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Post by weaseltv on Aug 13, 2016 18:18:23 GMT -5
doing a little exercise here to see wins/losses for some wrestlers to see what comes of it... I was looking at the Shinsuke/Samoa Joe match to compare them. overall career-wise wins/losses are very similar Samoa Joe - 502 wins (58.92%) - 35 draws (4.11%) - 315 losses (36.97%) Shinsuke Nakamura - 779 wins (58.62%) - 23 draws (1.73%) - 527 losses (39.65%) the difference is in NXT Samoa Joe - 64 wins (55.17%) - 3 draws (2.59%) - 49 losses (42.24%) Shinsuke Nakamura - 50 wins (96.15%) - 1 draws (1.92%) - 1 losses (1.92%) So, WWE is having Joe lose a little more than his career average and Nakamura is... unbeatable at the moment. so I'm look at other WWE guys now... | Wrestler | wins | draws | losses | | John Cena | 966 wins (77.97%) | 52 draws (4.20%) | 221 losses (17.84%) | | Bret Hart | 307 wins (68.22%) | 35 draws (7.78%) | 108 losses (24.00%) | | The Undertaker | 518 wins (67.80%) | 65 draws (8.51%) | 181 losses (23.69%) | | Shawn Michaels | 395 wins (67.29%) | 44 draws (7.50%) | 148 losses(25.21%) | | Neville | 367 wins (66.61%) | 7 draws (1.27%) | 177 losses (32.12%) | | Finn Balor | 585 wins (66.55%) | 6 draws (0.68%) | 288 losses (32.76%) | | Rob Van Dam | 734 wins (65.77%) | 45 draws (4.03%) | 337 losses (30.20%) | | Roman Reigns | 494 wins (65.52%) | 28 draws (3.71%) | 232 losses (30.77%) | | Sheamus | 690 wins (64.73%) | 35 draws (3.28%) | 341 losses (31.99%) | | Rey Mysterio | 587 wins (63.60%) | 36 draws (3.90%) | 300 losses (32.50%) | | Hulk Hogan | 264 wins (63.01%) | 36 draws (8.59%) | 119 losses (28.40%) | | Ryback | 547 wins (62.23%) | 15 draws (1.71%) | 317 losses (36.06%) | | Santino Marella | 337 wins (60.50%) | 6 draws (1.08%) | 214 losses (38.42%) | | Daniel Bryan | 767 wins (60.39%) | 49 draws (3.86%) | 454 losses (35.75%) | | CM Punk | 617 wins (59.79%) | 46 draws (4.46%) | 369 losses (35.76%) | | Dean Ambrose | 557 wins (58.82%) | 34 draws (3.59%) | 356 losses (37.59%) | | The Rock | 267 wins (58.42%) | 39 draws (8.53%) | 151 losses (33.04%) | | Steve Austin | 248 wins (57.14%) | 51 draws (11.75%) | 135 losses(31.11%) | | AJ Styles | 587 wins (56.88%) | 39 draws (3.78%) | 406 losses (39.34%) | | Randy Orton | 629 wins (55.47%) | 62 draws (5.47%) | 443 losses (39.07%) | | The Big Show | 856 wins (54.49%) | 88 draws (5.60%) | 627 losses (39.91%) | | Chris Jericho | 750 wins (52.85%) | 50 draws (3.52%) | 619 losses (43.62%) | | Triple H | 414 wins (51.75%) | 71 draws (8.88%) | 315 losses (39.38%) | | Edge | 408 wins (51.19%) | 44 draws (5.52%) | 345 losses (43.29%) | | Ric Flair | 279 wins (49.56%) | 35 draws (6.22%) | 249 losses (44.23%) | | Cesaro | 692 wins (49.25%) | 22 draws (1.57%) | 691 losses (49.18%) | | Kane | 812 wins (48.33%) | 85 draws (5.06%) | 783 losses (46.61%) | | Mick Foley | 197 wins (47.93%) | 41 draws (9.98%) | 173 losses (42.09%) | | Kevin Owens | 323 wins (47.22%) | 20 draws (2.92%) | 341 losses (49.85%) | | Dolph Ziggler | 574 wins (46.63%) | 23 draws (1.87%) | 634 losses (51.50%) | | Seth Rollins | 480 wins (43.13%) | 51 draws (4.58%) | 582 losses (52.29%) | | Cody Rhodes | 446 wins (39.75%) | 24 draws (2.14%) | 652 losses (58.11%) | | The Miz | 367 wins (33.98%) | 41 draws (3.80%) | 672 losses (62.22%) |
couple notes on this - interesting thing... Hogan in the end didn't have that high a win percentage... it took a while before I found people with a lower win percentage than Seth Rollins... top to bottom, there are good wrestlers, so win % really doesn't mean too much... John Cena's win percentage will probably go down the rest of his career... Kevin Owens win percentage in WWE is in the 20's ... |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 13, 2016 18:52:04 GMT -5
Very interesting read thanks for that.
Hard to believe that The Miz has lost more matches than he has won.
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Post by Infinite on Aug 13, 2016 19:06:25 GMT -5
The winrate of the top attitude era guys is interesting.
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Post by sitruC on Aug 13, 2016 19:57:56 GMT -5
All these numbers are just confusing for me, but I'm sure I'd find it interesting if I understood it.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Aug 13, 2016 20:06:34 GMT -5
All these numbers are just confusing for me, but I'm sure I'd find it interesting if I understood it. Adding spaces between each statistic or making a graph would help. Right now it's just a jumble of crap that my a.d.d-addled brain couldn't get through. |
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Post by marino13 on Aug 13, 2016 20:16:59 GMT -5
Triple H has 414 wins & 315 losses!? Not bad for a guy who supposedly refuses to lose.
Bret Hart has the least amount of loses. Even Hogan has lost more!!
Cena win/loss numbers are mind blowing!
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Post by Yayo on Aug 13, 2016 20:31:08 GMT -5
Who did Nakamura lose to in NXT?
Edit: also, Reigns must have lost a lot in developmental
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2016 20:45:17 GMT -5
Who did Nakamura lose to in NXT? I thought he was currently undefeated?
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Post by Gone. on Aug 13, 2016 20:55:28 GMT -5
Who did Nakamura lose to in NXT? Edit: also, Reigns must have lost a lot in developmental Battle Royale I assume. /edit/ Gzim Selmani & Samoa Joe & Sunny Dhinsa Def. (Sub) No Way Jose & Shinsuke Nakamura & Tino Sabbatelli 6-Person Tag |
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Post by grandmasterPRA on Aug 13, 2016 21:27:10 GMT -5
I did very similar research except I only unused televised one on one matches with a clean finish. You can't really include house shows cause most of them is just the faces winning everything. You can't include a lot of multiman matches cause a lot of the times the loser didn't take the pin. Also can't include dq cause that is wwes cop out from having someone get pinned. I actually found that Owens had a great win percentage last year. Reigns obviously did too. Ziggler and Ambrose lost a lot. Both around. 500.It's always interesting to read. The biggest evidence that wins don't matter? Reigns has lost several matches in a row AND GOT SUSPENDED yet he gets a US title shot cause Lana got cake on her face.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 13, 2016 21:48:41 GMT -5
Neville is being shoved down our throats!
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Post by weaseltv on Aug 13, 2016 22:40:06 GMT -5
All these numbers are just confusing for me, but I'm sure I'd find it interesting if I understood it. Adding spaces between each statistic or making a graph would help. Right now it's just a jumble of crap that my a.d.d-addled brain couldn't get through. I actually did space everything out... but in the post it removed all the extra spaces  i'm noticing the table thing though, i'll update it... |
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Post by weaseltv on Aug 13, 2016 22:57:57 GMT -5
Triple H has 414 wins & 315 losses!? Not bad for a guy who supposedly refuses to lose. Bret Hart has the least amount of loses. Even Hogan has lost more!! Cena win/loss numbers are mind blowing! to be fair though, Bret Hart didn't crack 500 matches. |
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Post by UltimateCollector78 on Aug 14, 2016 0:02:33 GMT -5
I am sure Warrior & Lesnar have a higher WWE wining percentage then Cena
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Post by Nathan from Aus on Aug 14, 2016 4:27:36 GMT -5
This thread "don't" matter
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2016 5:59:05 GMT -5
Where did you get these numbers? Because Bret has wrestled more matches than anyone else had for WWE. At least until a couple years ago, I don't know if Cena topped it since or something.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Aug 14, 2016 7:06:43 GMT -5
These numbers are without a doubt off. Even just counting televised matches from 85 on Bret has had more matches than that. Where did you get these numbers? Because Bret has wrestled more matches than anyone else had for WWE. At least until a couple years ago, I don't know if Cena topped it since or something. |
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Aug 14, 2016 8:25:35 GMT -5
Where did you get these numbers? Because Bret has wrestled more matches than anyone else had for WWE. At least until a couple years ago, I don't know if Cena topped it since or something. It's probably Profightdb, for some reason they only count televised stuff for (at least some of) the older wrestlers. I'd guess at least some of Undertaker, Kane, Big Show, Henry, Cena, Orton, HHH, Edge have had way more televised matches than Bret, simply because Bret's era was mostly when guys didn't wrestle every week on TV. |
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Post by k5 on Aug 14, 2016 8:41:57 GMT -5
how does aj styles already have that many wins/losses? they're counting his tna career? kinda silly.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Aug 14, 2016 12:49:26 GMT -5
Where did you get these numbers? Because Bret has wrestled more matches than anyone else had for WWE. At least until a couple years ago, I don't know if Cena topped it since or something. I was just gonna say the same thing! On the Bret vs. Shawn blu ray for the extras, Shawn asked Bret, "how many matches do you think you've had in your career??" and Bret said, "in wrestling, or just in WWE??" and Shawn said, "in wrestling" and Bret said, "Around 1000 or so. I remember a few years ago, someone did a chart and I believe I came right behind Bruno for WWE matches, so if you put my WCW stuff and my stuff for my father on that, I have had well over 1000 matches in my career." |
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