Infinite
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Post by Infinite on Aug 22, 2016 16:56:48 GMT -5
I'd be much more invested in the wristband thing if it wasn't John Cena. He's gonna be back and be the same and blah blah. The match was quite good, pretty typical WWE "big match" match.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 17:07:48 GMT -5
Apart from the initial Cena talking to much, the match was a classic.
He put AJ over as best as he could and I'm glad my dream match finally had the match that we all knew was possible.
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mosetter27
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Post by mosetter27 on Aug 22, 2016 17:08:00 GMT -5
My Son was upset that John Cena lost to AJ Styles at SummerSlam, as any member of the CeNation would feel. He was extremely pissed off that Cena left the way he did, because we have tickets to see Smackdown in Philly in September. He fears that he won't see Cena (pun intended) at my Son's first ever WWE Live event. he's still on the card... and jesus its his first event? D's been watching wrestling for a month and he'll have been to 3 by then lol
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Post by TheLastDude on Aug 22, 2016 17:20:25 GMT -5
He gave the ultimate rub to AJ. He sold for him, he put him over clean and he left looking genuinely defeated. I have a new found respect for him after last night. That's exactly what AJ Styles needed. Absolutely. I sort of viewed it as his way of saying that he left it all in the ring, and for one of the only times in his career, it wasn't enough. That's downright poetic. Part of me hopes this is what was really going on, because that's beautiful.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 22, 2016 17:50:01 GMT -5
He'll be back
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Post by specterkev on Aug 22, 2016 18:04:13 GMT -5
Cena lost his smile
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Post by Word™ on Aug 22, 2016 23:08:29 GMT -5
He gave the ultimate rub to AJ. He sold for him, he put him over clean and he left looking genuinely defeated. I have a new found respect for him after last night. That's exactly what AJ Styles needed. That's John Cena for you, and it always has been. He will go above and BEYOND for anyone in the business. He's used his popularity and pull backstage to help out younger wrestlers so many times that it baffles me at the people that claim to "hate" Cena. Honestly, people that claim to hate John Cena have no earthly idea what they're talking about.
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Post by ellisd on Aug 23, 2016 0:25:20 GMT -5
I sort of viewed it as his way of saying that he left it all in the ring, and for one of the only times in his career, it wasn't enough. There were no bells and whistles, no interference, no cheating, he was just straight up beat by a guy who said he was better than him. I thought the commentary team did a great job of speculating what was going on in Cena's head after AJ kicked out of the top rope AA. The notion that Cena was seeing himself in Styles in that moment - the guy that can take absolutely everything you've got and still survive - was really special. In that moment, Cena realized he couldn't beat Styles. It was great. I like to think of this feud as the best storytelling WWE has done in a while. It wasn't convoluted. It wasn't over something dumb. It was about who can beat who, even though one was heel. And the matches told the story too. This is the first time where a slowburn really paid off. You had AJ "beat" Cena in Round 1. At that point Cena knew he needed to pull out all the stops to beat AJ. In Round 2, he busts out a top rope AA which puts AJ away. In Round 3, you have AJ going alone (when he hasn't beat Cena by himself) going up against Cena, who busts out a sunset bomb, his girlfriend's TKO, and can't put him away. When he uses the one move that he knows beat Styles in the past, and only gets a 2 count,he's shocked. He literally used every move in his arsenal and still couldn't put him away. The fans ate it up too. We know that there'd be a few false finishes, but we also knew that the top rope AA had worked before. When he missed the first time, we figured that was just a false finish, but then when he moments later was able to hit it again, and quick cover Styles, the fact that Styles kicked out not only blew Cena's mind, but blew the audience's as well. The two stories going on here were brilliantly portrayed by these two. Great way to sum this feud up. If I hadn't watched it unfold, I definitely would after reading this set up.
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Post by Nathan from Aus on Aug 23, 2016 0:28:23 GMT -5
Lmao but he was in the Raw dark match
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Post by Darkhawk on Aug 23, 2016 0:39:49 GMT -5
The match last night was the "Dream Match" we all have been waiting to see, glad Cena put over AJ Styles. It's a great way to tell a story, cuz now the story is whether Cena can even beat Styles at all.
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Post by weaseltv on Aug 23, 2016 0:54:06 GMT -5
I sort of viewed it as his way of saying that he left it all in the ring, and for one of the only times in his career, it wasn't enough. There were no bells and whistles, no interference, no cheating, he was just straight up beat by a guy who said he was better than him. I thought the commentary team did a great job of speculating what was going on in Cena's head after AJ kicked out of the top rope AA. The notion that Cena was seeing himself in Styles in that moment - the guy that can take absolutely everything you've got and still survive - was really special. In that moment, Cena realized he couldn't beat Styles. It was great. I like to think of this feud as the best storytelling WWE has done in a while. It wasn't convoluted. It wasn't over something dumb. It was about who can beat who, even though one was heel. And the matches told the story too. This is the first time where a slowburn really paid off. You had AJ "beat" Cena in Round 1. At that point Cena knew he needed to pull out all the stops to beat AJ. In Round 2, he busts out a top rope AA which puts AJ away. In Round 3, you have AJ going alone (when he hasn't beat Cena by himself) going up against Cena, who busts out a sunset bomb, his girlfriend's TKO, and can't put him away. When he uses the one move that he knows beat Styles in the past, and only gets a 2 count,he's shocked. He literally used every move in his arsenal and still couldn't put him away. The fans ate it up too. We know that there'd be a few false finishes, but we also knew that the top rope AA had worked before. When he missed the first time, we figured that was just a false finish, but then when he moments later was able to hit it again, and quick cover Styles, the fact that Styles kicked out not only blew Cena's mind, but blew the audience's as well. The two stories going on here were brilliantly portrayed by these two. I just think it's interesting that you have 2 guys that are both 39 in a dream match up feud, one is a 15 time WWE champion, the other is a multi time TNA, NWA, IWGP, ROH champion, winning titles with 19 different companies. The storyline being, that if Styles was in the WWE for all of his 18 year career, he would be at the top and not Cena. That, wherever he went, and held a title, "that" company had the best wrestler in the business, not the WWE whenever Cena was champion. In other dream matchups, when Flair came to WWE and faced Hogan, it was Hogan who won most of their matches, when HHH faced Sting, Sting was already 56 years old. Styles winning a feud with Cena seems huge for wrestlers in other companies because it seems to legitimize them more... Which is a good thing... like how the guys from New Japan coming in and being very successful in NXT, I think it's good for the whole wrestling business as a whole.
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Post by KrimV on Aug 23, 2016 1:01:51 GMT -5
That's John Cena for you, and it always has been. He will go above and BEYOND for anyone in the business. He's used his popularity and pull backstage to help out younger wrestlers so many times that it baffles me at the people that claim to "hate" Cena. I can think of a lot of guys that didn't benefit much from a feud with Cena and ended up finding their progress set back for years. I was actually surprised that they let AJ beat him clean last night and surpass the "Cena Wall".
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Post by Word™ on Aug 23, 2016 1:08:10 GMT -5
That's John Cena for you, and it always has been. He will go above and BEYOND for anyone in the business. He's used his popularity and pull backstage to help out younger wrestlers so many times that it baffles me at the people that claim to "hate" Cena. I can think of a lot of guys that didn't benefit much from a feud with Cena and ended up finding their progress set back for years. I was actually surprised that they let AJ beat him clean last night and surpass the "Cena Wall". Which guys? I'm curious.
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Post by Dan on Aug 23, 2016 2:15:27 GMT -5
It was absolutely brilliant storytelling from Cena. Was slightly frustrated that the NY Crowd still boo'd him after the Match despite the fact he'd just put AJ over 100% clean.
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Post by KrimV on Aug 23, 2016 2:31:29 GMT -5
Bray Wyatt (remember the demon child thing?), Rusev (he became a comedy act after losing the US title to Cena), Kevin Owens (floundered around the midcard after losing to Cena at back to back PPVs and not taking the US title), and the entirety of the original Nexus (none of them are still in the WWE as active wrestlers save for Slater). It's a pretty rare occasion for Cena to lose clean to anyone. In recent memory, that is Kevin Owens (first match against Cena at Elimination Chamber 2015), Daniel Bryan (Summerslam 2013), and now AJ Styles.
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Post by tg11 on Aug 23, 2016 20:34:02 GMT -5
Whether you love or hate him you have to respet Cena
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Post by J'Dinkalage Morgoone on Aug 23, 2016 22:20:49 GMT -5
watch, AJ will win the belt, and then here comes roody poo john cena to win the title
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Post by alquelude on Aug 25, 2016 10:40:31 GMT -5
Bray Wyatt (remember the demon child thing?), Rusev (he became a comedy act after losing the US title to Cena), Kevin Owens (floundered around the midcard after losing to Cena at back to back PPVs and not taking the US title), and the entirety of the original Nexus (none of them are still in the WWE as active wrestlers save for Slater). It's a pretty rare occasion for Cena to lose clean to anyone. In recent memory, that is Kevin Owens (first match against Cena at Elimination Chamber 2015), Daniel Bryan (Summerslam 2013), and now AJ Styles. The thing is, if you have cena lose in these fueds, aj winning would not have meant as much. Unless someone is going to be one of your top 5 superstars going foward, there is no reason to put him over the top guy for the past decade plus. Dbry, Brock, and now aj were cemented as top level main eventers after beating cena. Bray, rusev, and ko were not going to be that. And even then, feuding with cena put the spotlight on them, got them some great pay days, and showed that they could step into the main event, even if they were in the Midcard after their fued. I'm sure not one of those guys regrets being put in a program with cena.
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Post by k5 on Aug 25, 2016 10:47:07 GMT -5
now if only creative had been so open minded years ago, cena's career wouldn't have been spent playing superman in mostly forgettable feuds with few exceptions.
his feuds with punk, owens and now aj have all been top shelf quality.
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Post by KrimV on Aug 27, 2016 4:37:24 GMT -5
The thing is, if you have cena lose in these fueds, aj winning would not have meant as much. Unless someone is going to be one of your top 5 superstars going foward, there is no reason to put him over the top guy for the past decade plus. Dbry, Brock, and now aj were cemented as top level main eventers after beating cena. Bray, rusev, and ko were not going to be that. And even then, feuding with cena put the spotlight on them, got them some great pay days, and showed that they could step into the main event, even if they were in the Midcard after their fued. I'm sure not one of those guys regrets being put in a program with cena. At that time, they were trying to build the Wyatt Family into monster heels. Taking down Cena would've been a major step to solidifying them as the biggest threat in the WWE not named The Authority. However, the ridiculous lengths they went to in order to unnecessarily protect Cena stalled the Wyatt's momentum and they really didn't reach those heights again.
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