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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2016 13:41:38 GMT -5
Raw did a 2.3, which indicates there isn't much excitement for the Brand Split. The slight uptick can be attributed to it being the night after a Pay-Per-View, which always draws extra eyes. In comparison, the Raw after Money in the Bank last month did a 2.4, so, they couldn't even hit that level, and Battleground was a much better show. In other words, the people who are watching Raw are watching Raw and that's not likely to change. At least the show is getting better for those who are still watching. Raw does SHlT cause maybe 1-2 mil DVR/Hulu/YouTube/Network it
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jul 27, 2016 14:38:25 GMT -5
Finn isn't an underdog, except for being against Reigns, where everyone is an underdog. Back to the point, Finn Balor is one of the most protected dudes in the last few years. He lost only a few matches in NXT, which makes him anything but an underdog. But this isn't NXT. Everyone is adding his NXT run into the mix. If you simply look at last night like I did then he was a clear underdog being against Roman. Some people don't even count tag teaming on the main roster, let alone NXT runs. Before WrestleMania 31, Reigns "hadn't been around long enough for a title shot on a major PPV." Lol. I wonder how people who said that feel about Finn Balor getting the SummerSlam match. For me personally, I don't place arbitrary "must be on the show this many months or no title shot" rules, or only allow title shots to wrestlers with enough internet points etc. For me, I have seen Reigns vs Rollins more than enough times already. Don't need to see it again for a long time. I haven't seen Balor vs Rollins before, so that's a much more exciting matchup. And I'm not convinced that Finn has the goods yet, but hell, Raw is severely lacking in the main event scene. They've got Reigns and Rollins. Lesnar on occasion. Jericho, Owens, Zayn kinda there. So bringing in a fresh face right at the top was very much needed. Much better than Finn going 50/50 with Cesaro and Neville forever.
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Post by J12 on Jul 27, 2016 15:18:53 GMT -5
Raw did a 2.3, which indicates there isn't much excitement for the Brand Split. The slight uptick can be attributed to it being the night after a Pay-Per-View, which always draws extra eyes. In comparison, the Raw after Money in the Bank last month did a 2.4, so, they couldn't even hit that level, and Battleground was a much better show. In other words, the people who are watching Raw are watching Raw and that's not likely to change. At least the show is getting better for those who are still watching. Raw does SHlT cause maybe 1-2 mil DVR/Hulu/YouTube/Network it DVR numbers get counted in at a later date as long as they watch within 7 days. It's a fair amount of people, but it's nowhere near the 1-2 million mark. People watching 30 days later on the Network does nothing to help WWE, numbers wise. Those numbers mean nothing. It's highly unlikely any of those people are subscribing to the Network for first-run TV replays. We don't have Hulu numbers, and YouTube is just clips. WWE has a fantastic YouTube presence, but that's virtually irrelevant when it comes to TV deals. The problem here is not exposure. It's unique viewers via the avenues that matter. The fewer people that are watching on USA Network, the harder it is for WWE to justify to NBCUniversal that their contract is worth renewing at anything close to the deal they got a couple of years ago. Without that deal, WWE has a plethora of problems from a business perspective. The point I'm illustrating here is that the entire purpose of the Brand Split was to generate a ratings increase, and in the first week, it failed. That doesn't mean it will continue to fail, but it's not a good sign. The hope here, of course, is that a whole bunch of people see clips/results from this week's show and say, "oh man, that sounds great, I've got to tune in next week." That's a reasonable expectation for the time being. If it happens, WWE has to ensure they put on consistently entertaining shows so that those people coming back don't say, "well, it was a one time thing" and go right back to consuming wrestling the way they were before.
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Post by honeybear 619 on Jul 27, 2016 15:57:10 GMT -5
Was that a botch when When Charlotte couldn't superplex Sasha and she landed on the ropes?
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 27, 2016 18:14:13 GMT -5
But this isn't NXT. Everyone is adding his NXT run into the mix. If you simply look at last night like I did then he was a clear underdog being against Roman. Some people don't even count tag teaming on the main roster, let alone NXT runs. Before WrestleMania 31, Reigns "hadn't been around long enough for a title shot on a major PPV." Lol. I wonder how people who said that feel about Finn Balor getting the SummerSlam match. For me personally, I don't place arbitrary "must be on the show this many months or no title shot" rules, or only allow title shots to wrestlers with enough internet points etc. For me, I have seen Reigns vs Rollins more than enough times already. Don't need to see it again for a long time. I haven't seen Balor vs Rollins before, so that's a much more exciting matchup. And I'm not convinced that Finn has the goods yet, but hell, Raw is severely lacking in the main event scene. They've got Reigns and Rollins. Lesnar on occasion. Jericho, Owens, Zayn kinda there. So bringing in a fresh face right at the top was very much needed. Much better than Finn going 50/50 with Cesaro and Neville forever. Finn has proven himself all over the world during the past decade that he's a main event player. Roman was a failed footballer who had a cup of coffee in NXT before main eventing his first WM a little over two years later (and had a total of 2 PPV 1v1 matches by that point).
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jul 27, 2016 18:29:39 GMT -5
Some people don't even count tag teaming on the main roster, let alone NXT runs. Before WrestleMania 31, Reigns "hadn't been around long enough for a title shot on a major PPV." Lol. I wonder how people who said that feel about Finn Balor getting the SummerSlam match. For me personally, I don't place arbitrary "must be on the show this many months or no title shot" rules, or only allow title shots to wrestlers with enough internet points etc. For me, I have seen Reigns vs Rollins more than enough times already. Don't need to see it again for a long time. I haven't seen Balor vs Rollins before, so that's a much more exciting matchup. And I'm not convinced that Finn has the goods yet, but hell, Raw is severely lacking in the main event scene. They've got Reigns and Rollins. Lesnar on occasion. Jericho, Owens, Zayn kinda there. So bringing in a fresh face right at the top was very much needed. Much better than Finn going 50/50 with Cesaro and Neville forever. Finn has proven himself all over the world during the past decade that he's a main event player. Roman was a failed footballer who had a cup of coffee in NXT before main eventing his first WM a little over two years later (and had a total of 2 PPV 1v1 matches by that point). So Finn wasn't an underdog on Raw after all?
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Post by Chip on Jul 27, 2016 19:22:00 GMT -5
With the new camera, where's Chip to discuss? wait....there's a new camera? what did i miss?
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Post by Chip on Jul 27, 2016 19:22:39 GMT -5
you're welcome for the amazing RAW every RAW i have missed the last 5 years has been awesome. i was away at a lake house until tonight. all i know are RAW & Smackdown results, I have no idea what is going on
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Post by Chip on Jul 27, 2016 19:26:40 GMT -5
As far as the title names go, I wish they just has the RAW WWE champion & The SD WWE Champion. RAW's would look the same except I'd put RAW plates on the side. SD's would look the same but with blue in place of the red and SD logos on the side. I googled it and someone apparently already thought of it. Something like this for the front... The benefit to that is the major champions look appear to be equals. This is the best idea ever for the Brand Split. Which is why it didn't happen.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jul 27, 2016 19:46:13 GMT -5
With the new camera, where's Chip to discuss? wait....there's a new camera? what did i miss? Yeah. Can't confirm, but the quality was almost perfect for any kind of any event so either they got even better cameras or with the whole new stage and crap a whole new audio visual setup was integrated in the system too, one or the other.
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Post by East Coast on Jul 27, 2016 20:17:10 GMT -5
you're welcome for the amazing RAW every RAW i have missed the last 5 years has been awesome. i was away at a lake house until tonight. all i know are RAW & Smackdown results, I have no idea what is going on
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Post by J-MANN: Tag Team Champion on Jul 28, 2016 8:09:23 GMT -5
One of my buddies was telling me he thinks the club will interfere at SummerSlam and help Balor win the title. What do you guys think about that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 8:52:37 GMT -5
One of my buddies was telling me he thinks the club will interfere at SummerSlam and help Balor win the title. What do you guys think about that? I think that's very plausible.
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Post by J-MANN: Tag Team Champion on Jul 28, 2016 9:03:49 GMT -5
One of my buddies was telling me he thinks the club will interfere at SummerSlam and help Balor win the title. What do you guys think about that? I think that's very plausible. I really hope that doesn't happen. I want Seth to be the very first Universial Champion. And right now, I don't want Finn to turn heel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 9:06:54 GMT -5
I think that's very plausible. I really hope that doesn't happen. I want Seth to be the very first Universial Champion. And right now, I don't want Finn to turn heel. I want Seth to win too. However, I would not be unhappy if Finn won. Fan of both.
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Post by J12 on Jul 28, 2016 10:08:23 GMT -5
I don't see Finn joining up with Gallows and Anderson. They're too weak on the babyface side at the top of the card on Raw. That's more than likely why they hotshotted Finn the way they did. Roman is the only main event level babyface, and he's not a babyface.
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Post by Chip on Jul 28, 2016 11:52:22 GMT -5
yea they need to keep Finn far FAR FAAAARRRR away from any kind of "heel faction leader" role
Finn Balor has the tools to be the #1 star in the company. No joking. Making him a heel leading 2 guys around and doing heel things is not going to get him anywhere. He needs to be able to showcase his talents and the fans will eat it up. There is nothing they need to do with him but let him wrestle, let him be him, and let him win matches without being 50/50 booked into mediocrity
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Post by James St. James on Jul 29, 2016 22:37:24 GMT -5
Was that a botch when When Charlotte couldn't superplex Sasha and she landed on the ropes? No it was the setup for the moonsault to the outside.
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