Cody Rhodes Diva
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Post by Cody Rhodes Diva on Jul 27, 2016 22:28:39 GMT -5
Source: WrestlingInc Former ECW announcer Joey Styles recently took part in a Facebook Q&A, as seen above. During the interview, Cathy Kelley asked Styles why WWE continued to push Roman Reigns as a babyface. "Bottom line is, if our chairman thinks he sees a future star as a babyface, that's how things are gonna play out," Style replied. But the answer is Vince thinks it can work. He's been right much, much, much, much, much more than wrong over the course of the last 40 years. I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna second-guess the chairman." When Kelley noted that her female friends love Reigns, Styles replied, "That's part of it: Moms are the ones who bring kids to shows. Kids like Roman Reigns. Moms like Roman Reigns. That's the reason. Just because some people boo him doesn't mean everyone doesn't like him."
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Post by J12 on Jul 27, 2016 22:37:26 GMT -5
With all respect to Joey Styles, he's not gonna convince me this is one of the instances where Vince isn't wrong.
Vince saw a lot in The Rock, too, but when the crowd rejected him and chanted " Die, Rocky, Die", Vince did the right thing. As a result, The Rock became one of the biggest stars in pro wrestling history.
Roman Reigns is a star. He's just not the star they want him to be. The metrics show that, and I'd be willing to bet the recent wellness violation changed the opinion of some of those moms and kids. The only thing they're doing now is hurting Roman's long term potential.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 28, 2016 0:19:16 GMT -5
If Roman turned heel, came out with a suit and tie on, and the sun glasses, and gloated that he really was the chosen one by the WWE and there was nothing the fans could do about it, it would make him a bona fide star!
But Reigns coming out, and getting booed like crazy, and the WWE chooses to ignore it, it just seems pointless and in the long run is gonna hurt Roman more than help him.
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Post by ICW on Jul 28, 2016 0:48:25 GMT -5
I think Reigns has all the potential in the world to be the top baby face but things have gotten completely out of hand. You need to bring someone to their lowest of lows in order to build them up and make them even stronger. Simply shoving someone down everyone's throats isn't affective. People are resentful.
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Post by Cameron Stone on Jul 28, 2016 0:57:40 GMT -5
I do think they should turn him heel. He could be the biggest heel in the company right now. He's also a good worker in the ring, despite what some say. I actually think he's a better worker than Ambrose. Not as good as Rollins, but still really solid.
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Post by Mox on Jul 28, 2016 0:58:40 GMT -5
I think Reigns has all the potential in the world to be the top baby face but things have gotten completely out of hand. You need to bring someone to their lowest of lows in order to build them up and make them even stronger. Simply shoving someone down everyone's throats isn't affective. People are resentful. You nailed it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 2:03:48 GMT -5
"Fans welcome to a night you'll never going to forget. We got THREE major matches signed up for the card tonight at the Summerslam stream. First off, we got the main event as THE INNOVATOR OF VIOLENCE: John Cena? TAKES ON THE QUEEN OF EXTREME: Daniel Bryan? THEN WE GOT A BATTLE OF THE BEAUTY'S, AS THE MAN WHO CALLS IT RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE THE BEAST FROM THE EAST: CM Punk? Takes on the FIRST LADY OF EXTREME: Brock Lesnar? Also a match that can only be described as a genital herping, WE GOT the Wyatt Family from Dudleyville vs The HOMICIDAL GENOCIDAL THE Devil's favorite Bill Alfonso, Kane? WHO'S BEEN SCREWING WITH MY CARDS!?" - Dino Winwood as Joey Styles for SummerSlam 2013
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Post by Midnight on Jul 28, 2016 7:41:26 GMT -5
Well of course he's gonna say that, he works for WWE. Lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 7:54:56 GMT -5
With all respect to Joey Styles, he's not gonna convince me this is one of the instances where Vince isn't wrong. Vince saw a lot in The Rock, too, but when the crowd rejected him and chanted " Die, Rocky, Die", Vince did the right thing. As a result, The Rock became one of the biggest stars in pro wrestling history. Roman Reigns is a star. He's just not the star they want him to be. The metrics show that, and I'd be willing to bet the recent wellness violation changed the opinion of some of those moms and kids. The only thing they're doing now is hurting Roman's long term potential. Oh yeah the wellness violation completely changed my 9 year old cousin's opinion on Reigns. Roman used to be his favourite wrestler, and now after the violation he thinks Roman is bad person and his favourite is now Dean Ambrose. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 9:09:48 GMT -5
My issue is I have no reason to care for him. I can't relate to him, he's just another guy who's come from a football background and been handed everything.
He's not and won't ever be in the same boat as Cena and the Rock. He's just not a mega star. So why they booked him like they did until his suspension is ridiculous. The reason Cena got heat was because be would never lose clean, Roman wasn't losing clean or dirty to ANYONE, that's enough to piss even the most casual fan off.
It's WWE's fault, because yes he does have the look and the ability to be a big star, but he's not a face. Just turn him heel and watch him develop.
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Post by DeadlyGame on Jul 28, 2016 9:53:08 GMT -5
Styles is under contract for them.
That said, they've had opportunities to turn Roman heel and have not done it.
Vince does not know better than the fans. Remember that.
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Jul 28, 2016 10:48:34 GMT -5
The thing I dont like about Reigns is that hes mainly disliked but acts like he's not like c'mon snap back at the fans dont just smile at people hating you, that makes me hate him more. Its like you tell kids if someone is being mean to you just laugh them off, that just infuriates the bully (WWE universe / me) more...
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Post by marino13 on Jul 28, 2016 10:54:46 GMT -5
The thing is, Roman COULD be a huge baby-face beloved by millions. But the approach to get him there was fumbled. Problem is, WWE was in such dire need for a new top face, they rushed it and it blew up on them.
You have to prove you're the man. Fans love to watch a wrestler struggle. They love to watch the climb. If Daniel Bryan or Chris Benoit wouldn't have had to fight so hard to get to the top, then their moment wouldn't have meant nearly as much.
If you want to shoot someone straight to the top, then it's wise to so it as a heel. That way if there is resentment, it works to the benefit of the heel. Case in point is Brock Lesnar's first run. He was pushed as an evil juggernaut. But eventually the fans grew to respect him. Then the face turn was organic and it worked. Same thing happened to Austin. Rock. Orton. Batista. The fans will dictate when the time is right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2016 11:03:38 GMT -5
With all respect to Joey Styles, he's not gonna convince me this is one of the instances where Vince isn't wrong. Vince saw a lot in The Rock, too, but when the crowd rejected him and chanted " Die, Rocky, Die", Vince did the right thing. As a result, The Rock became one of the biggest stars in pro wrestling history. Roman Reigns is a star. He's just not the star they want him to be. The metrics show that, and I'd be willing to bet the recent wellness violation changed the opinion of some of those moms and kids. The only thing they're doing now is hurting Roman's long term potential. Oh yeah the wellness violation completely changed my 9 year old cousin's opinion on Reigns. Roman used to be his favourite wrestler, and now after the violation he thinks Roman is bad person and his favourite is now Dean Ambrose. I mean your cousin probably isn't aware, but its so ironic how Dean is his favorite after Romans wellness violation. Dean used to do a lot of seriously dangerous drugs lol. Don't take me seriously here, I'm just joking around. |
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Post by ZDB on Jul 28, 2016 11:41:04 GMT -5
Pretty sure Styles still works random stuff for them, doubt he'd bad mouth the boss
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REAL REVY
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Post by REAL REVY on Jul 28, 2016 23:25:21 GMT -5
chair completely changed Reigns. Roman used to be bad person and Dean Ambrose.Kelley noted that her female Styles Moms are the one. Mo
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Post by k5 on Jul 29, 2016 0:13:40 GMT -5
joey styles was always a company guy. represented ecw in the worst of times and did his best to keep it professional and promote the brand. if i had to guess, i'd say he's doing the same thing here. if joey ever gets released and we see a shoot interview, he may have some different words.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Jul 29, 2016 1:43:48 GMT -5
chair completely changed Reigns. Roman used to be bad person and Dean Ambrose.Kelley noted that her female Styles Moms are the one. Mo  |
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Post by cmiller79 on Jul 29, 2016 3:29:04 GMT -5
So what I got from that is Joey is a corporate suck ass
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 29, 2016 11:05:09 GMT -5
chair completely changed Reigns. Roman used to be bad person and Dean Ambrose.Kelley noted that her female Styles Moms are the one. Mo  |
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