mutafan
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Post by mutafan on Aug 23, 2016 8:01:08 GMT -5
Brock is a monster in the ring one of the best ever, what is bad is they will put the belt on him and he jobs to people who are not in his league, still think he could have done randy a little different. also i dont like part time wrestlers if you wrestle then you should be there more than a pay per view here and there. he wont be back till royal rumble to me thats crap
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2016 8:03:52 GMT -5
I like Brock, but he's pretty stale now. Every Raw appearance is Heyman cutting the same promo, and then his matches are just suplex city crap. If he only wants to work twice a year, he should just go back to UFC full time.
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Infinite
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Post by Infinite on Aug 23, 2016 9:43:10 GMT -5
I'm kinda off the Brock train right now. The whole Orton feud and match was too similar to everything else he's been doing. The germans are just a crutch right now, and Heyman has nothing to sink his teeth into on the mic. Brock is simply lacking anything good to do at the moment.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Aug 23, 2016 22:00:29 GMT -5
Never been on
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 23, 2016 22:07:54 GMT -5
That ending at Summerslam was electric. No question that got wrestling fans from all over talking again, and you have to give Brock a ton of credit for walking that fine line so effortlessly. He was perfect.
The ending showed that he can still be a dynamic presence in the ring... I just wish it wasn't preceded by like 6 straight minutes of German suplexes and the requisite F5 kickout. Stuff like that bores me and pretty much confirms Ambrose's Wrestlemania criticism of him. Mix it up, big man!
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Post by Rude Awakening on Aug 23, 2016 22:09:02 GMT -5
That ending at Summerslam was electric. No question that got wrestling fans from all over talking again, and you have to give Brock a ton of credit for walking that fine line so effortlessly. He was perfect. The ending showed that he can still be a dynamic presence in the ring... I just wish it wasn't preceded by like 6 straight minutes of German suplexes and the requisite F5 kickout. Stuff like that bores me and pretty much confirms Ambrose's Wrestlemania criticism of him. Mix it up, big man! I agree, in the moment it seemed terrible, but turned out to be pretty good ending.
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Post by The American Daydream on Aug 23, 2016 22:27:46 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar has ALWAYS had the same style of wrestling. Hes a monster, a freak of nature. The next big thing. He's only bothered with going the extra mile in fueds against workers with big names like Undertaker, Triple H, Rock, Angle etc etc.
Love Lesnar and everything he's been doing lately. He's got great booking right now and someone eventually is going to get the best rub from beating him, no homo lol.
I'm glad he's crushing people and I'll never get off the Lesnar train. Although I do wish he would do a little more wrestling because we all know that he CAN. That does bother me when he has so much potential. That and the MMA attire is lame. He's better in trunks.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Aug 23, 2016 23:44:40 GMT -5
I always though the superkick was the most overused move in current wrestling. Brock single-handledly blew it out of the water with German Suplexes. My first choice to beat him would've been Harper on that Network exclusive show. There's a guy who could use the honor. They can go the outsmart/out-finesse Brock route and have a smaller guy beat him, but they kind of need a monster to do it to create a new monster. Please not Braun Strowman.
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alquelude
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Post by alquelude on Aug 25, 2016 9:59:08 GMT -5
It's not a trend or a bandwagon. His workrate has legitimately sucked ass for the past 2 years. The match last night made Orton look weak as hell in his first ppv match back. If anything last night potentially built a Shane vs Brock match, which is insanely stupid. It's all the morons chanting "suplex city" that play a factor into this mess as well. Nobody that comes out of a match with Brock comes out looking good. Ask Orton, Ambrose, Rollins, etc. The guy has steamrolled through everyone with no favors. A few years ago everyone said feuding with Cena was the kiss of death? Sh*t feuding with Brock makes you look like a weak b*tch. Brock is only doing business for Brock. He's milking this business for all that it's worth while putting in little to no effort, all while steamrolling through guys who deserve to be elevated. It's not a trend, or a bandwagon. The guy has legit sucked ass for the past 2 years. Oh and don't try bringing up the Taker matches from last year, it's Taker for the love of God, he's always going to have pull in the way he's booked in his matches. Not one of these guys is worse off for having worked with Brock. Ambrose is champ, Rollins prob will be next week, and orton had the match stopped on him, he didn't lose. And why should Brock wrestle like everyone else? He is his own entity, and his matches bring something different to the table. A couple different suplexes would be nice, but until Someone proves that they could beat him, why would he change his style? Still one of the only guys whose matches always have a big fight feel, and he has credibility that is nearly untouched. I'd rather watch Brock wrestle that a couple of cruiser weights doing nonsensical flips and high spots.
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hbkowns
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Post by hbkowns on Aug 25, 2016 11:06:50 GMT -5
It's not a trend or a bandwagon. His workrate has legitimately sucked ass for the past 2 years. The match last night made Orton look weak as hell in his first ppv match back. If anything last night potentially built a Shane vs Brock match, which is insanely stupid. It's all the morons chanting "suplex city" that play a factor into this mess as well. Nobody that comes out of a match with Brock comes out looking good. Ask Orton, Ambrose, Rollins, etc. The guy has steamrolled through everyone with no favors. A few years ago everyone said feuding with Cena was the kiss of death? Sh*t feuding with Brock makes you look like a weak b*tch. Brock is only doing business for Brock. He's milking this business for all that it's worth while putting in little to no effort, all while steamrolling through guys who deserve to be elevated. It's not a trend, or a bandwagon. The guy has legit sucked ass for the past 2 years. Oh and don't try bringing up the Taker matches from last year, it's Taker for the love of God, he's always going to have pull in the way he's booked in his matches. Not one of these guys is worse off for having worked with Brock. Ambrose is champ, Rollins prob will be next week, and orton had the match stopped on him, he didn't lose. And why should Brock wrestle like everyone else? He is his own entity, and his matches bring something different to the table. A couple different suplexes would be nice, but until Someone proves that they could beat him, why would he change his style? Still one of the only guys whose matches always have a big fight feel, and he has credibility that is nearly untouched. I'd rather watch Brock wrestle that a couple of cruiser weights doing nonsensical flips and high spots. You're acting as if those guys got those opportunities directly after or because of feuding with Brock. Ambrose was white-hot going into Wrestlemania, having feuded with Triple H and looking strong after it. Then he had a 13 minute glorified squash against Lesnar and was robbed of all of his momentum. He then won the title later that Summer when he was least interesting. Brock squashed his fire and that has nothing to do with his title reign right now. Rollins was going to lose after 8 minutes...then Taker came out and everyone forgot about it. That has nothing to do with his current main event status. Randy came back after a long time away due to injury. Orton had a resurgence of his character and seemed like he had new found life as a performer. Then gets his ass beat in 15 minutes in a one sided destruction. Brock is a momentum killer and none of the success that those guys attained are linked to any of the work they've done with Lesnar. And hey if you love 15 minutes of suplexes from a guy who shows up 4 times a year to wrestle and make someone look like crap, then that's your cup of tea.
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alquelude
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Post by alquelude on Aug 25, 2016 11:19:35 GMT -5
Not one of these guys is worse off for having worked with Brock. Ambrose is champ, Rollins prob will be next week, and orton had the match stopped on him, he didn't lose. And why should Brock wrestle like everyone else? He is his own entity, and his matches bring something different to the table. A couple different suplexes would be nice, but until Someone proves that they could beat him, why would he change his style? Still one of the only guys whose matches always have a big fight feel, and he has credibility that is nearly untouched. I'd rather watch Brock wrestle that a couple of cruiser weights doing nonsensical flips and high spots. You're acting as if those guys got those opportunities directly after or because of feuding with Brock. Ambrose was white-hot going into Wrestlemania, having feuded with Triple H and looking strong after it. Then he had a 13 minute glorified squash against Lesnar and was robbed of all of his momentum. He then won the title later that Summer when he was least interesting. Brock squashed his fire and that has nothing to do with his title reign right now. Rollins was going to lose after 8 minutes...then Taker came out and everyone forgot about it. That has nothing to do with his current main event status. Randy came back after a long time away due to injury. Orton had a resurgence of his character and seemed like he had new found life as a performer. Then gets his ass beat in 15 minutes in a one sided destruction. Brock is a momentum killer and none of the success that those guys attained are linked to any of the work they've done with Lesnar. And hey if you love 15 minutes of suplexes from a guy who shows up 4 times a year to wrestle and make someone look like crap, then that's your cup of tea. Let's not forget that Brock put over Seth Rollins huge in the royal rumble match where Rollins elbowed him through the table, and the stretcher was brought out for while lesnar sold an injury. That was arguably the biggest single moment that elevated Rollins to elite status. When someone finally slays the beast, it's going to make their career. Lesnar squashed Ambrose, but he hadn't won a fued for the entire year prior to that. Why should lesnar, after squashing cena, then lose to Ambrose? One problem is that they have run out of credible opponents to challenge Brock. I wouldn't be surprised if nakamura ends up being the one to beat him eventually. If you disagree, fine, but most people that I discuss wrestling with are intrigued nearly every time he fights.
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Jimmy Toucan (+ The Flipout)
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'They should just give us album of the year...right now.'
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Post by Jimmy Toucan (+ The Flipout) on Aug 25, 2016 19:28:13 GMT -5
I'm still a fan. I don't expect him to wow me with anything that really he shouldn't be doing, sure, Suplex City got over with the marketing of one simple line uttered at WM last year, but it it's fine with me.
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Post by Sizzle on Aug 26, 2016 16:31:29 GMT -5
I don't know. When's the next stop?
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Post by Rude Awakening on Aug 26, 2016 16:34:27 GMT -5
I don't know. When's the next stop? It appears to be The Royal Rumble.
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Post by YES! YES! YES! on Aug 26, 2016 16:40:40 GMT -5
I'm still riding. I don't think ANYONE brings the same intensity that Brock does, when his music hits, it's like "OH !" You know it's gonna go DOWN.
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Post by Rude Awakening on Aug 26, 2016 16:42:49 GMT -5
I'm still riding. I don't think ANYONE brings the same intensity that Brock does, when his music hits, it's like "OH !" You know it's gonna go DOWN. I am too. Brock has a job, go to the ring hit a bunch of suplexs/punches, play maybe 1/2 minutes of defense, win the match, and leave.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Aug 27, 2016 18:43:24 GMT -5
My thing is I'm tired of the suplex after suplex gig. It's repetitive and boring. The first time it was cool, then it just became stale. He needs to do something new, or use a new move or change his gear a bit.
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Post by Tim of thee on Aug 27, 2016 21:30:01 GMT -5
I'm ready for Powerbomb city
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Post by Ember's Flame on Aug 27, 2016 21:53:13 GMT -5
"Whose gonna be the guy to stop him?!?"
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Post by Tim of thee on Aug 27, 2016 21:55:56 GMT -5
"Whose gonna be the guy to stop him?!?" I 100% agree.
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