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Post by Joey Cush on Jul 16, 2016 15:39:08 GMT -5
Suspend him for 30 contract dates. Without pay. The only way it could work is if they do it like that. That'll be like 5 years until he returns Lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 16:01:18 GMT -5
Suspend him for 30 contract dates. Without pay. The only way it could work is if they do it like that. That'll be like 5 years until he returns Lol His booking's been so terrible since last Summer, that I really don't think anyone would be missing out.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Jul 16, 2016 20:24:39 GMT -5
"As previously reported, Brock Lesnar was recently flagged by USADA for a possible anti-doping violation following his UFC 200 fight against Mark Hunt.
It is currently unknown what may have triggered Lesnar's recent test to become positive; however, according to one of Lesnar's training teammates, who identified himself only as "D2" in an online forum, the culprit is a simple asthma inhaler that Lesnar must take at certain times during the year.
Below are the comments that were offered by "D2":
"Brock suffers from what's called RAD, otherwise known as reactive airway disease. His doctor for years has prescribed him Advair Diskus (an inhaler), which helps him breathe during the late spring and summer months here in Minnesota when he has episodes. This drug is classified as Beta-2 Agonists. So this is why he got popped by USADA. It's really just a formality though, because he should of been given a TUE just like people do who have ADHD and take Adderall that fight in the UFC, or other pain killers for injuries. He passed the other 7 tests and was not using any GH or Anabolic agents of any kind which everyone is assuming."
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Post by l on Jul 16, 2016 20:52:43 GMT -5
Well, it could be for something that's legal in one and not in the other. There are some pretty strict guidelines and rules. It might have been something like a diuretic (although I don't know why he would do that as he is a heavyweight unless there is a weight limit and superheavyweight in MMA?)
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Post by Kanenite on Jul 16, 2016 21:37:26 GMT -5
"As previously reported, Brock Lesnar was recently flagged by USADA for a possible anti-doping violation following his UFC 200 fight against Mark Hunt.
It is currently unknown what may have triggered Lesnar's recent test to become positive; however, according to one of Lesnar's training teammates, who identified himself only as "D2" in an online forum, the culprit is a simple asthma inhaler that Lesnar must take at certain times during the year.
Below are the comments that were offered by "D2":"Brock suffers from what's called RAD, otherwise known as reactive airway disease. His doctor for years has prescribed him Advair Diskus (an inhaler), which helps him breathe during the late spring and summer months here in Minnesota when he has episodes. This drug is classified as Beta-2 Agonists. So this is why he got popped by USADA. It's really just a formality though, because he should of been given a TUE just like people do who have ADHD and take Adderall that fight in the UFC, or other pain killers for injuries. He passed the other 7 tests and was not using any GH or Anabolic agents of any kind which everyone is assuming." I hope that's all it is.
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Post by Darkhawk on Jul 16, 2016 21:43:04 GMT -5
Well if that's the case then it's nothing to be worried about. Btw Hunt is starting to annoy me with all his whining dude needs to just chill and stop jumping into conclusions.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Jul 16, 2016 21:57:56 GMT -5
Well if that's the case then it's nothing to be worried about. Btw Hunt is starting to annoy me with all his whining dude needs to just chill and stop jumping into conclusions. Kind of like everyone in this thread.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 16, 2016 23:22:03 GMT -5
I actually have asthma and have used that inhaler before and it f'd up my blood work when I had it done after I started using the in inhlaler. I do honestly think the USADA does update these supplements so frequently that it's hard to keep up with. It's getting a little ridiculous with all the stuff they test for.
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Post by johnnyb on Jul 16, 2016 23:42:31 GMT -5
1000% disagree. While Brock is a name that brought credibility and some crossover appeal....he does not have the drawing power of someone like The Rock. WWE will be just fine if Brock went back to his shed in Canada tomorrow and bailed hay, milked some cows and Benoited his family. Wow, this is both totally uncalled for and extremely unfunny.
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Post by Joey Cush on Jul 17, 2016 0:57:22 GMT -5
If it turns out to be true the test was flagged due to his inhaler, a LOT of people are going to be eating crow next few weeks.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 17, 2016 1:36:58 GMT -5
If it turns out to be true the test was flagged due to his inhaler, a LOT of people are going to be eating crow next few weeks. A banned substance is a banned substance? I think he would face the same penalties as others. As far as I know the USADA does not release what a fighter tests positive for. Thats why Jon Jones' results are still.....
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Jul 17, 2016 1:44:54 GMT -5
If it turns out to be true the test was flagged due to his inhaler, a LOT of people are going to be eating crow next few weeks. A banned substance is a banned substance? I think he would face the same penalties as others. As far as I know the USADA does not release what a fighter tests positive for. Thats why Jon Jones' results are still..... They legally cannot release what he tested positive for, as far as I know, unless the fighter gives them written permission to. But I will say this - if it winds up coming out to be true that Brock only failed a drug test because of his asthma inhaler, it is going to make both the USADA and UFC look like complete fools for overreacting way too early.
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Post by Dan on Jul 17, 2016 7:26:11 GMT -5
Lesnar's silence is deafening right now. If he was legitimately innocent you'd think he'd be correcting this straight away and getting this publically sorted as it's obviously destroying his image. It's an absolutely huge blow for Vince and the WWE. The win vs Hunt would of made his WWE return huge this time around, he'd be freshened straight back up again. Now, I don't know how people can buy into him or Heyman when it's been all over the Media that he's been away and possibly doping to win a fight.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 8:00:08 GMT -5
This thread is getting out of control. Ugh.
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Post by DOD_Figures on Jul 17, 2016 10:10:56 GMT -5
Then make him apologize. Say whatever you want about him on TV. Reigns got hit with 30 days & isn't losing his main event spot on the PPV. Might as well do the same thing with Brock. Absolutely. Is what it is. But Brock deserves the same was Reigns. If you really want to get technical, I think since WWE released such a joke of a statement basically saying his violation is during his "off time" and they arent concerned with it.....his scheduled return date of SS should be day 1 of his 30 day suspension. Whats the sense of punishing a guy for 30 days during a time he wasnt performing for you anyway? WWE basically confirmed their wellness policy is a joke....something the rest of the world already knew. the wwe isn't in the position to punish brock...they need him more than he needs them clearly. 1000% disagree. While Brock is a name that brought credibility and some crossover appeal....he does not have the drawing power of someone like The Rock. WWE will be just fine if Brock went back to his shed in Canada tomorrow and bailed hay, milked some cows and Benoited his family. Obviously guys are on steroids in WWE. Seriously you can't get me to believe someone the size of Brock or Rock isn't on the juice. I'd say somewhere from Cena to Cesaro is as big as you can possibly get and be clean. Guys like Ryback, Big E, Brock and Rock are all juicing. Can't tell me otherwise. Agreed on Brock and Rock. Cena has been rumored to be on roids for years. I doubt it. I give him the benefit of the doubt. He was a body builder before and was ridiculously shredded and never got popped. Cesaro is ing strong...but dude doesnt look one bit like he is on roids. If he was, Cesaro would be ridiculously huge. I have no proof, but guys like Ryback and Big E do seem to have some step up. I dont want to point the finger at them cuz I honestly do not know. I also never understood why steroids in wrestling was a bad thing. Everyone knows that wrestling is fake. And I think everyone here knows what I mean by that. It's not like Lesnar vs. Orton is a real match, and each man is trying to overcome the other to win. They know who is gonna win and lose. So who cares?!?! Steroids helps heal athletes faster, and in a sport where everything is predetermined, I figure it shouldn't matter if you use a decent amount of them to maintain the physical attributes you need in the world of sports entertainment. And in the 1980s they were used for the EXACT reason you said. However the dangers of anabolic steroids came to light and the govt. put the kabosh on it. We now understand what the prolonged use of steroids can do to your body. We are talking kidney failure, liver damage and more common than all....enlarged heart, high blood pressure and high cholestorol which leads to heart failure or even stroke. That and now we have all the information coming out on how they mess with your head. Competitive sports are known, even those with helmets, of having head trauma. Combine that with the affects of roids....you get a possible Benoit situation or maybe a Junior Seau situation. Why do people care what other choose to put in their bodies? There are safer ways to treat these issues. One of which, which is also illegal, is marijuana. Marijuana has been known to provide pain relief and its not addicting. In addition, you are literally talking about a plant from the earth that is being smoked vs. harmful chemicals. It can be taxed and as you have seen in states like Colorado, supply a surplus of tax revenue that the govt. can balance their books and still have money left over to return to the tax paying citizens. States are turning to the federal govt. because they cannot stay afloat and yet there is a simple solution. I think if you saw more and more states legalize it....you would find more professional sporting companies adjusting their rules. Marijuana is still considered a dirty word and is seen as a "gateway drug". The fact is alcohol is 100X more dangerous than weed. Suspend him for 30 contract dates. Without pay. The only way it could work is if they do it like that. Excellent idea. Only one problem. 30 contract dates? Lesnar probably would be dead before that suspension would be over. Maybe someone can fill me in, but what exactly is a "possible doping violation"? Isn't it as simple as he either failed a drug test or didn't? Also, I have a hard time believing Brock failed one drug test but was able to pass the other four that he had to take. That doesn't make much sense to me how that could even happen. He was tested so frequently that if he failed one test, I don't see how he wouldn't have failed them all. This entire story is really bizarre. The timing and everything of it is just suspicious to me. I'm not saying he's innocent, it's just really weird how this all unfolded within the past 24 hours. You hit the nail on the head with how bizarre it is. 1 test is a fail but the other 4 in the 2 weeks before the fight were passes? Results come out 1 day AFTER UFC is sold for $4 billion? Jones test back in time to be pulled, but not Brock's? It smells like and I hope I am wrong, UFC sat on this feeling that 200 would completely bomb if Conner was pulled, Jones pulled 2 days before the fight and then Lesnar pulled. 3 main events squashed. The main event, lone main event, is a woman's fight that does not feature Rousey? The undercard that has been extremely glossed over though was a solid card having really no time to build? "As previously reported, Brock Lesnar was recently flagged by USADA for a possible anti-doping violation following his UFC 200 fight against Mark Hunt.
It is currently unknown what may have triggered Lesnar's recent test to become positive; however, according to one of Lesnar's training teammates, who identified himself only as "D2" in an online forum, the culprit is a simple asthma inhaler that Lesnar must take at certain times during the year.
Below are the comments that were offered by "D2":"Brock suffers from what's called RAD, otherwise known as reactive airway disease. His doctor for years has prescribed him Advair Diskus (an inhaler), which helps him breathe during the late spring and summer months here in Minnesota when he has episodes. This drug is classified as Beta-2 Agonists. So this is why he got popped by USADA. It's really just a formality though, because he should of been given a TUE just like people do who have ADHD and take Adderall that fight in the UFC, or other pain killers for injuries. He passed the other 7 tests and was not using any GH or Anabolic agents of any kind which everyone is assuming." I have NO belief in this story. Sounds like utter BS. If this was the issue, its so simple and so explainable that Lesnar could have gotten in front of this right away. He would not need to stay silent nor would need a B sample test. Also, why hop online and call yourself D2 if its something so innocent and explainable. Why not have your PR team, UFC PR team, WWE PR team, etc. getting in front of this and making Lesnar almost the victim of all this. Only Lesnar fans and the sheep are defending him. Some of the stuff I have read is downright laughable. "What makes the USADA the all supreme when he has never failed a WWE test?" "They just trying to bring the man down." "Kevin Sullivan did it." Quite possibly the most ignorant post on all of WF right here by CM. I'm just going to leave this alone before my head explodes. From not understanding how drug test and half lives of drugs work, to not understanding b2 agonists and how tests can't detect the difference in b2 agonists, to fox news misconceptions of steroids, their side effects, what they do, and their mechanism of action (how they work), to not understating PR, to trying to make a joke out of a murder/suicide, then all the way to not understanding what CTE Is and how it effects the brain and actions of people. My god. I'm out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 10:22:05 GMT -5
Well if that's the case then it's nothing to be worried about. Btw Hunt is starting to annoy me with all his whining dude needs to just chill and stop jumping into conclusions. Kind of like everyone in this thread. And... boom goes the dynamite
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 10:37:02 GMT -5
"Welp, here comes the fine!"
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jul 17, 2016 12:07:57 GMT -5
He ate a poppyseed muffin. That's all.
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Post by tylerbreezee on Jul 17, 2016 12:12:06 GMT -5
Lesnar's silence is deafening right now. If he was legitimately innocent you'd think he'd be correcting this straight away and getting this publically sorted as it's obviously destroying his image. It's an absolutely huge blow for Vince and the WWE. The win vs Hunt would of made his WWE return huge this time around, he'd be freshened straight back up again. Now, I don't know how people can buy into him or Heyman when it's been all over the Media that he's been away and possibly doping to win a fight. www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ufc/2016/07/15/brock-lesnar-us-anti-doping-steroids-violation/87155814/ Plus for the most part, when you start defending yourself and everything like that, it just makes you look more guilty. Keeping somewhat quiet while it's sorted out is the best thing you can do.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Jul 17, 2016 14:19:55 GMT -5
"As previously reported, Brock Lesnar was recently flagged by USADA for a possible anti-doping violation following his UFC 200 fight against Mark Hunt.
It is currently unknown what may have triggered Lesnar's recent test to become positive; however, according to one of Lesnar's training teammates, who identified himself only as "D2" in an online forum, the culprit is a simple asthma inhaler that Lesnar must take at certain times during the year.
Below are the comments that were offered by "D2":"Brock suffers from what's called RAD, otherwise known as reactive airway disease. His doctor for years has prescribed him Advair Diskus (an inhaler), which helps him breathe during the late spring and summer months here in Minnesota when he has episodes. This drug is classified as Beta-2 Agonists. So this is why he got popped by USADA. It's really just a formality though, because he should of been given a TUE just like people do who have ADHD and take Adderall that fight in the UFC, or other pain killers for injuries. He passed the other 7 tests and was not using any GH or Anabolic agents of any kind which everyone is assuming." Update: A moderator from Sherdog.com, the origin of the post, is saying that the person is trolling: The guy who started this thread is trolling. None of his IPs are in Minnesota, in fact, all of the IPs he has ever posted from are in one state, many states away from Minnesota.
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