most cases, they aren't making much more, if anything, selling the parts. It's expected sellers do "free" shipping, which is something they still have to pay out of pocket. In theory, that's an expense they might have to pay two or three times if they sell the figure for parts rather than as a complete figure. And like I mentioned before, if I only need the head or the arms or whatever, I don't have a problem paying for just those. A good example is when Elite 36 (?) Dean came out. I only wanted the head to modify my Shield Dean. I had no interest in the figure itself. So I went online and bought the head for, I think, $9 shipped. That was worth it to me not to spend an extra $11 for a figure and accessories I had no interest in.
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Post by brick on Jul 14, 2016 19:16:12 GMT -5
But yeah, I don't like the people buying all the good stuff at retail with the intention to flip. Still I don't see how these people are actually making money to make it worthwhile, since Amazon has pretty much eliminated the need to do any toy hunting for non-exclusives. can't be $20 shipped for Elites not even in stores yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 19:16:30 GMT -5
I don't sell figures. I bought some off ebay before, even though I'm not a fan of it, per say. I hate price gouging. By whoever does it. I especially hate when people break down a figure and sell part by part. Go get a real ing job and quit trying to get over on people by selling plastic on ebay. Part by part people are SCUM. Period. Period. scum? Get a f'in grip!
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