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Post by PJ on Sept 20, 2016 21:18:31 GMT -5
I don't watch either show live anymore. I might flip them on during commercial breaks on shows I watch or watch the opening segments but for the most part now I watch them the following morning. I will say this though swap Enzo, Cass along with Primo and Diego for Orton, Styles, Wyatt and Becky and I wouldn't have to watch SD again. I might miss Miz, but that would be a small price.
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Post by sitruC on Sept 20, 2016 21:44:43 GMT -5
I dunno if it counts but 2007 was the hardest year I've ever watched, not for it being boring though due to the obvious thing what happened.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2016 23:20:38 GMT -5
Gotta make dat AD revenue.
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Post by hbkjason on Sept 21, 2016 1:59:36 GMT -5
As bad as this sounds, after the Shawn Michaels vs Chris Jericho fued. Pretty much everything just rolls into one for me now with one show blending into the next and then the next and so on. I can be entertained as I watch WWE, but there is very few things that are memorable or stick with me. To be fair though I am sure a huge part of that is just me getting older
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Post by Escape The Rules on Sept 21, 2016 6:22:04 GMT -5
2006-2009 absolutely sucked for the most part. Probably the worst era in my time as a fan.
And from the Raw after WrestleMania 32 right up until the Draft, the entire product was absolutely insufferable.
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Post by ThugSuperstar on Sept 21, 2016 12:18:56 GMT -5
With the exception of a handful of truly memorable moments (Bryan winning at WM30, CM Punk, Lesnar returning, The Rock returning, NXT, etc.), I'd say a majority of the last 8-10 years have been forgettable. I'm sure a part of that is me naturally getting older and finding things far more interesting than wrestling, but there are still instances that take me back to being a kid again that are just far from the norm.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Sept 23, 2016 6:48:24 GMT -5
I just watch the quick hit highlights on the website.
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Post by @AnHonorablePod on Sept 25, 2016 18:43:02 GMT -5
5 star matches? Huh?!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2016 19:06:44 GMT -5
yeah they dont mean anything if theres no stories.
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Post by @AnHonorablePod on Sept 25, 2016 21:58:46 GMT -5
yeah they dont mean anything if theres no stories. You completely missed my point. There aren't any 5 star matches from WWE in many years. Not only that, it is possible to have said 5 star level match with no story, the match in itself is a story.
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Post by Darkhawk on Sept 25, 2016 22:39:19 GMT -5
I don't have cable anymore so I just read the results online now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2016 0:50:51 GMT -5
yeah they dont mean anything if theres no stories. You completely missed my point. There aren't any 5 star matches from WWE in many years. Not only that, it is possible to have said 5 star level match with no story, the match in itself is a story. oh thats what you meant. and no 2 guys that just hate each other like sami zayn and kevin owens for example is not a story. now triple h putting a bounty on goldberg now thats a story! and you actually care to watch the match. but most indy fans dont care and are on the edges of their seats just watching 2 guys fight for no reason, which wwe caters to now.
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Post by The Constable on Sept 26, 2016 1:18:38 GMT -5
Well ever since I stopped paying for cable I just watch it a day after on Hulu and the Hulu version is a 1hr 30 min version of just the PPV build up stuff
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Post by @AnHonorablePod on Sept 26, 2016 19:18:43 GMT -5
You completely missed my point. There aren't any 5 star matches from WWE in many years. Not only that, it is possible to have said 5 star level match with no story, the match in itself is a story. oh thats what you meant. and no 2 guys that just hate each other like sami zayn and kevin owens for example is not a story. now triple h putting a bounty on goldberg now thats a story! and you actually care to watch the match. but most indy fans dont care and are on the edges of their seats just watching 2 guys fight for no reason, which wwe caters to now. This may be the single most ignorant message board post of all time. Had you watched any NXT, you know the 3rd brand, you'd know exactly why Sami and Kevin hate each other. Or, the fact the announcers explained why they hate each other, Sami won the NXT Title and signed with WWE before Kevin and Kevin was jealous. Either way, you clearly don't pay attention to the product that you care so much about. I'll also address your comment on indy fans. As someone who has attended indy wrestling shows across the USA and worked for one prominent indy company from 2003-2012(on the business side) I can't even begin to tell you how completely clueless you are about this business and what is and isn't a story. In addition to that, wrestling is a very simple concept to explain, it's a battle of good versus evil. If you haven't figured out that's what all these "stories" break down to, then stop watching and go read a book.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2016 0:58:21 GMT -5
oh thats what you meant. and no 2 guys that just hate each other like sami zayn and kevin owens for example is not a story. now triple h putting a bounty on goldberg now thats a story! and you actually care to watch the match. but most indy fans dont care and are on the edges of their seats just watching 2 guys fight for no reason, which wwe caters to now. This may be the single most ignorant message board post of all time. Had you watched any NXT, you know the 3rd brand, you'd know exactly why Sami and Kevin hate each other. Or, the fact the announcers explained why they hate each other, Sami won the NXT Title and signed with WWE before Kevin and Kevin was jealous. Either way, you clearly don't pay attention to the product that you care so much about. I'll also address your comment on indy fans. As someone who has attended indy wrestling shows across the USA and worked for one prominent indy company from 2003-2012(on the business side) I can't even begin to tell you how completely clueless you are about this business and what is and isn't a story. In addition to that, wrestling is a very simple concept to explain, it's a battle of good versus evil. If you haven't figured out that's what all these "stories" break down to, then stop watching and go read a book. dont watch nxt. but what a interesting and compelling rivalry and story "one got jealous because he signed before him now hes mad" but like i said previously wwe dosent care because the fans like that and they are like "oh well you know what they are enjoying this so lets not put anything that requires effort" thats why folks ratings are dipping in the 1.8 now and if it goes lower than that then wwe will probably be dead within the next 2 years when usa network decides to drop them just like what spike did with tna.
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Post by IRS on Sept 27, 2016 3:26:53 GMT -5
You completely missed my point. There aren't any 5 star matches from WWE in many years. Not only that, it is possible to have said 5 star level match with no story, the match in itself is a story. oh thats what you meant. and no 2 guys that just hate each other like sami zayn and kevin owens for example is not a story. now triple h putting a bounty on goldberg now thats a story! and you actually care to watch the match. but most indy fans dont care and are on the edges of their seats just watching 2 guys fight for no reason, which wwe caters to now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2016 4:40:39 GMT -5
oh thats what you meant. and no 2 guys that just hate each other like sami zayn and kevin owens for example is not a story. now triple h putting a bounty on goldberg now thats a story! and you actually care to watch the match. but most indy fans dont care and are on the edges of their seats just watching 2 guys fight for no reason, which wwe caters to now. well to me its not
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Post by IRS on Sept 27, 2016 5:10:34 GMT -5
well to me its not They were best friends for over a decade, and Owens threw it all away because he was bitter that his friend found success before he did. He ruined Sami's crowning moment in NXT by attacking him on the night he won the NXT Title, then took the title from Sami by beating him so bad in the match he couldn't continue. Sami then came up to the main roster to gain revenge against KO. ... I fail to see how that's not a story.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2016 5:24:13 GMT -5
well to me its not They were best friends for over a decade, and Owens threw it all away because he was bitter that his friend found success before he did. He ruined Sami's crowning moment in NXT by attacking him on the night he won the NXT Title, then took the title from Sami by beating him so bad in the match he couldn't continue. Sami then came up to the main roster to gain revenge against KO. ... I fail to see how that's not a story. yeah, it is, but its sh11ty. it's still all the same to me "this guy wants his title back" or "this guy wants revenge"
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