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Post by dollarbill04 on Oct 20, 2016 6:11:22 GMT -5
Massachusetts suffers with you all. Targets are bleak, no HoF 3 and no Heenan Family. I saw the Dusty Ring once. Wal-Mart has been rough, just TNF basics, none of the Elites. Saw the Bearer series once, sans Neville. TRU has been hit or miss. They seem to keep up with the Network Spotlight series and Defining Moments, but are stuck on E41. Meanwhile, at Walgreens, everything I seek I find. Just cleared out E42, got my Marvel Legends Punisher and Namor. Hell, yesterday I saw they got a few of the new Doctor Strange series. Walgreens is killing it lately. How is this possible?
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Post by Word™ on Oct 20, 2016 6:11:33 GMT -5
My Wal-Mart has had the same wave of WWE figures since March-April with only 1 or 2 updated waves since..
I don't shop stores for WWE anymore.. I haven't done that in a long long time.
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Post by dollarbill04 on Oct 20, 2016 6:16:21 GMT -5
My Wal-Mart has had the same wave of WWE figures since March-April with only 1 or 2 updated waves since.. I don't shop stores for WWE anymore.. I haven't done that in a long long time. I hear ya, guy. I used to love "The Hunt". Now it's just, "When are these figures gonna be off pre-order on Ringside?" Or, "Time to check Amazon". It's tough out there.
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Post by 'Exotic' Adrian Street on Oct 20, 2016 7:00:11 GMT -5
You guys know that instead of making these threads, you can search out the stores corporate numbers and make complaints or ask questions and try to actually get something done? Let's start there. I made the thread because - it's a wrestling figure forum - it's a HUGE issue that affects most people on this board - was trying to ask a legitimate question to people who may know a hell of a lot more than me about how retail works and/or their thought process - doing this without putting down the product or specific shelf warmers, to try and avoid needless arguments But I have a proposition for you. Instead of your usual snarky smart ass comments, post what you would say to corporate regarding this situation, and I will give it a shot.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 7:14:50 GMT -5
You guys know that instead of making these threads, you can search out the stores corporate numbers and make complaints or ask questions and try to actually get something done? Let's start there. I made the thread because - it's a wrestling figure forum - it's a HUGE issue that affects most people on this board - was trying to ask a legitimate question to people who may know a hell of a lot more than me about how retail works and/or their thought process - doing this without putting down the product or specific shelf warmers, to try and avoid needless arguments But I have a proposition for you. Instead of your usual snarky smart ass comments, post what you would say to corporate regarding this situation, and I will give it a shot. I have a proposition for you as well, don't be snarky back as an attempt to reprimand me? That'd be p cool. Why do you need me to tell you what to say? Just call the stores and tell them what you said in your first post. The whole point of my post was to move the conversation in a direction of actually getting something done, so its just not another complaint thread with pages of agreeing. It was an attempt to get people to actually do something, get the ball rolling.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 7:20:20 GMT -5
You guys know that instead of making these threads, you can search out the stores corporate numbers and make complaints or ask questions and try to actually get something done? Let's start there. What shall everyone talk about then dude? Lets talk about nothing... in a Mattel Wrestling forum.
The other day I went to the nothing toy store. They had nothing on offer. And nothing in stock. So I bought nothing. The quality control was nothing. And the manners of the staff were nothing.
I travelled home with nothing. And then came on here to talk about nothing.
Don't forget, be a nothing poster, and make another nothing post. As someone who is in the United Kingdom, are you really jumping at the chance to talk to everyone about U.S. distribution problems? Thank god we have you around to add to that then. You know, shame on me right? I tried to move the topic somewhere that actually helps get figures in peoples hands, but if you want I'll make sure I shut everyone down if they try that. This way we can keep these distribution threads going since they're the only thread topics possible around here and it will keep you happy. Wouldn't want to see threads of people talking about what they bought, that might get your knickers in a twist.
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Post by maske2g on Oct 20, 2016 7:38:15 GMT -5
What shall everyone talk about then dude? Lets talk about nothing... in a Mattel Wrestling forum.
The other day I went to the nothing toy store. They had nothing on offer. And nothing in stock. So I bought nothing. The quality control was nothing. And the manners of the staff were nothing.
I travelled home with nothing. And then came on here to talk about nothing.
Don't forget, be a nothing poster, and make another nothing post. As someone who is in the United Kingdom, are you really jumping at the chance to talk to everyone about U.S. distribution problems? Thank god we have you around to add to that then. You know, shame on me right? I tried to move the topic somewhere that actually helps get figures in peoples hands, but if you want I'll make sure I shut everyone down if they try that. This way we can keep these distribution threads going since they're the only thread topics possible around here and it will keep you happy. Wouldn't want to see threads of people talking about what they bought, that might get your knickers in a twist. A huge % of your posts that I see are moaning at other peoples posts. Pot calls kettle black.
As for the sweeping, you are not from here point , I BET I have bought wrestling toys in more US states than 90% of American Wrestling figure fans. I would stake big money on it.
The forum has been extremely quiet lately. Probably because talking has almost become an offence.
You do have a valid point though. Somebody should call out a company. Maybe get to the head of distribution on LinkedIn.
I did something to Toys R US UK, because they used old stock photos for new figures, and never said what series a figure was in. Now they use the photo and the series of the actual figure they are selling. I doubt I was the cause, but every little helps.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 8:02:05 GMT -5
Don't forget, be a nothing poster, and make another nothing post. As someone who is in the United Kingdom, are you really jumping at the chance to talk to everyone about U.S. distribution problems? Thank god we have you around to add to that then. You know, shame on me right? I tried to move the topic somewhere that actually helps get figures in peoples hands, but if you want I'll make sure I shut everyone down if they try that. This way we can keep these distribution threads going since they're the only thread topics possible around here and it will keep you happy. Wouldn't want to see threads of people talking about what they bought, that might get your knickers in a twist. A huge % of your posts that I see are moaning at other peoples posts. Pot calls kettle black.
As for the sweeping, you are not from here point , I BET I have bought wrestling toys in more US states than 90% of American Wrestling figure fans. I would stake big money on it.
The forum has been extremely quiet lately. Probably because talking has almost become an offence.
You do have a valid point though. Somebody should call out a company. Maybe get to the head of distribution on LinkedIn.
I did something to Toys R US UK, because they used old stock photos for new figures, and never said what series a figure was in. Now they use the photo and the series of the actual figure they are selling. I doubt I was the cause, but every little helps.
Unfortunately a huge % of my posts aren't moaning at other people posts, sorry kettle. More jokes, or attempt at jokes than anything else. The argument presented is about being able to walk into a brick & mortar store and buy figures. I get that you're trying to say that since you buy from a bunch of states often enough that it helps you, but that wasn't the point. Its about people here being able to walk into stores and get what they want and not rely on mail order. People here want to be able to walk into a store and have it look like a typical Smyths. Give it nine days and the forum wont be so quiet. We always hit quiet spots around here between big reveals. We're going to have a big set of reveals at Ringside Fest (hopefully) and then we'll start seeing posts about new waves of exclusive figures and then get excited on the next Ringside exclusive. We should fill these quiet spots with quality, not quantity.
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Post by maske2g on Oct 20, 2016 8:11:36 GMT -5
Unfortunately a huge % of my posts aren't moaning at other people posts, sorry kettle. More jokes, or attempt at jokes than anything else. The argument presented is about being able to walk into a brick & mortar store and buy figures. I get that you're trying to say that since you buy from a bunch of states often enough that it helps you, but that wasn't the point. Its about people here being able to walk into stores and get what they want and not rely on mail order. People here want to be able to walk into a store and have it look like a typical Smyths. Give it nine days and the forum wont be so quiet. We always hit quiet spots around here between big reveals. We're going to have a big set of reveals at Ringside Fest (hopefully) and then we'll start seeing posts about new waves of exclusive figures and then get excited on the next Ringside exclusive. We should fill these quiet spots with quality, not quantity. They are going to be constantly disappointed. In tiny towns, where figures aren't selling, stores aren't going to stock them. and who would blame them?
For some perspective, Texas is 3 times the size of the UK, and Smyths only have 80 stores across the whole UK. And they are almost all in or around MAJOR cities, or tightly packed densely populated areas.
Walmart and Target have over 8000 stores in America. They aren't going to sell what doesn't sell in all of them.
There you go, this has become a decent conversation!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 8:30:31 GMT -5
Unfortunately a huge % of my posts aren't moaning at other people posts, sorry kettle. More jokes, or attempt at jokes than anything else. The argument presented is about being able to walk into a brick & mortar store and buy figures. I get that you're trying to say that since you buy from a bunch of states often enough that it helps you, but that wasn't the point. Its about people here being able to walk into stores and get what they want and not rely on mail order. People here want to be able to walk into a store and have it look like a typical Smyths. Give it nine days and the forum wont be so quiet. We always hit quiet spots around here between big reveals. We're going to have a big set of reveals at Ringside Fest (hopefully) and then we'll start seeing posts about new waves of exclusive figures and then get excited on the next Ringside exclusive. We should fill these quiet spots with quality, not quantity. They are going to be constantly disappointed. In tiny towns, where figures aren't selling, stores aren't going to stock them. and who would blame them?
For some perspective, Texas is 3 times the size of the UK, and Smyths only have 80 stores across the whole UK. And they are almost all in or around MAJOR cities, or tightly packed densely populated areas.
Walmart and Target have over 8000 stores in America. They aren't going to sell what doesn't sell in all of them.
There you go, this has become a decent conversation!!! One thing I'd counter argue is the number of stores: For Wal-Mart corporate.walmart.com/our-story/our-locationsThey mention 4,629 stores. For Target - corporate.target.com/press/corporateThey mention 1,800 stores. Together that's only about 6,429 stores, so Smyth's isn't too far behind.
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Post by maske2g on Oct 20, 2016 8:36:09 GMT -5
They are going to be constantly disappointed. In tiny towns, where figures aren't selling, stores aren't going to stock them. and who would blame them?
For some perspective, Texas is 3 times the size of the UK, and Smyths only have 80 stores across the whole UK. And they are almost all in or around MAJOR cities, or tightly packed densely populated areas.
Walmart and Target have over 8000 stores in America. They aren't going to sell what doesn't sell in all of them.
There you go, this has become a decent conversation!!! One thing I'd counter argue is the number of stores: For Wal-Mart corporate.walmart.com/our-story/our-locationsThey mention 4,629 stores. For Target - corporate.target.com/press/corporateThey mention 1,800 stores. Together that's only about 6,429 stores, so Smyth's isn't too far behind. Yep, I looked at global numbers.
6429 vs 80.
Or a store for every 47000 people, vs a store in the uk for every 750,000 people. They need more because they are serving more.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 9:07:06 GMT -5
Yep, I looked at global numbers.
6429 vs 80.
Or a store for every 47000 people, vs a store in the uk for every 750,000 people. They need more because they are serving more. Goes back to my quality over quantity mention. Smyths has less and does more...far more. We should call these stores directly and strive to be like that.
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Post by maske2g on Oct 20, 2016 9:34:19 GMT -5
Yep, I looked at global numbers.
6429 vs 80.
Or a store for every 47000 people, vs a store in the uk for every 750,000 people. They need more because they are serving more. Goes back to my quality over quantity mention. Smyths has less and does more...far more. We should call these stores directly and strive to be like that. I don't get what you mean mate? Smyths has 750,000 people per store to tap into. They are going to sell more in the right areas. Smyths still distribute more to certain areas. My Locals in North East London have MUCH bigger action figure sections than a store just 9 miles south in Central London.
If you get a Walmart, in a town of say 40,000 people, and they haven't sold a figure from Elite 36 or something, they are going to say, "Wait a minute, why should we stock wrestling figureS? We don't sell enough. Lets fill those shelves with guns/reeces pieces/ twinkies/whatever."
It's also economies of scale. You get these single stores with 100 Warrior DM's on the shelf. But they are looking at the bottom line. They may have ordered an extra 10000 figures, and sold 5000 more than they do for an average Elite, they have made their moeny, the rrest is the cherry on top. But the customer doesn't see the bottom line, they see whats on the shelf. They don't have the capacity, and nor is it worth their while to micro manage every single product they sell. They look at WWE Elites - DONE. Not, the 4 Elite Rick Rudes that happen to be left in Arkensas..... they don't care. They are too big for that. As are Mattel.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Oct 20, 2016 9:48:53 GMT -5
DAMMMNN I feel for you guys. Muwahaha
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Oct 20, 2016 9:50:37 GMT -5
Amazon sells the figures individually and discounts them individually to control inventory. This works. Retailers sell them as an assortment and have no knowledge about which individual figures are holding up distribution. It just looks like poor sales for the line because retailers can't seem to push out the less desired figures to make way for the new assortments. Meanwhile people are finding the individual figures they want online and the online sites just discount the ones that aren't selling. Which is why each figure should have an individual stock code
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 9:57:03 GMT -5
Goes back to my quality over quantity mention. Smyths has less and does more...far more. We should call these stores directly and strive to be like that. I don't get what you mean mate? Smyths has 750,000 people per store to tap into. They are going to sell more in the right areas. Smyths still distribute more to certain areas. My Locals in North East London have MUCH bigger action figure sections than a store just 9 miles south in Central London.
If you get a Walmart, in a town of say 40,000 people, and they haven't sold a figure from Elite 36 or something, they are going to say, "Wait a minute, why should we stock wrestling figureS? We don't sell enough. Lets fill those shelves with guns/reeces pieces/ twinkies/whatever."
It's also economies of scale. You get these single stores with 100 Warrior DM's on the shelf. But they are looking at the bottom line. They may have ordered an extra 10000 figures, and sold 5000 more than they do for an average Elite, they have made their moeny, the rrest is the cherry on top. But the customer doesn't see the bottom line, they see whats on the shelf. They don't have the capacity, and nor is it worth their while to micro manage every single product they sell. They look at WWE Elites - DONE. Not, the 4 Elite Rick Rudes that happen to be left in Arkensas..... they don't care. They are too big for that. As are Mattel. Anything about me saying the numbers were close was just a joke, but like I said, Smyths does more with less. When I see a photo from Smyths, the pegs are all full, or close to it. When I see a photo from Target in the U.S., there are half full pegs or empty pegs. I get that Smyths is a toy store, and Target is a store that sells toys, but there should be no reason why Target can't take their section and always have it packed full. The trend seems to be, they get a decent shipment once, wait for it to die down and then get some weak filler, then have to wait until they're fully depleted before adding more. The feeling is that these stores have the habit of waiting until they're fully tapped dry before stocking. It seems like its a simple equation for these stores - figure out how much a store can sell and keep that constant. If the average Target can hold 50 Elites and 50 Basics, then make sure they always have that amount incoming. Not saying that when one sells, replace it with one product, but don't wait until you're down to half a case on the pegs of whatever figures are left and haven't restocked in three months before putting out one case. They have the space designated, so why not make sure its packed? Its not like the designated space can be used for something else like towels, or milk, its there already, utilize it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 10:06:20 GMT -5
It's just another sign of how far into the online age we are. Why are stores going to stock this stuff if a) people aren't going into bricks and mortar stores & b) are able to buy it cheaper online anyway And the other reason why a lot figures rot on the shelves, besides over production, over pricing and awful distribution, is this "waiting for clearance" mentality. This is my pet hate, I read it so often, "really love the figure, but I'll wait til it's in clearance" just buy the poxy thing, it's a few bucks ffs. I would never walk into a store, see something I want and think, oh I'll wait til it's reduced. Drop the online purchases, no offence ringside, and get your arses down to the stores and if you all did this from the start, there'd be no backlogs of old stock
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Post by powerfred3k on Oct 20, 2016 12:02:51 GMT -5
You guys know that instead of making these threads, you can search out the stores corporate numbers and make complaints or ask questions and try to actually get something done? Let's start there. Yes because that worked so well at flairs forever walmart. He showed weekly pics remember ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 12:25:45 GMT -5
You guys know that instead of making these threads, you can search out the stores corporate numbers and make complaints or ask questions and try to actually get something done? Let's start there. Yes because that worked so well at flairs forever walmart. He showed weekly pics remember ? Worked about as well as the multiple threads made here. Yes, I do remember them. I wasn't particularly fond of the updates, because if I remember correctly it was only at his store? And I was also regrettably unfair to Frank about it. Plus, if it was isolated to just his store in PA, how does that effect the several stores by me in NY? Or people in California? forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/310383/flair-forevers-mart-wars-anniversaryThough, the complaints of many will make a greater impact than the complaints of one. Plus, not just Wal-Mart, other stores too. If the general consensus around here is, let's not contact these stores because we won't or can't get anything done, then have at it and enjoy the complaints. No sweat off my back.
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Post by One Punch Reigns on Oct 20, 2016 13:25:24 GMT -5
Right now TRU or Walmart are my go-to places for retail. TRU is always on top of their game (Last I came there they had some E43 and the DM Cena) and Walmart's Elites sell well enough for new stock to come in regularly (Almost all of the TNF Elites are gone, save for two Rusevs and a Bam Bam)
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